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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 07:46 AM Sep 2017

Facebook sent its employees to Donald Trumps campaign office to help with online marketing

Facebook is finally admitting that it allowed fake Russian accounts to run paid political ads during the election (link). Although Facebook says it’s now cooperating with Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the revelation is bringing new attention to the relationship between Facebook Incorporated and the Donald Trump campaign. That relationship involved Facebook sending its employees to help out at the Trump campaign office in charge of digital marketing. The source of this information: one of Trump’s own people.


In an online BBC video, Theresa Hong, the Donald Trump campaign’s Digital Content Director, has made a number of startling confessions that she seems to think were bragging points. She’s revealed that Cambridge Analytica, the company suspected of having used voter data stolen by the Russian government to plot its online marketing strategy on Trump’s behalf, ran its operations out of the same offices where the Trump campaign itself was plotting its paid Facebook ad strategy. But the truly shocking revelation is who else she admits was in the building, which Trump’s people called “Project Alamo.”


The BBC interviewer asks Hong, “What were Facebook and Google and YouTube people actually doing here? Why were they here?” She responds by saying “They were helping us, you know. They were basically our hands-on partners as far as being able to utilize the platform as effectively as possible.” Shen then bragged “When you’re pumping in millions and millions of dollars to these social platforms, you’re going to get white glove treatment. So they would send people, you know, representatives to the Project Alamo to ensure that all our needs were being met.”

http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/facebook-employees-trump-office/4784/

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Facebook sent its employees to Donald Trumps campaign office to help with online marketing (Original Post) UCmeNdc Sep 2017 OP
Drip - Drip - Drip.......nt global1 Sep 2017 #1
Millions and millions of dollars C_U_L8R Sep 2017 #2
Hm, wouldn't that be an in kind campaign donation? tanyev Sep 2017 #3
Reported or not, no business entity can contribute in-kind donations, and there are limits, too. George II Sep 2017 #14
No, it's still part of a commercial transaction. More's the pity. hedda_foil Sep 2017 #19
Good catch saidsimplesimon Sep 2017 #4
No, they won't... Maybe Facebook is now ubiquitous enough to be annabanana Sep 2017 #6
You mean like they used to regulate the airwaves? Ligyron Sep 2017 #7
Sure annabanana Sep 2017 #9
They also went to Hillary's office. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2017 #5
+1! tecelote Sep 2017 #11
So by your logic... hwmnbn Sep 2017 #12
Of course you won't. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2017 #16
"it's common fucking sense"... hwmnbn Sep 2017 #24
They used the internet. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2017 #25
No one said it was all Facebook's fault... hwmnbn Sep 2017 #32
I have seen the video. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2017 #33
Funny, but... hwmnbn Sep 2017 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2017 #17
Regarding critical difference, I would also suggest intent. There is a big difference between c-rational Sep 2017 #22
No kidding Blue_Adept Sep 2017 #13
I hate Trump but given this is the Palmer Report... nycbos Sep 2017 #8
Okay, I can't stand 45 and the Russian mobsters that put him in power, but AllyCat Sep 2017 #10
Ding ding ding! Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2017 #18
I'd like to see exactly who ran which ads... hwmnbn Sep 2017 #34
Good news. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #15
How much are they going to pay to deprogram the people that were so completely Baitball Blogger Sep 2017 #20
if i owned a company and someone wanted to spend big$$$$$ with me god damn right i would help them dembotoz Sep 2017 #21
Wow, Palmer Report is misrepresenting something Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #23
Facebook has a great deal to answer for Gothmog Sep 2017 #26
Yes but this isn't part of it Egnever Sep 2017 #27
Russia spent $100k, did Facebook go to Russia to help? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #28
Russia didn't setup a large adbuy. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2017 #30
Doesnt Facebook offer this to any paying company? N/T FreeState Sep 2017 #29
Yes. nt Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2017 #31
As far as I'm concerned, Facebook is an online social media company. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #35
Facebook and Google will do this for any high dollar spender. Doesn't mean they supported Trump octoberlib Sep 2017 #36

C_U_L8R

(45,020 posts)
2. Millions and millions of dollars
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 07:55 AM
Sep 2017

The numbers keep changing.
How much was Russia's (illegal) contribution to the Trump campaign?

