Hillary Clinton Says She Will Never Run for Office Again

[Hassin Bin Sober]

Hillary Clinton Says She Will Never Run for Office Again

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/10/hillary_clinton_says_she_will_never_run_for_office_again.html


Former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton made it clear she is not going to run for public office again, although she vowed to continue trying to make a difference on the issues she cares about. “As an active politician it’s over. I am done with being a candidate,” Clinton said in an interview with CBS that was broadcast on Sunday morning, two days before the release of her memoir about the 2016 campaign. “But I am not done with politics, because I literally believe that our country’s future is at stake.”

The interview to promote her memoir What Happened made it clear Clinton is still not over her shocking electoral defeat in November. “I am good,” Clinton said. “But that doesn’t mean I am complacent or resolved about what happened. It still is very painful. It hurts a lot.”

The former candidate said she was “gobsmacked” by her loss to Trump. “I went, into a frenzy of closet cleaning, and long walks in the woods, playing with my dogs, and, as I write—yoga, alternate nostril breathing, which I highly recommend, tryin’ to calm myself down. And—you know, my share of chardonnay. It was a very hard transition. I really struggled,” she said. “I couldn’t feel; I couldn’t think. I was just gobsmacked, wiped out.”

Clinton also used the interview to harshly criticize President Trump. “We have a reality show that leads to the election of a president,” Clinton said. “He ends up in the Oval Office. He says, ‘Boy, it’s so much harder than I thought it would be. This is really tough. I had no idea.’ Well, yeah, because it’s not a show. It’s real. It’s reality, for sure.”

[emulatorloo]

1. Closet cleaning. I should have done that rather than drinking to much and eating crap food

and gaining 25lbs.

[LisaM]

2. November 9, 2016 was the hardest day of my life.

I still cannot believe what happened. I thought that December 12, 2000 would have been the worst day in I ever went through on a political basis, but I was wrong. I almost didn't make the transition between November 8 and 9, to tell you the truth.

Eff anyone who "got over" Gore's, and Hillary's, losses. Eff them forever. We cannot and should not get over this nonsense of stolen elections and evisceration of stellar candidates who would have made two of the best presidents this country ever had.

[StevieM]

27. I would add the destruction of ACORN to that list of heinous injustices.

The GOP is so diabolical.

[LisaM]

36. I would, too, though I can't assign an exact day to it.

We need to wake up about voter suppression.

[exfthings]

32. We have no choice

Sadly. The only option is to look forward to 2020 and get our efforts into overdrive! Focusing on conspiracy theories about the election being stolen (remember when the crazy GOP tried doing this PRIOR to orange's win?) will not win us the 2020 race.

This isn't a time to take a page out of the GOP playbook. It is a time to follow the example of our Democratic leaders and focus on getting our wonderful message out to as many people as we can. We need to get every Dem voter out to the polls, one way or the other.

[LisaM]

39. Voter suppression is not a conspiracy theory.

Why on earth would you make such a misstatement?

[Squinch]

44. This is dumb. The theft of the election is not a conspiracy theory. Russian politicians

freely acknowledge it on live TV now. Every US intelligence service says it happened. Why would you say it didn't?

This isn't a time to be spouting the GOP mantra that the election wasn't stolen.

[exfthings]

83. That is incorrect

I know this, because I work for one of those agencies.

ODNI actively operates under the belief that various flavors of influence orchestrated by foreign actors did not change the result of the election. No one disputes that attempts were made, however. This may be shocking to the average individual, but it actually extremely common in intelligence circles.

Specifically, NSA is the agency tasked with defending US networks/infosystems and denying or degrading our adversaries access to wide-area networks. Such systems are routinely penetrated by foreign intelligence services and other actors, and do not constitute world-shattering events.

To be clear, it isn't a "GOP" mantra. And I'm almost shocked that I was labeled a "troll." Far from it, in fact. The election wasn't stolen, despite many adversaries attempting to project their sphere of influence into our political circles. When I see ODNI claim otherwise, my opinion will instantly change. Until that time, however, it is a giant distraction preventing us from getting our message out there!

As someone who frequently peruses right wing forums (opposition research, much?), I can say that many are elated over this Russia obsession. It isn't going to help us win in 2020. The DNC spent a lot of time and money making sure our message adequately explained our party to John Q. Public voter, and why he/she should give us the Presidency and statehouses.

[Squinch]

99. No, it's not. And that's nice that you work for intelligence agencies. I'm the queen of France.

There is absolutely no way that anyone can know that all the Russian shit that was thrown at this election did not change the result.

It's not something that should be ignored because your "opposition research much?" says that the Right has an opinion about it. Who gives a shit what they think?

It's not something that responsible voters dismiss with statements like: "this may be shocking to the average individual (condescend much?) but it (sic) actually extremely common in intelligence circles."

It's something for which responsible people will demand an investigation, and demand that we take all steps available so it doesn't happen again.

