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Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:39 AM Sep 2017

Trump believes in Eugenics/Superior Genes

Last edited Wed Sep 13, 2017, 10:52 AM - Edit history (1)

This may be common knowledge in the DU, but I haven't seen anything regarding this issue.

While many people, including myself, are always wondering whether Trump's racist acts are to appease his base, or he's personally a racist, I think this video confirms the latter.

In the video, Trump says he does not believe all men are created equal, he's proud of his "German blood", believes in innate genetic superiority, and confirms the biographers statement that he was raised
to believe in at least certain aspects of eugenics.

As usual, he speaks vaguely without mentioning groups with either greater or lesser genetic ability.

But that's just him being his typical douchebag self who likes to screw with people. At this point, its very easy to connect the dots, starting with this video, moving to his birther movement, and now doing everything he can to delegitimize a black man's presidency by reversing all his actions.

What frustrates me is that this most concerning of issues was never addressed by the mass media. Ever.

The first question in the first debate should have been "do you believe all men are created equal?" because he does not, with ideally a follow-up question or 3.

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Trump believes in Eugenics/Superior Genes (Original Post) Juliusseizure Sep 2017 OP
how does he explain his pig gene?? Angry Dragon Sep 2017 #1
Let's not raise him to pig status Juliusseizure Sep 2017 #6
not much is lower than a snake fart............is that better?? Angry Dragon Sep 2017 #14
He should be so lucky! MoonRiver Sep 2017 #29
K$R yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2017 #2
oh, this one will never get old eShirl Sep 2017 #5
This is the best Trump cartoon I have ever seen! Willie Pep Sep 2017 #7
NICE!! Angry Dragon Sep 2017 #15
Except tRump is lacking any so-called "superior genes" Canoe52 Sep 2017 #3
Anyone whose ancestors didn't stay in Africa is part Neanderthal. eShirl Sep 2017 #4
ESPN actually apologize for Hill calling him a white supremacist JonLP24 Sep 2017 #8
I guess it is easy to believe that when you are born rich. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #9
if it is about Genes his would be an example of inferior ones JI7 Sep 2017 #13
He's always been full of shit. That's for damn sure. oasis Sep 2017 #10
He doesn't even believe in science Juliusseizure Sep 2017 #11
failed piece of shit JI7 Sep 2017 #12
I doubt very much cyclonefence Sep 2017 #16
Thats funny MFM008 Sep 2017 #17
He's been saying this shit for years. His words and actions (and his father's) have been consistently racist. nocalflea Sep 2017 #18
Interesting that most of the people who claim this are so wildly unattractive. Neema Sep 2017 #19
And somewhat dumb. haveahart Sep 2017 #20
are there not superior genes clu Sep 2017 #21
ah yes, the scientific term "superior" eShirl Sep 2017 #22
Genetics aren't set in stone JonLP24 Sep 2017 #25
the outcome of genetic effects are not set in stone clu Sep 2017 #27
When Jefferson penned "all men are created equal," Wednesdays Sep 2017 #32
of this clu Sep 2017 #33
Evolution has no concept of "superior" genes, only genes that are more "fit" for one's environment. trotsky Sep 2017 #34
What you list are simply imaginary values of worth rather than more efficient genes. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #36
they are rough examples clu Sep 2017 #37
Germans tried to rule the world three times Drahthaardogs Sep 2017 #23
So why wasn't this shown all over the media starting back in 2008? They every rally he has haveahart Sep 2017 #24
Great points JonLP24 Sep 2017 #26
Trump's racist views and behaviors have been known for decades. yardwork Sep 2017 #28
Long known about this... Lithos Sep 2017 #30
He should buy some sometime.... Pholus Sep 2017 #31
Trump does not have superior genes Gothmog Sep 2017 #35
Passed 'em along to his sons, too: MineralMan Sep 2017 #38
heheheheh clu Sep 2017 #39
He is a White Supremacist Johnny2X2X Sep 2017 #40
Well.... Egnever Sep 2017 #41

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
9. I guess it is easy to believe that when you are born rich.
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:43 AM
Sep 2017

What genetic talent does Trump have? The gene for going bankrupt? The gene for lying and conning people into believing your BS?

JI7

(89,252 posts)
13. if it is about Genes his would be an example of inferior ones
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:27 AM
Sep 2017

with the 3 oldest kids as more proof of it.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
11. He doesn't even believe in science
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:04 AM
Sep 2017

He doesn't even know what a gene is.

How does he explain his retarded sons?

He's half Scottish.Is that the dumb side or the lunatic side?

When was malignant narcissism deemed a genetic success? I'd rate his genes slightly less favorable than Charles Manson's, who had discernable music talent.

