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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,899 posts)
1. People have to be able to get to the air drop sites.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 10:46 PM
Oct 2017

They can't just drop stuff willy-nilly and expect people to be able to get to it. If the roads are impassible people won't be able to get the stuff when it hits the ground.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. i understand exactly what you meant. Multiple smaller drops where needed would go a long way to
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 10:50 PM
Oct 2017

easing the crisis.
One helicopter could make multiple drops to the small towns and even to isolated homes.

global1

(25,285 posts)
4. These Helicopters Could Also Drop Communication Devices....
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:02 PM
Oct 2017

like Sat Phones, Walkie Talkies, etc - devices that don't require an e grid or cell towers that have been destroyed by Maria. They need to know what the conditions and needs are in these communities that have been cut off by impassable roads. Then they can drop some supplies to these communities. We need to establish communications with these poor people.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
8. Sure. If it's airdropped, and folks are expecting it?
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:26 PM
Oct 2017

Glow sticks, activated. A little blue smoke and fluorescent flags. If it works in Denali Park? It'll work.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
5. They shouldn't drop supplies and water without a security detail accompanying it!
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:16 PM
Oct 2017

To drop food and water into an area with desperate people without armed security might just be an invitation for a food skirmish or having the biggest, strongest yahoo to take control of the supplies and perhaps hoard them...

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
10. I'm just saying, the desperate people might kill each other trying to take control
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:28 PM
Oct 2017

of whatever is airdropped if a well-armed security detail is around to control things... It's human nature and these folks have been doing without for several days!

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
7. Excuses, excuses for inadequacy.
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:24 PM
Oct 2017

You CAN put packs on dirt bikes/cross country bikes. I know. I've done it. You CAN do airdrops from drones. I've seen it. You CAN wear an adequate backpack on your own back and walk/hike to feed someone. I know, it's been a long time, but I've done it. The water is the toughest, it's heavy, but purification tablets help, and they fit anywhere. Not perfect, but you CAN get there.





Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
11. They deployed 1/12th as many helicopters to PR as they did to Haiti after earthquake
Sun Oct 1, 2017, 11:30 PM
Oct 2017

So technically, the solution is air drops. Yes. But the problem is one of throughput.

unc70

(6,121 posts)
13. They are doing helicopter and osprey deliveries
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 12:17 AM
Oct 2017

Certainly not enough, but they are finally starting to get a trickle of aid into the mountains. Also now have specialized trucks in theater able to go where regular trucks cannot. Big problem is that all the resources were not in pipeline even before PR was hit.

A contributing problem is that many of these resources were already busy in Texas and Florida and had to be resupplied and redeployed. There are still nowhere near enough men and materials in PR and the USVI.

onethatcares

(16,192 posts)
16. they don't drop generators out of C130s
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:15 AM
Oct 2017

into populated areas. Roads and runways are being cleared and C5s on up will be delivering supplies and have been for the past 4 days. It's just very hard to land those large planes on dirt roads.

This is not a movie set.

It takes a few days to set logistics and get personnel into theater of operations. There are also regs about using U.S. military personnel vs Reserves and National Guard. Once the logistics are set this will move fast, faster than the invasion of Iraq and entire tent cities will be set up with electric/water/sewerage treatment while the islands infrastructure begins to be rebuilt.



This is not a movie set.

DVRacer

(707 posts)
14. Amazon style delivery drones
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 01:55 AM
Oct 2017

I understand that some Spec-Ops units have some resupply drones capable of some surprising weight or so I have heard. The problem would be DARPA might not want them in the light of day. But if someone had access to the media and were able to ask the right people....

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