Unless one is a GOP troll, in which case that would be the last thing that one would want. If one were a GOP troll, one would try to insist that we just leave it alone and stop talking about it.

Russia tampered with our election, and their politicians are crowing about it on live TV. It happened.

And to be clear, yes it IS a GOP mantra.

[RhodeIslandOne]

56. Republicans have stolen two elections in 17 years

Their complaints that we do it are an attempt to inoculate and shame us into not complaining.

[LisaM]

58. Two FEDERAL elections....who knows what else has gone on?

It's so sickening.

[exfthings]

84. Define stolen?

As much as I hate the results, both elections were conducted in accordance with Federal law. Despite attempts by foreign actors to influence them, the parties within this country conducted themselves legally.

Posts this like are the reason our party hasn't spent more time and effort getting our message out to voters. Smh.

[Eliot Rosewater]

91. No, it was stolen, and not just with the use of crosscheck, which prevented up to one million

from voting, or when the Russians jacked the voters rolls making voters unable to vote, or the voter suppression that is unconstitutional, but on the day of the election there was tampering.

Wont be proven for a while, but it will be. All the while the trump crime family and the GOP fucks will destroy America.

[padfun]

69. I smell a troll

Someone who wants to legitimize the 2016 election as if it was square.

[exfthings]

85. In legal terms, it was

There is absolutely no evidence otherwise, and operating under such an assumption will do nothing but stymie our message that desperately needs to be heard by the voters.

My vehicle was full on election day, and I've been a Democratic voter for 30 years. No one has the right to question my dedication to the Democratic party. I do not appreciate terms such as "troll," terms you use in a vain attempt to elevate your position above the mere-assumption it is.

[Ninsianna]

86. These are not conspiracy theories, these are things we've got much evidence of.

Ignoring the broken, hacked and otherwise corrupt ways that votes were suppressed is a sure fire way to keep on losing.

This election was indeed stolen. Sadly, our government has no way to remedy that, but closing our eyes to the truth and failing to examine what went on is a sure fire way to lose 2018 and 2020.

Let's take a page out of what the rest of the world is doing to handle the crap that attacked us, and find out what happened and do what it takes to FIX it.

[KPN]

101. True. But it also strikes me that Bill and Barack were charismatic personalities, much like

Reagan, (hate to say it but to far too many) Trump, and even Jimmy Carter had an affable folksiness to him. Perhaps "charisma/persona" is far more important than the credit we as a party give it. Policy messaging is fine, but really connecting with people is more important it seems. We need to marry the two.

[Initech]

47. The GOP's hatred for the Clintons is unlike anything I've ever seen.

It truly sucks when you think about what could have been vs the shit stains we're stuck with. We went from true brilliance to Hilter 2: Electric Boogaloo. We went from the possible first woman president ever to a TV clown known for putting his name on shitty products and telling people they're fired. We have Nazis on college and high school campuses screaming free speech because their views aren't heard. I don't want to hear your views! We have batshit crazy religious fundamentalists picking judicial candidates. We have government institutions that are designed to help people replaced with "thoughts and prayers". No I will not get over it. I will fight this fascist shit if it kills me.

[Maven]

3. Will Bernie do the right thing and announce his intention not to run in 2020?

I hope so.

[monmouth4]

6. Why would that be the "right thing" for him to do? Just curious..n/t

[Not Ruth]

8. +1000

[LanternWaste]

13. Due to the consistent bleating for "new blood" and "new ideas"

Due to the consistent bleating for "new blood" and "new ideas" by posters who can define neither one.

[Squinch]

46. Really? You don't see any problem with BS running again?

[Maven]

19. Because as long as he's potentially in the race for 2020

His most devoted fans will continue to attack other Democratic contenders before they have a chance to build national profiles. See, e.g., the recent attacks on Kamala Harris.

Others continue using his name ("People for Bernie Sanders" ) to perpetuate the lie that Rs and Ds are the same.

Bottom line is that leaving open the possibility he will run again perpetuates the infighting and divisions in the party. It prevents us from moving forward. The right thing to do would be to take himself out of contention, as Hillary has done.

[monmouth4]

23. Thank you for your reply..n/t

[Not Ruth]

37. Or run and speak for himself instead of letting others speak in his place

[Maven]

41. He isn't viable. nt

[CentralMass]

76. People in glass houses..

[Maven]

82. ? nt

[still_one]

22. I will make it real simple for you. I will not vote for anyone who the first chance he gets,

discards the Democratic label, because he does NOT want to be associated as a Democrat, and goes around making speeches how bad the Democratic party is

[brush]

33. His age. He'll be almost 80. People want to vote for someone who they're sure will be around.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. Why would the most popular politician In the country make such a promise?

[Justice]

16. Clinton's approval was very high 3+ years out of the 2016 campaign. Just sayin'

[Autumn]

43. Her approval was very high after the 2008 primary. That was a very hard primary.

[ismnotwasm]

18. Because he would lose again?

[melman]

31. So you're saying losing a primary is disqualifying

How come that didn't apply to the loser of the 2008 primary?