He keeps saying he has the "best words". That's a stupid second grade level description. Same for "big brain". Dillweed.


cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
16. I doubt very much
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:40 AM
Sep 2017

that the people who voted for him disagree with this position, although most of them probably have the good sense not to talk about it.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
18. He's been saying this shit for years. His words and actions (and his father's) have been consistently racist.
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 05:55 AM
Sep 2017

The media didn't call him out on his mob ties, why call him out on his racial beliefs? I wonder if the mainstream media realizes just how many centrists like myself no longer trust them. My confidence has been so badly shaken, I rarely watch network or cable news anymore. Was avid CBS This morning viewer, can't stand just looking at these people anymore, let alone listening to them. "America, where real journalism goes to die".

Neema

(1,151 posts)
19. Interesting that most of the people who claim this are so wildly unattractive.
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:05 AM
Sep 2017

I guess their delusion starts when they look in the mirror and see themselves as superior in any way, and goes on from there.

 

clu

(494 posts)
21. are there not superior genes
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:11 AM
Sep 2017

not between races, but among races? some people are smarter than others. some are taller, some are stocky. of course trump's statements have an implication but let's avoid a knee-jerk reaction that rejects any similar opinion.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
25. Genetics aren't set in stone
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:22 AM
Sep 2017

There are many lifestyle & environmental factors can play a role in your genetic makeup.

 

clu

(494 posts)
27. the outcome of genetic effects are not set in stone
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:29 AM
Sep 2017

for sure nurture is critical but let's not exclude a topic because a few racists like to talk about it like a trophy

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
32. When Jefferson penned "all men are created equal,"
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 09:22 AM
Sep 2017

he meant it in the legal sense, not biological.

I could never become like Michael Jordan, even if I were raised in an identical environment and had his exact training. Same with other great talent such as Wolfgang Mozart and Albert Einstein.

Regardless of our abilities (or lack thereof), even if there are genetic differences we are all entitled to equal human rights.

 

clu

(494 posts)
33. of this
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 09:30 AM
Sep 2017

there is no doubt. the right hides behind this misinformation though, so IMO it's good to counter it.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
34. Evolution has no concept of "superior" genes, only genes that are more "fit" for one's environment.
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 10:37 AM
Sep 2017

Genes for tallness aren't any more "superior" than genes for average or smaller height.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
36. What you list are simply imaginary values of worth rather than more efficient genes.
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 12:14 PM
Sep 2017

"some people are smarter than others. some are taller, some are stocky..."

What you list are simply imaginary cultural values of worth rather than inherently more efficient/effective (or "better" ) genes.

Knee jerk, indeed.

 

clu

(494 posts)
37. they are rough examples
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 12:26 PM
Sep 2017

do we not think that to some extent, being artistic or verbally or mathematically intelligent are *not* genetic. I don't even care enough to bother arguing nature versus nurture in terms of the influence they have on an individual - i'm simply stating the traits are there.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
23. Germans tried to rule the world three times
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:18 AM
Sep 2017

And they failed.

This descendent if the Eutrascans says you don't get to call yourself the master race if you can't even rule the world for 100 years.

 

haveahart

(905 posts)
24. So why wasn't this shown all over the media starting back in 2008? They every rally he has
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:20 AM
Sep 2017

from beginning to nasty end?

Intelligence is at least 70% relative to your environment. I would like to give him a batch of cement and some bricks and see if he can build a house with his bare hands and few simple masonry tools like my grandfather.

I would like to see him survive in a village deep in the Amazon without running water.

Take most people out of their native environment and take away all the resources they are used to have at their disposal. Start there.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
28. Trump's racist views and behaviors have been known for decades.
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 06:30 AM
Sep 2017

The media chose to ignore it or cover for it during the 2016 election.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
30. Long known about this...
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 07:48 AM
Sep 2017

He is a throwback to White Nationalism of the 1920's when such things were common.

The hypocrisy is that while he thinks his German heritage makes him superior, Germany as a country and people all uniformly despise and reject Trump.

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
31. He should buy some sometime....
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 08:08 AM
Sep 2017

I don't figure I won the genetic lottery by a landslide, but I would pass on any offered Trump-genes.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
40. He is a White Supremacist
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 12:44 PM
Sep 2017

The media has been absolutely absent in this obvious fact. Any respectable media would be referring to him as a White Supremacists every single time they mention him. Our White Supremacist President.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
41. Well....
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 12:47 PM
Sep 2017

Evolution is exactly the result of superior genes.

That said what might be superior in one circumstance may not be in another. I don't think there is any doubt that there are superior genes. That does not mean Trump has them.

For example when it comes to brain power Steven hawking clearly has superior genes but when it comes to general health he definitely does not.

Equal is an illusion. There is no equal.

Working to ensure everyone is treated equally as far as justice or opportunity is not the same as people actually being equal.

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