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. Reported or not, no business entity can contribute in-kind donations, and there are limits, too.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:16 AM
Sep 2017

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
4. Good catch
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:28 AM
Sep 2017

So, will FB lose any revenue as a result of this treachery? I have never had a FB, Youtube or Twitter account.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
5. They also went to Hillary's office.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:28 AM
Sep 2017

Of course, this is the rarely factual Palmer Report.

Anyone paying that kind of money for advertising gets in house TECH SUPPORT.

Also, fun fact, HRC received the majority of donations from facebook employees and executives.

hwmnbn

(4,279 posts)
12. So by your logic...
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:15 AM
Sep 2017
Anyone paying that kind of money for advertising gets in house TECH SUPPORT.


Then the one critical difference between the two campaigns is Russian involvement.


Btw, I googled and couldn't find any article confirming in house tech support for Clinton campaign. It would seem likely and obvious but I couldn't find it. May I ask for your source on this? Thanks.



 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
16. Of course you won't.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:25 AM
Sep 2017

Because it's common fucking sense. If this were a thing, don't you think Hillary and/or prominent Dems would be screaming it from the rooftops?

They're not, because it's not a scandal.

The real scandal is Russian influence on our election. Not the infrastructure they used.

hwmnbn

(4,279 posts)
24. "it's common fucking sense"...
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 11:47 AM
Sep 2017

So that means you can't or won't provide confirmation for your assertion. Noted.

The real scandal is Russian influence on our election.


What infrastructure did the Russians use to influence our election? What does your common fucking sense tell you?



 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
25. They used the internet.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 11:55 AM
Sep 2017

Including, but not limited to, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, email, various targeted ads from other advertisers, Google, Yahoo, and other search engines via SEO, tons of blogs and fake news websites. And there were even russian trolls/bots here on DU.

Not to mention hacking of various state election boards and databases.

But it's all facebook's fault.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/russian-political-ad-buys-raise-questions-facebook-transparency

hwmnbn

(4,279 posts)
32. No one said it was all Facebook's fault...
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:14 PM
Sep 2017

but they may have been witting or unwitting accomplices to this "influence." That's a point of inquiry the special Counsel is pursuing. Thus far Facebook has not been completely cooperative. They're a private company so we're in tricky legal waters here. I'll await developments.

I absolutely agree with TPM's article that this influence was multi-faceted. The question is was it coordinated? Seems like it was. So the main issue is who coordinated? I suspect Russia did most of the grunt work, but someone helped them to focus and maximize the effect.



And that SOMEONE must be held accountable for this straight up treason.



You may have seen this but if you didn't...





I've not seen or heard any similar information about the Clinton campaign, that's why I asked for your source.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
33. I have seen the video.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:21 PM
Sep 2017

It's not damning like you think it is.

And of course you won't hear about it. It's NOT newsworthy.
"Company Provides Paid Service To Political Candidates, Details at 11".
ANYONE spending millions on facebook marketing WILL get hands on attention from facebook staff. If Clinton marketed on facebook (which she did), then she had the SAME services that OrangeDick McFuckface did. It's not illegal, nefarious, or even notable.
The only reason you know about Trump having said service was this interview that keeps being posted ad naseum by people who don't understand how the internet works.

Ridiculous.

hwmnbn

(4,279 posts)
37. Funny, but...
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 07:59 PM
Sep 2017
And of course you won't hear about it. It's NOT newsworthy.

you do hear about THIS Drumpf/Russia/Facebook strategy. That seemed newsworthy enough for the BBC. I take it you have different journalistic standards.




If Clinton marketed on facebook (which she did), then she had the SAME services that OrangeDick McFuckface did.

