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[murielm99]

1. I agree with your opinion.

Thank you for posting, even if this gets removed. At least a few people here will see it.

[Tavarious Jackson]

3. Thank you.

I think it needs to be said, it needs to be heard. In my opinion this was willfully throwing a wrench at ACA. It's his M.O

[Eyeball_Kid]

2. I don't buy it. Sometimes there isn't a conspiracy.

Other Dems were talking up a Single Payer/Medicare For All bill several weeks ago. Sanders isn't soloing on this. They all surmised that the repeal was dead. And it was, and likely still is. In the end, the GOP isn't going in on this. They'll do the same political calculations that they did with prior versions. They know that the US public will bury them if they actually vote to intentionally decrease the nation's quality of life. They're going to have to forego the fear that they might be primaried and do what's right. If GOPers are too lazy to defend themselves against a primary opponent, they probably shouldn't be in the political arena in the first place.

Sanders is right, and he's got a right to say what he wants. His listeners also can use discretion in deciding whether or not Sanders' statements resonate with them.

[Tavarious Jackson]

4. He has the right to say what he wants as does Hillary and as do I.

Sanders is a smart man, a political man, he knows exactly what he is doing. You know, Hillary is accused of not taking responsibility for her loss a lot. Sanders blames DWS, DNC. Rigged system, superdeleagtes, and everyone else. Not once have I heard him take responsibility for his loss. Why the double standard?

[murielm99]

5. Other Democrats have endorsed this because it

is politically expedient. They know that hanging on to the ACA and improving it is our best choice. That is doing what is right.

Yes, his listeners can use discretion and they can state their disagreement with him if they choose. Democratic members of Congress are not being given that same choice. Democrats who do not endorse his ideas have been threatened with primaries. That is wrong and divisive.

[pnwmom]

24. The difference is that he made his big announcement on the same day that the Rethugs

announced their repeal bill --- and immediately people were distracted by discussions of single payer and away from discussions of how to save the ACA.

You have a lot more confidence in the GOP than most of us do. They are extremely close to passing this. They only need either Ron Paul or Lisa Murkowski to change their minds and we're toast.

And they figure by the time the worst stuff kicks in, none of their constituents will remember that it was their votes that got us into the ensuing mess.

[lunamagica]

6. K&R.

[sheshe2]

7. K&R

[shanny]

8. oh ffs

A"Leninist".

[jalan48]

10. I had to laugh at this one too. What's next, "Comrade Bernie"?

[Wellstone ruled]

9. This was the GOP

Senate Leadership's October Surprise. Single Payer has been gaining Signatures for over a month. And the GOP big money donors like the Koch Brothers,Walton's,and others wanted their Anti Obama Legislation passed before October,remember,any Tax cuts dealing with retro activity to 12/31/2016 are in major jeopardy and the Billionaire Class want their pound of flesh.

You spend a few hundred Million electing a band of Grifter's,you need your dividend.

[melman]

11. lol

Calling him a Leninist and comparing him to Steve Fucking Bannon. And the post stays.


And to think people actually try to deny there's a double standard.

[Tavarious Jackson]

13. It's my opinion.

I stated it as such. Yes, I do think he has wanted to destroy and cause chaos more than he ever tried to accomplish meaningful change. These are my thoughts. People can disagree or agree. I'm going by what I have seen from him through the years

[melman]

15. Not sure what your point is

And it seems you've missed mine.

The point was that this OP, were it about anyone else, would have been instantly removed.

But because it's about who it's about...it stays. And people pretend there's no double standard.

[dogman]

12. Surrender Democrats!

You might upset the GOP?

[Tavarious Jackson]

14. No.

Strategic politics. C'mon.. You think we're going to get single payer right now? When GOP is in full control?

[dogman]

17. I think that if we surrender because they are in power, we are doomed to failure.

We need to inspire people to our cause, Bernie does that quite well. People here used to admire speaking truth to power. Submitting to their will will enhance their power. Resist!

[Tavarious Jackson]

20. I think I am speaking truth to power.

I am not submitting to anyone. I am talking about timing and how a seasoned politician knows what he is doing.

[safeinOhio]

18. I'd guess we are, right now the

closest we've ever been. Thanks to the Repub plan.

Just my view.

[Tavarious Jackson]

21. I do too.. and I believe the American people also believe that

I just disagree with Bernie's way of getting there. I believe incremental change is the only way of getting there in this climate

[betsuni]

16. K&R

[tonedevil]

22. It's a conspiracy /nt

[Tavarious Jackson]

23. It's reality IMO.

No conspiracy here. He has on other occasions admitted to wanting to take votes from Dems.