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Get out!: Lt General rains hell on Air Force Academy after racist messages were left on black cadets rooms
Elizabeth Preza
28 Sep 2017 at 18:50 ET
Lt. Gen. Jay B. Silveria, superintendent of the United States Air Force Academy (USAFA), addressed cadets on Thursday in a powerful speech about treating one another with dignity and respect after racial slurs were written outside five black Air Force cadet candidates dorm rooms.
One messagewhich was posted on Facebook by a young cadet candidates momread, go home n**ger.
An clear he was. In a speech Silveria gave to Air Force cadets Thursday, the general addressed the incident head-on; during the roughly 5-minute lecture, the superintendent resoundingly denounced racism, and demonstrated the kind of moral clarity one would expect from a leader.
If youre outraged by those words, then youre in the right place, Silveria said of the racist graffiti. That kind of behavior has no place at the prep school, it has no place at USAFA and it has no place in the United States Air Force.
You should be outraged not only as an airman, but as a human being, he added.
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https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/get-out-lt-general-rains-hell-on-air-force-academy-after-racist-messages-were-left-on-black-cadets-rooms/
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)malaise
(269,004 posts)Bravo Lt General
keithbvadu2
(36,809 posts)A sign of right wing super duper evangelical Christianity (the messages, not his speech)
whathehell
(29,067 posts)I don't know where you're getting that.
keithbvadu2
(36,809 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)and that would turn me off in a NY minute, but I don't see that as a source of racism.
keithbvadu2
(36,809 posts)The perps seemed to think it the thing to do with all that super duper Christianity.
Not necessarily a 'source' but a feeling by them that racism is ok.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)but one must be careful about making accusations on such a subjective basis. Anyone can have a "feeling" about anything.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Has to do with the personalities of the believers themselves. People around the planet, those who have choice of course, attend churches that tell them what they want to hear.
Interestingly, polls have shown that the people of Colorado Springs, in spite of the influx of right-wing Christian extremism, are overall less religious than most cities. Whether CS, with the Air Force Academy, is the hotbed of Christian dominionism plotting it's made out to be would require knowing what progress those groups have made, and their leaders aren't saying.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)brush
(53,778 posts)There's no hope for trump though.
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)nt
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,996 posts)Think Drumpf would have the cajones to say the same?
Leith
(7,809 posts)He's more of a fat Ken doll.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,996 posts)You're going to get reported for body shaming.
Leith
(7,809 posts)I'm sorry, Ken.
keithbvadu2
(36,809 posts)Kaleva
(36,304 posts)And several of the people who wrote those messages are good folks.
mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)He would say, many sides do it.
onetexan
(13,041 posts)it needs to be nipped in the bud.
CanonRay
(14,103 posts)As the honor code requires. Bet they turn out to be Evangelicals. Fucking cowards.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)What I know about the military and about military academies could be engraved on the head of a pin with room to spare. But don't the service academies have a strict honor code that requires the person who did this to come forward voluntarily? After the General's dressing down, none of these gutless racists had the nerve to step forward. They better hope none of their comrades turn them in.
SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)And it would require the person that did it to step forward, and also anyone that knew about who did it to speak up.
When I was in the USAF there was a sort of hierarchy of respect among us enlisted for the officers. At that time, being an Academy graduate actually meant something, and they received a lot more respect as a butterbars 2nd lieutenant than someone that got a commission right out of college. (The most respected were those that had risen up through the enlisted ranks prior to getting a degree and commission, with the Academy grads behind them, then the frat boys.)
With the complete takeover of the Academy by the evangelicals, the level of respect that used to be exhibited has fallen.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I appreciate the information from someone who's been there.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I'm angered and embarrassed that my branch of the service is being permeated with the influence of the Evangelicals!
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)As an officer, it's a bit more difficult to hide those kinds of character flaws over the course of an entire career. Eventually they will slip up and find themselves on the outside looking in.
spanone
(135,838 posts)Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)that the behavior would not be tolerated, and what he expected.
DoubleAgentOrange
(81 posts)That's what happens when you put Roy and Boy Moore in charge.
ecstatic
(32,705 posts)past the racism thing. I'm not painting a broad brush, I don't think the majority of them are like that. I'm just saying I had higher hopes for future generations.
burrowowl
(17,641 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,768 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Trump makes being a Racist normal. Diversity is bad in Trump's America.
Bluepinky
(2,270 posts)waltben
(31 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)hibbing
(10,098 posts)I don't know anything about this guy but damn, that was straight fire. His comments could be applied to the current part time resident of the White House. You need to get out!
Peace
iluvtennis
(19,861 posts)the military overall doesn't tolerate racism - all kinds of regulations against. But, do people in military fell that way, of course as they are just a microcosm of our society overall. The thing with the military is that if you feel that way, you have to zip it up and keep it to yourself.
And I agree with the General that is they feel that way, they need to leave the military. The military is all about command structure, if you balk at someone's orders cause of racism, then it can break the whole system of command structure.
niyad
(113,315 posts)to be tossed out of there. and to address the sexism.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)JoeStuckInOH
(544 posts)I'm not condoning these racist sentiments in any way, and it's especially heinous to be put into in someone's living quarters. But for any of you service members on here that has been to the sandbox, you all know what I mean. Every shitter in every FOB/COP/Airbase in Afghanistan/Iraq is literally PLASTERED with racist, homophobic, sexual, or downright disturbing messages and drawings.
I think it's mostly the consequence of making sure every 17 & 18 year old PFC/FNG is equipped with a sharpie at all times... "Hey, I'm stuck here on the toilet for the next several minutes and no one can see what I'm up to. Let me write some fucked-up shit on the walls to pass the time..."
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)That's how to put racists and other bigots in their place!
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Near as I can tell, this was not at the Academy per sea, but actually at an associated "prep school", which I take as some sort of remedial school for folks who actually have not yet been accepted to the Academy itself .
That said, I know nothing of the man speaking, but he was at least very clear. And he seemed to understand his audience. I particularly like the "take out your cell phones" bit. Nothing like delivering a message in a form that will be obtained and remembered.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Sadly today it has a home in the commander-in-chiefs oval office at the White House though.
Mustellus
(328 posts)... within a half an hour, I got an email from the Chief of Staff of the Air Force:
"Air Force Chief of Staff David Goldfein said that he and Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson wanted to "emphasize that all Airmen will be treated with dignity and respect as we work through the potential policy changes" proposed by the president."
(Well, everybody got the email. I still work for them.) That's about as close to "f u" as a senior officer can come.
The current status is its under study, and any found critical to the national defense will get to continue to serve. I suspect, in 6 months or so, it will be quietly announced that all our trans Patriot brothers and sisters are critical to the national defense....
smiles... as much as I can in the current situation.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Air Force Academy finds cadet candidate responsible for racist messages
An Air Force Academy cadet candidate once thought the victim of racial slurs at the preparatory school on campus was actually the vandal who scrawled the threatening messages across the note boards outside his room and the dwellings of classmates.
The academy confirmed that finding Tuesday afternoon, and stood by a stern speech given by its top general in the wake of the incident. Lt. Gen. Jay Silveria gathered cadets and staff members for a speech that has gone viral in videos posted across the internet. He said that those who can't respect others "need to get out."
"Regardless of the circumstances under which those words were written, they were written, and that deserved to be addressed," Silveria said in a Tuesday email. "You can never over-emphasize the need for a culture of dignity and respect - and those who don't understand those concepts, aren't welcome here."