And you know this by your common fucking sense again? Would you publish that statement in your newspaper, blog, letter to the editor, or even a comment thread on an internet forum without citing external sourcing?




The only reason you know about Drumpf having said service was this interview that keeps being posted ad naseum

(1) I'm impressed by your certainty about what and how I know things.

(2) Credibility of the clip is not dependent on number of views or posts. Do you have any evidence that counters the substance of the BBC report? If so, why not e-mail and enlighten them on their errors. They'd be grateful.



by people who don't understand how the internet works.

Well you got me there, I'll defer to your superior intellect and confess I'm not very bright. But that's precisely why I require independent verification. I have to work double hard to screen out eloquent bullshit. It's a curse!



Ridiculous

I agree. So Dr Hobbitstein, unless you have more to add, I'll just say Peace...Out.

Response to hwmnbn (Reply #12)

c-rational

(2,595 posts)
22. Regarding critical difference, I would also suggest intent. There is a big difference between
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 11:02 AM
Sep 2017

scheming and strategizing, and unfortunately with our corporate MSM they would be put forth as equivanent.

AllyCat

(16,222 posts)
10. Okay, I can't stand 45 and the Russian mobsters that put him in power, but
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 09:54 AM
Sep 2017

this is the Palmer Report. Additionally, did others running for office run ads on FB? Wouldn't any major outlet seek business from a national or local campaign with money to spend?

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
18. Ding ding ding!
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:31 AM
Sep 2017

Those are the logical questions to ask when posited with sensationalist/yellow journalism.

hwmnbn

(4,279 posts)
34. I'd like to see exactly who ran which ads...
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:28 PM
Sep 2017

When and where. Seems like that's get-able information in this digital world.

Analysis might shed some light as to how this "interference" actually took place.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
20. How much are they going to pay to deprogram the people that were so completely
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:38 AM
Sep 2017

brainwashed that they're still posting nuttery today? Facebook: A self-propelling nut factory. It finds the gene of prejudice and feeds it until it grows inside the brain.

dembotoz

(16,832 posts)
21. if i owned a company and someone wanted to spend big$$$$$ with me god damn right i would help them
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:47 AM
Sep 2017

take them to lunch
buy em a beer or three
give em a bunch of company pens

tech support you damn well better believe it

in most places you buy something tech you get tech support....

would you buy an i phone that had not tech support? of coarse not

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
23. Wow, Palmer Report is misrepresenting something
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 11:12 AM
Sep 2017

That's never happened before, has it.....

When you spend a bunch of money with a company like Facebook, they send people to work with you and keep you happy. Doesn't matter if it's Trump, Hillary, Stein, or anyone else. If Vermin Supreme set up a multi-million dollar advertising account he would get the same treatment too.

Typical Palmer nonsense. Take something like this and then spin it to be a huge controversy when it's really nothing. Nothing but click bait garbage so he gets paid because the traffic pushes ad views.

I can't believe people still find his garbage credible.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
30. Russia didn't setup a large adbuy.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 01:17 PM
Sep 2017

Russia had small, seemingly unrelated, adbuys that totaled $100k.
Russia's FUNDING may have all come from one place, but the adbuys were setup small and discretely.

Big difference between one person dropping $100k and many different people dropping a combined total of $100k.

 

JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
35. As far as I'm concerned, Facebook is an online social media company.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:31 PM
Sep 2017

They exist to make their shareholder's money and they deal in personal information and human information. They sell off information about users and sell ad space to the highest bidders and, as far as I'm aware, nothing regulating their stances in partisan politics. I don't expect corporations to necessarily be upstanding or have a conscience. They exist to make money. Trump paid them money... they delivered. If any rules were broken, I'm sure it's in the Trump camp.

Perhaps laws need written to limit the influence social media has on elections and election contributions.

But as of right now, I don't think Facebook was in the wrong whatsoever and don't have shit to answer for.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
36. Facebook and Google will do this for any high dollar spender. Doesn't mean they supported Trump
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:31 PM
Sep 2017

or didn't support him. It's all about the money.

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