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2016 Election hackers altered voter rolls, stole private information (Time.com) (Original Post) Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 OP
Just the tip of the theft berg. Wellstone ruled Sep 2017 #1
+1000 This. Yes, "just the tip of the theft berg" diva77 Sep 2017 #3
Most Politicians will tell you this, Wellstone ruled Sep 2017 #11
Agree. There is a natural reticence to report on this issue: 'voter confidence'. byronius Sep 2017 #8
and congress is doing WHAT now to ensure we have free and fair elections in the future? flibbitygiblets Sep 2017 #2
Why is it the MSM are always the last to know. Thought their job was to dig up the facts. gtar100 Sep 2017 #4
Agree...we DID all know about this and other major factors which BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #7
Boom. Also: From June. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #5
So it is. I had mistakenly thought it was current because of a tweet that refered to this. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #24
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #6
Not even the tip of the iceberg yet. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #9
A crime that is so obvious, yet repugs get away with it EVERY time because it's hard to prove. diva77 Sep 2017 #18
This keeps getting reported and keeps getting treated as rumor. DK504 Sep 2017 #10
I really believe that if Democrats had won the House, Senate, and presidency, renate Sep 2017 #12
Obama administration offered help to states in securing their voter registration and voting haveahart Sep 2017 #13
Oregon SOS rejected fed help. It is a double edged sword. I for one would be very nervous about Amaryllis Sep 2017 #16
They stole the elections malaise Sep 2017 #14
But they didn't alter the vote count, right? So it doesn't matter.(How do you do the sarcasm thing?) Amaryllis Sep 2017 #15
Comrade Casino* lost by a huge margin. He's a total loser. Achilleaze Sep 2017 #17
I can't help wondering if Equifax breach is for another major attack against voter rolls Fresh_Start Sep 2017 #19
k and r for visibility niyad Sep 2017 #20
I wish I could speak to someone with technical knowledge so I can Rene Sep 2017 #21
"but the alterations were discovered and rectified" Pugster Sep 2017 #22
K&R... spanone Sep 2017 #23
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Just the tip of the theft berg.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 04:03 PM
Sep 2017

Waiting for info on Detroit,Milwaukee,and other Cities in the so Rust Belt. Stories of Electronic Manipulation just are not going away,when Time decides to publish this means we are beyond smoke,we have a smoking gun.

diva77

(7,659 posts)
3. +1000 This. Yes, "just the tip of the theft berg"
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 04:24 PM
Sep 2017


Hopefully Dems will not concede elections so easily in "losses" by a small margin, especially where legitimate polls are out of whack with election results...

Elections officials must be pressured to decertify all computerized voting & tabulating and return to hand counted paper ballots at precinct level. And voter purges by contractors such as Crosscheck must be stopped and voters put back on the rolls immediately.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Most Politicians will tell you this,
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 06:18 PM
Sep 2017

no matter how messy a campaign gets,if the Voters become disillusioned,it's all over and we enter the reign of a Dictatorship.

It is all about the Integrity of the System. And we are at that critical spot in our Nations Dialogue as to where we go. The Republican Party is following the lead of the Koch Brothers,Bob Mercer,and Rupert Murdoch. They have always wanted a Republican Majority know matter what it takes.

Example being Nunes and his obstruction,Lindsey Graham and his revival of the ACA repeal in order to save McConnell's sorry ass,and the last item on Thursday's House Agenda doing a Budget from hell.

It still is all about trust and that is being stretched damn thin at this date.

byronius

(7,401 posts)
8. Agree. There is a natural reticence to report on this issue: 'voter confidence'.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 05:30 PM
Sep 2017

Much deeper than it looks. And a clear warning signal for all True Americans, by which I mean people who like Democracy.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
2. and congress is doing WHAT now to ensure we have free and fair elections in the future?
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 04:22 PM
Sep 2017

Oh right. Not a goddamn thing. Thanks a-holes.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
4. Why is it the MSM are always the last to know. Thought their job was to dig up the facts.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 04:30 PM
Sep 2017

We knew about all this plus the actual changing of votes long ago. Just reference the work of Greg Palast.

Buyer's remorse is my guess.

BigmanPigman

(51,635 posts)
7. Agree...we DID all know about this and other major factors which
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 05:10 PM
Sep 2017

should nullify and void the entire election.

We knew that social media was being used to influence voters too. Between Comey releasing unnecessary info right before the election, wikileaks favoring 45, and MSM giving his campaign unlimited free publicity as well as not questioning and challenging GOP liars affiliated with the campaign all contributed to the win.

If the parties were reversed, the Dems would all be on their way to jail and the election would be awarded to the GOP. They are lying, cheating sociopaths as well as the definition of corruption and treason.

We should have all the election results erased, including Congress and state and city results since people vote down ballot. Obama could substitute until Hillary can assume office and somehow stop all actions in Congress and roll back all actions to the beginning of the Congressional calendar year and the true members of Congress who should've easily won assume their rightful positions. This would include getting rid of Gorsuch too.

I obviously know this has never been done and there is no precedent for it, but our country will have to do it to ensure the validity of our democracy in the future.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. Not even the tip of the iceberg yet.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 05:58 PM
Sep 2017

Plus, when will everyone realize that this is the kind of crime that leaves no real trace. Stealing elections isn't like robbing a museum, there is no blank spot on the wall where the million dollar painting was hanging. To extend the analogy, it is as if someone hung a fraudulent copy there -- Donald Trump, the fraudulent copy of a President.

diva77

(7,659 posts)
18. A crime that is so obvious, yet repugs get away with it EVERY time because it's hard to prove.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 11:00 PM
Sep 2017

I am still waiting for elections officials, bound by oath of office and ethics of their professional organizations, to speak up and reject computerized voting & tabulation on the basis that the machines do NOT meet the burden of proof that every vote is guaranteed to be counted as cast.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
10. This keeps getting reported and keeps getting treated as rumor.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 06:00 PM
Sep 2017

The M$M pretend to be acting in the publics best interest when they continue to play the game of "what will play to the circus attendees."

renate

(13,776 posts)
12. I really believe that if Democrats had won the House, Senate, and presidency,
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 06:26 PM
Sep 2017

... we would all still be talking about this 24/7. It would have been a bombshell to the idea of our democracy.

Instead, the wrong people are angry about it, and we're all so overwhelmed with everything else that's going on that this is just old news.

 

haveahart

(905 posts)
13. Obama administration offered help to states in securing their voter registration and voting
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 06:27 PM
Sep 2017

data. Most states, especially the red states rejected the offer.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
16. Oregon SOS rejected fed help. It is a double edged sword. I for one would be very nervous about
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:09 PM
Sep 2017

the current fed government getting involved in Oregon elections, which are some of the cleanest in the nation. I don't have a good answer.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
17. Comrade Casino* lost by a huge margin. He's a total loser.
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 08:17 PM
Sep 2017

only the illegitimate actions of republican TreasonWeasels in collusion with evil-empire** russian money mobsters allowed them to steal the election from the American people and to continue to wage ACTS OF WAR*** against the USA.

* republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
** per ronald reagan
*** per all 17 US Intelligence Agencies and even dick freaking cheney.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
19. I can't help wondering if Equifax breach is for another major attack against voter rolls
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 09:01 AM
Sep 2017

not to mention creating evidence for the voting fraud scam.

Rene

(1,183 posts)
21. I wish I could speak to someone with technical knowledge so I can
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:40 PM
Sep 2017

explain how I think they stole the actual votes...... the 1% in each electoral college win state. They can contact me and I'll describe the server situation.

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