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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe ENTIRE Dallas Cowboys team with Jerry Jones just took a knee
So much for the "fired" meme going around.
They got back up for the anthem.
WOW.
Croney
(4,671 posts)it's not the same. Drumpf will be gloating.
Skittles
(153,197 posts)freedom to stand, freedom to kneel
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)... but to get noticed and get the message out. The Cowboys definitely got noticed.
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grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)It seems they took a stand/knee against injustice. That is what this is all about. It isn't about the Anthem.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)It's no longer about "taking a knee" and staying on it for the entire national anthem.
Getting on knee and getting back up is a show of solidarity for people who want to take a knee.
It also sends a direct signal to Trump.
If he gloats, he has nothing to gloat about.
madokie
(51,076 posts)We're stronger than the killer cops who it is that caused this to be to begin with.
I have utmost respect for our brothers and sister LEO but they have to realize that we're all HUMAN. We're not just black, we're not just white, we're HUMAN first and foremost
onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)Johonny
(20,890 posts)You think these NFL owners want the US president hurting their business and tell them who to hire and fire? He just lost Jerry Jones, OMG!
JCMach1
(27,574 posts)If you are Trump and you lose Kraft and Jones, you are done.
GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,585 posts)Looked like TV camera the guy was carrying.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Fir the unelected Orange Nazi. But now...Jerry Jones? ???
mercuryblues
(14,543 posts)just bit the hand that fed him. Most owners are republican. trump went after their income.
George II
(67,782 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)exboyfil
(17,865 posts)but this is masterfully played. Somehow you need to take away the binary of Trump vs. kneeling. I have always thought it was counterproductive, but did not get bent either way about it. I have friends, some of them liberal, who are angry about kneeling during the National Anthem. Those friends have served in our military (along with several of my conservative friends who are also angry about it).
Jones could follow up with a large contribution to a PAC lobbying for changing the procedures related to investigating LEO shootings. Also scholarships for disadvantaged African Americans etc.
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)spooky3
(34,483 posts)Ilsa
(61,698 posts)tavernier
(12,406 posts)essentially said the same thing on Facebook and all her friends whom she served with answered back in agreement.
pandr32
(11,617 posts)It would be a huge blow to this administration.
Maynar
(769 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)then they are full of shit.
I have a family member who is in this category and it is very troubling.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,470 posts)marybourg
(12,637 posts)pre-game demonstrations by his players. Does anybody walk around transcribing every word he said, so that it can be proven that he never used the word "fired" in that context? Probably not. So at worst, possible hyperbole.
BannonsLiver
(16,470 posts)They take something with a kernel of truth to it and then distort it into something that gets the clickety clicks and fires up their mouth breathing base. The facts are he never said anything remotely like what has been circulating on my Facebook feed today.
davsand
(13,421 posts)Oh--and Texas and Florida are still cleaning up from Cat 4 and 5 hurricanes. At least the GOP attack on our national health care system might be halted temporarily.
But, yeah, let's keep talking about who stood up, who knelt, and where their hands were for that couple of minutes before a sporting event. I have no freaking idea how the rotting mango can think this is worth talking about.
SMDH.
Laura
thbobby
(1,474 posts)Football is a game.
The situations you mention are life and death. I am from Texas and love the cowboys, but human life is important. Football is a game.
spooky3
(34,483 posts)It's all about pandering to his deplorables and providing a distracting from his complete inability to deal with the real problems you identified, and his Russia connections.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)and it is every bit as important as natural disasters and the stolen election.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)NON-LINEAR WARFARE.
davsand
(13,421 posts)What amazes hell outta me is the huge amount of shit raining down all around us, and all he could manage to be upset about--or even really notice--was what position football players took for a couple of minutes prior to a sporting event. The fundamental issue of cops killing black people then walking free completely eluded him. The fact that we had (still have) other brown skinned or Spanish speaking Americans fighting to survive was nothing he could recognize.
THAT was what my comment was about.
Laura
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Apologies if it sounded like I did.
I just meant that all that is going on is.. intentional disruption of democracy in America..
We also need to remember that we are in a war and the other guys are engaging in what is called NON-LINEAR WARFARE.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/hidden-author-putinism-russia-vladislav-surkov/382489/
I have been posting variations on the these points below all week and think we really need to see or remember that something else is going on ...
...............
It doesn't matter, in a way, what it is each day, or what happens tomorrow.( Of course it MATTERS.) But there is a reason for what is happening.)
It goes much deeper than that...
It is NON-LINEAR WARFARE.
PR, POC, immigrants, NFL, library books, grocery store selling diapers on the wrong day.. nothing matters to the enemy in this battle... EXCEPT disruption... disruption of society. disruption of government.
It is intended to be too much for a person to absorb... exhausting, distraction-- THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT. Confusion, get people to just give up.
It is a tactic to bring down western democracy!!
Well, WE WON"T GIVE UP.
We need to deal with the day to day insanity, but at the same time, and maybe even MORE importantly, keep our eyes focused on the big picture of what is happening..
Vladislav Surkov, Alexander Dugin- look them up.. plus Putin and Bannon and others..
GP6971
(31,220 posts)tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)eom
George II
(67,782 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,405 posts)pissed off. People who were posting on fb how great it was that Jones was going to make sure every player
stood for the national anthem.
George II
(67,782 posts)Of all the demonstrations I've seen this weekend, I think that one was the most impressive.
Dr. Strange
(25,925 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Dr. Strange
(25,925 posts)I have much more class than that. I'm a Broncos fan!
LudwigPastorius
(9,178 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,176 posts)Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Kneeling for the press, but standing for the National Anthem, every other team in every other sport will be doing this. The Cowboys may have just saved America
Fluke a Snooker
(404 posts)Most GOP nazis are crying because the NFL was one of their last places they could escape the dystopia that their policies cause all over the planet. Now that we have successfully taken over their precious 'MURICA!! moment, we will now start to implement policies that will take them out for good.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Gothmog
(145,619 posts)TlalocW
(15,392 posts)And they were leaving the field, one of the Cowboys patted Tony Romo too hard on the back, and he collapsed. He'll be out for three games.
I don't even follow sports, but I know enough snarky jokes to get under my Cowboys-fan brother's skin.
TlalocW
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Tony Romo retired, he's a sport announcer now.
TlalocW
(15,392 posts)I don't follow sports.
TlalocW
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)...But He Seems Pretty Good At Reading A Defense ...From The Booth.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Did you see that the Redscabs are looking to recruit Troy Aikman? LOL
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and his team of star-brandishing hooligans, you know Trump has made 2017 the most surreal year in American history... I have no doubt that 2018 will bring UFOs or some other crazy shit.
mickmten
(13 posts)Why do we play the anthem before each and every formal sporting event in this country? I can see why we do that for something like the Olympics that has a nationalistic theme, but for football, baseball and all the rest?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Iggo
(47,571 posts)Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)The initial act offended many and got a lot of attention. Kap stood his ground and clearly stated what he was protesting. Now the offense is taken away and they are acts of solidarity behind the true issue.