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Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 07:49 PM Sep 2017

Just walked out of "American Made," a revisionist anti-ClintonPOS

I knew it was revisionist bullshit and I would have to bite my tongue by ten minutes in: the Sandinistas were dirty commies who hated America and were revolting against their heavenly-appointed dictator (there was even a picture of Trujillo!) and somehow REAGAN WAS THE HERO OF IRAN/CONTRA.

Deep breaths...deep breaths...

And then the action switched to Mena, Arkansas, setting of literally hundreds of insane crackpot theories over the last twenty years, all of which are clearly invented to make a Democrat look bad. I still held it together. At least it was entertaining.

And then? Then they had Bill Clinton call on behalf of the drug smuggling gun runners.

I can find many, many reasons to bad mouth either/both Clintons. There's no need to go making up shit to slander them with. Millions of people are going to see this movie and think it's somehow based in reality, or relevant, and that's unacceptable. It slanders good people, minimizes the truly evil, and completely forgets the millions dead and ruined.

Don't ask me how it ended, because I walked out. Fuck that movie.

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Just walked out of "American Made," a revisionist anti-ClintonPOS (Original Post) Nevernose Sep 2017 OP
Apparently it ends well: Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #1
That is not my impression Nevernose Sep 2017 #2
Sure. But you watched 10? minutes and the reviewer watched the whole thing INCLUDING THE END. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #3
No, I watched 1:55 minutes Nevernose Sep 2017 #4
Thank you. I definitely will not see this movie, then. Glorfindel Sep 2017 #5
Thank you for this as well, husband kinda likes Tom Cruise........ a kennedy Sep 2017 #6
He's why I watched most of it Nevernose Sep 2017 #7

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
1. Apparently it ends well:
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 07:56 PM
Sep 2017
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/09/american-made-review/541359/ (emphasis added)

It’s been a while since Cruise made a movie this risky, but American Made is exactly that—it’s a story where Ronald Reagan ends up as the ultimate villain, and Pablo Escobar comes across as the most level-headed of Seal’s bosses.


earlier in the review:

The CIA eventually cottons on but allows the whole thing to continue, as long as Seal can smuggle back some guns for the Contras fighting in Nicaragua. Escobar tolerates that, as long as Seal can operate a whole fleet of cocaine planes to keep his product moving. On and on it goes, with both sides tacitly ignoring the other so that Seal can keep operating extralegally wherever he goes.

Liman and his screenwriter Gary Spinelli tell the tale with all the freewheeling charm required of a caper picture. But American Made never lets the audience forget just how shadily the CIA is behaving throughout, even though Seal is always along for the ride.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
2. That is not my impression
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 08:02 PM
Sep 2017

To be completely fair, Reagan is not mentioned much by name. And the CIA are filled with assholes. It still completely whitewashed history, rewrote it, and even according to the eeview managed to make Pablo Escobar look level-headed.

Which is also an indication that the reviewer either didn't see the movie, or didn't pay attention. A major plot point is that Escobar goes crazy and flees Columbia.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
3. Sure. But you watched 10? minutes and the reviewer watched the whole thing INCLUDING THE END.
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 08:03 PM
Sep 2017

"Reagan ends up the ultimate villain" means the movie did not start by posing him as a villain but ends that way.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
4. No, I watched 1:55 minutes
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 08:06 PM
Sep 2017

My wife is informing me of how stupid I am, though, for not watching the last five minutes. As I type.

Much of the movie, though, is still jingoistic ahistorical nonsense. And definitely included everything in Limbaugh's 1999 viral conspiracy emails.

a kennedy

(29,663 posts)
6. Thank you for this as well, husband kinda likes Tom Cruise........
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 08:24 PM
Sep 2017

not going to see this shot movie either.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
7. He's why I watched most of it
Sat Sep 30, 2017, 08:30 PM
Sep 2017

And although I should have stayed the last five minutes, according to both the reviewer mentioned above and my wife, it got to be really painful for someone like me. Politically attenuated and fairly historically informed.

Other than that, it was a decent flick. CCruise was excellent. Has he ever made a truly bad movie? Subpar, maybe, but I can't think of anything awful.

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