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(34,661 posts)Waiting for info on Detroit,Milwaukee,and other Cities in the so Rust Belt. Stories of Electronic Manipulation just are not going away,when Time decides to publish this means we are beyond smoke,we have a smoking gun.
diva77
(7,659 posts)Hopefully Dems will not concede elections so easily in "losses" by a small margin, especially where legitimate polls are out of whack with election results...
Elections officials must be pressured to decertify all computerized voting & tabulating and return to hand counted paper ballots at precinct level. And voter purges by contractors such as Crosscheck must be stopped and voters put back on the rolls immediately.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)no matter how messy a campaign gets,if the Voters become disillusioned,it's all over and we enter the reign of a Dictatorship.
It is all about the Integrity of the System. And we are at that critical spot in our Nations Dialogue as to where we go. The Republican Party is following the lead of the Koch Brothers,Bob Mercer,and Rupert Murdoch. They have always wanted a Republican Majority know matter what it takes.
Example being Nunes and his obstruction,Lindsey Graham and his revival of the ACA repeal in order to save McConnell's sorry ass,and the last item on Thursday's House Agenda doing a Budget from hell.
It still is all about trust and that is being stretched damn thin at this date.
byronius
(7,401 posts)Much deeper than it looks. And a clear warning signal for all True Americans, by which I mean people who like Democracy.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Oh right. Not a goddamn thing. Thanks a-holes.
gtar100
(4,192 posts)We knew about all this plus the actual changing of votes long ago. Just reference the work of Greg Palast.
Buyer's remorse is my guess.
BigmanPigman
(51,635 posts)should nullify and void the entire election.
We knew that social media was being used to influence voters too. Between Comey releasing unnecessary info right before the election, wikileaks favoring 45, and MSM giving his campaign unlimited free publicity as well as not questioning and challenging GOP liars affiliated with the campaign all contributed to the win.
If the parties were reversed, the Dems would all be on their way to jail and the election would be awarded to the GOP. They are lying, cheating sociopaths as well as the definition of corruption and treason.
We should have all the election results erased, including Congress and state and city results since people vote down ballot. Obama could substitute until Hillary can assume office and somehow stop all actions in Congress and roll back all actions to the beginning of the Congressional calendar year and the true members of Congress who should've easily won assume their rightful positions. This would include getting rid of Gorsuch too.
I obviously know this has never been done and there is no precedent for it, but our country will have to do it to ensure the validity of our democracy in the future.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,045 posts)SunSeeker
(51,726 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Plus, when will everyone realize that this is the kind of crime that leaves no real trace. Stealing elections isn't like robbing a museum, there is no blank spot on the wall where the million dollar painting was hanging. To extend the analogy, it is as if someone hung a fraudulent copy there -- Donald Trump, the fraudulent copy of a President.
diva77
(7,659 posts)I am still waiting for elections officials, bound by oath of office and ethics of their professional organizations, to speak up and reject computerized voting & tabulation on the basis that the machines do NOT meet the burden of proof that every vote is guaranteed to be counted as cast.
DK504
(3,847 posts)The M$M pretend to be acting in the publics best interest when they continue to play the game of "what will play to the circus attendees."
renate
(13,776 posts)... we would all still be talking about this 24/7. It would have been a bombshell to the idea of our democracy.
Instead, the wrong people are angry about it, and we're all so overwhelmed with everything else that's going on that this is just old news.
haveahart
(905 posts)data. Most states, especially the red states rejected the offer.
Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)the current fed government getting involved in Oregon elections, which are some of the cleanest in the nation. I don't have a good answer.
malaise
(269,187 posts)Truth will out
Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)only the illegitimate actions of republican TreasonWeasels in collusion with evil-empire** russian money mobsters allowed them to steal the election from the American people and to continue to wage ACTS OF WAR*** against the USA.
* republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
** per ronald reagan
*** per all 17 US Intelligence Agencies and even dick freaking cheney.
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)not to mention creating evidence for the voting fraud scam.
niyad
(113,585 posts)Rene
(1,183 posts)explain how I think they stole the actual votes...... the 1% in each electoral college win state. They can contact me and I'll describe the server situation.
Pugster
(229 posts)Were they rectified AFTER the elections?