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malaise

(269,157 posts)
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:21 PM Sep 2017

Yep we're saturated but Jose Headed Towards New England; 96L a Concern for Eastern Caribbean

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/jose-headed-towards-new-england-96l-concern-eastern-caribbean
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Track forecast for Jose
A high-pressure system building in to the northeast of Jose will steer the storm to the northwest and then north over the weekend, putting Jose a few hundred miles east of North Carolina’s Outer Banks on Monday, then close to the coast of southeast Massachusetts on Wednesday. The large waves from the storm will be capable of causing high surf and considerable beach erosion along the shores of the mid-Atlantic and New England coasts during this period. Jose’s fate beyond Wednesday is uncertain, with some models predicting a rapid motion to the east-northeast, out to sea, and other models predicting that Jose will get trapped in an area of weak steering currents, wandering in the waters between North Carolina and Massachusetts for multiple days.

96L
Our three top models for predicting tropical cyclone genesis—the European, GFS, and UKMET—have been predicting development of 96L over multiple runs, with Sunday being the preferred day of development into a tropical depression. 96L will begin affecting the Lesser Antilles Islands on Monday. After that, the course of the system is less certain, as the models have differences in their predictions for the forward speed of 96L. The European and GFS models predict a threat to Puerto Rico by Tuesday and the Dominican Republic by Wednesday, while the UKMET model predicts that 96L will move very slowly through the northern Lesser Antilles on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. This model has not been performing as well as the GFS and European model with this system, and a more rapid motion of 96L to the Dominican Republic by Wednesday is a more likely solution.

Beyond Wednesday, the path of 96L will depend in part upon what Jose is up to. If Jose is still wandering off the U.S. mid-Atlantic coast, this will create a weakness in the ridge of high pressure steering 96L to the west-northwest, and 96L will turn more toward the northwest. If Jose is out of the picture, the ridge could keep 96L rolling west-northwestward. In either case, it is possible that 96L will approach the U.S. East Coast more than a week from now. A strong autumn-like upper-level trough will be moving across the western and central U.S. late next week. This will tend to pump up a ridge toward the northeast U.S. and northwest Atlantic, which could end up blocking 96L from moving out to sea (and could even affect Jose).
Intensity forecast for 96L

The 12Z Friday run of the SHIPS model predicted that 96L would have very favorable conditions for development over the next five days, with wind shear low to moderate, very warm SSTs near 29 – 29.5°C (84 - 85°F), and high relative humidity at mid-levels of the atmosphere. These conditions should allow for steady strengthening of 96L once it organizes into a tropical depression. The next two names on the list of Atlantic storms are Lee and Maria.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/


The experts appear concerned with what is likely to be Marie in a day or so. Those poor islands can't take another hit. Lee (the current TD) will be a fish storm.
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Yep we're saturated but Jose Headed Towards New England; 96L a Concern for Eastern Caribbean (Original Post) malaise Sep 2017 OP
There are people on social media pulling for Hurricane Lee Ex Lurker Sep 2017 #1
Well yet again they will lose malaise Sep 2017 #2
Let me add a caveat malaise Sep 2017 #3
Yep Lee will be the fish storm malaise Sep 2017 #8
What is a fish storm again? haveahart Sep 2017 #16
Going out to sea malaise Sep 2017 #18
So they are pulling for Lee to tear up their own red-states once again? haveahart Sep 2017 #17
"... other models predicting that Jose will get trapped in an area of weak steering currents, Squinch Sep 2017 #4
Jose will have a say in howthe other two develop malaise Sep 2017 #5
Can't wrap my brain around the one heading to islands FloridaBlues Sep 2017 #6
+1,000 malaise Sep 2017 #7
I need TD15..soon to be Maria...to lift a bit HipChick Sep 2017 #9
Well so far Jamaica has been very fortunate malaise Sep 2017 #10
A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for... malaise Sep 2017 #11
Marie is now a TS -three storms in the Atlantic again malaise Sep 2017 #12
Oh dear, I hope they miss the islands and the south. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #13
Well Barbados and the Windwards look like they'll get it this time malaise Sep 2017 #14
Crap.... HipChick Sep 2017 #15
Ugh DesertRat Sep 2017 #19
It's magnificent malaise Sep 2017 #20
Ana Navarro says Tanuki Sep 2017 #21
Ha! She's a good one to follow on twitter DesertRat Sep 2017 #22

Ex Lurker

(3,816 posts)
1. There are people on social media pulling for Hurricane Lee
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:47 PM
Sep 2017

to hit the US as Robert E. Lee's revenge. I am not kidding.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
3. Let me add a caveat
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:54 PM
Sep 2017

If 96L becomes a TS before TS fourteen becomes Lee, then all bets are off. I'm assuming that 96L becomes Marie and not Lee

Squinch

(51,000 posts)
4. "... other models predicting that Jose will get trapped in an area of weak steering currents,
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:55 PM
Sep 2017

wandering in the waters between North Carolina and Massachusetts for multiple days."

This storm has been acting like a drunken sailor on shore leave since it was born.

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
6. Can't wrap my brain around the one heading to islands
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 09:14 PM
Sep 2017

Hope this goes out to sea as well we certainly can't even face another storm anywhere near fl or islands

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
9. I need TD15..soon to be Maria...to lift a bit
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:00 AM
Sep 2017

Selfish on my part, but headed there in a couple of weeks...

malaise

(269,157 posts)
10. Well so far Jamaica has been very fortunate
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 11:03 AM
Sep 2017

Hope this continues although I'm sot sure any one who has been hit already can take any more

malaise

(269,157 posts)
11. A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 04:41 PM
Sep 2017

The government of Barbados has issued a Tropical Storm Watch for
Barbados and St. Vincent and the Grenadines.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...
* St. Lucia
* Martinique
* Guadeloupe
* Dominica
* Barbados
* St. Vincent and the Grenadines

A Tropical Storm Watch means that tropical storm conditions are
possible within the watch area, generally within 48 hours.

Interests elsewhere in the Lesser Antilles should monitor the
progress of this system. Additional Tropical Storm or Hurricane
Watches will likely be issued later today.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
12. Marie is now a TS -three storms in the Atlantic again
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 05:15 PM
Sep 2017

NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL152017
500 PM AST Sat Sep 16 2017

Satellite images indicate that the system located several hundred
miles east of the Lesser Antilles has become much better organized
throughout the day. The low-level center of circulation is now
well defined, and banding features have become better established in
all quadrants. The initial wind speed is increased to 45 kt, in
agreement with a Dvorak classification from TAFB. This makes the
system a tropical storm, Maria becomes the thirteenth named storm
in the Atlantic basin this season.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. Oh dear, I hope they miss the islands and the south.
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 05:21 PM
Sep 2017

They have had enough lately. What is it going to take to wake some of these idiots up to the reality of global warming? Soon enough, it will be too late. We can't stop nature, we can only stop making things worse for ourselves.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
14. Well Barbados and the Windwards look like they'll get it this time
Sat Sep 16, 2017, 05:25 PM
Sep 2017

but I doubt they will get anything like Irma. Depending on where it goes the Leewards, Virgins and Puerto Rico may get hit again. This time we're likely to be in the cone since it looks to be roaming more South and West

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