[all american girl]

35. If I'm not mistaken, the key word would be "again," not because

he lost the first time.

[ismnotwasm]

38. +1

[Maven]

20. First of all, please stop trying the "most popular politician" nonsense

That Harvard Harris poll has been debunked many times.

Second, see my post above. He is damaged as a potential candidate and his continued presence looming over 2020 perpetuates divisions. Hillary was urged to announce that she wouldn't run again for the good of the party. She did. Time for Bernie to do the same.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

51. Popycock. It's Harvard poll.

Just saying it's been debunked doesn't make it so. Where did you go to school?

[Maven]

81. My, such establishment elitism from a fan of "our revolution"!

"Popycock", you say? Hardly.

https://twitter.com/i/moments/900800167321972736

The poll is bogus.

And also, how dare you. My watch tells time simultaneously in Monte Carlo, Beverly Hills, London, Paris, Rome, and Gstaad.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

90. In Philadelphia it's 50 bucks!

[still_one]

25. BECAUSE HE ISN'T A DEMOCRAT!!! He disassociated himself with the Democratic Party at the first

opportunity he had after using Democratic party to further his political ambitions

Here is where it stands. Enough of those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE in 2016 have pissed off a lot of folks who DID VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE in 2016, and because of THAT contribution from those self-identified progressives who wouldn't vote for the Democratic nominee, along with some other things, we lost the house, the senate, and the white house, and if he is stupid enough to try to run again in 2020, those Democrats who supported the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, will NOT be there for him, so let's see how that works out for him then

It is a double edged sword, and just watch it slice the other way if he runs.

[brush]

34. +100%

[Hassin Bin Sober]

55. -101% so there

[Squinch]

59. Oh, dear god. Aren't you better than that?

[stevenleser]

73. No. nt

[TexasTowelie]

104. !

[wryter2000]

62. Wish I could rec a reply

[blue cat]

67. +100

[all american girl]

42. Mmmmm, thinking that is Obama, not bernie.

[Squinch]

49. I wish people would stop spouting that poll. It's bullshit. And I think you might know that.

[WoonTars]

72. Except it isn't, is it?

No matter how many times you say that, still didn't make it so.

[Squinch]

106. Look up the poll. It's bullshit. It shows Mike Pence as a superstar too. So, uh, no.

[WoonTars]

107. I looked up the poll. Nothing 'bullshit' about it..

Still not sure how you come to that conclusion, other than your hatred of Senator Sanders

[QC]

52. FAKE NEWS!!!!!11 FAKE NEWS!!!!11!

[George II]

93. "Most popular politician in the country"? According to whom? That's simply not true.

[George II]

98. Here is the poll that many are using to assess the "popularity" of politicians:

Note, it does not include all politicians "in the country", nor is the word "popular" in the question. It only includes 12 "politicians", one of whom is NOT a "politician" (Steve Bannon), and two of whom have been "politicians" for only seven months (trump and Tillerson)

Of the 100 United States Senators, only four are included, of the 438 Representatives only two are included. It does not include any Governors or any holders of state-wide office.

Finally, note too that the results are "weighted", in fact the "weighted base" has been INCREASED from the total respondents! Not a very objective poll in any sense of the word.

"Now we will show you some names. Please indicate if you have a favorable or unfavorable view of that person - or if you've never heard of them."

Summary Of Very Favorable/Favorable
Base: All Respondents
Unweighted Base 2263 Weighted Base 2271
Bernie Sanders 1220 54%
Mike Pence 991 44%
Hillary Clinton 949 42%
Donald Trump 926 41%
Elizabeth Warren 843 37%
Paul Ryan 758 33%
Nancy Pelosi 704 31%
Rex Tillerson 650 29%
Jeff Sessions 634 28%
Chuck Schumer 630 28%
Mitch McConnell 441 19%
Stephen Bannon 377 17%

[livetohike]

12. +1000 n/t

[Thomas Hurt]

4. Whether you agree with her decision or not....

she will no longer be a lightning rod for the whackjob right. Besides she could always change her mind..........and the whackjob right probably already thinks she is lying and it is all part of some conspiracy.

[Squinch]

50. Why would you suggest she is not telling the truth? Jesus, it never stops.

[aikoaiko]

54. Because politics.

But if you read the text of my post, you'll see that I recognize that she's probably telling the truth.

I better delete, because I'm sure someone alerted it.

[Squinch]

57. She's "probably" telling the truth. SMH. Yeah, politics. Except

she has been remarkably truthful through her career and yet she is always painted as someone who lies.

You will probably disagree with this, but every woman who has watched this all these years knows exactly what is behind it.

[bettyellen]

80. You say that about all the politicians, do you? Doubt that.

[aikoaiko]

88. Maybe not all, but there aren't many politicians who would benefit from *not* being in the spotlight

...for the next 18 months if they wanted to run for president in 2020.

[bettyellen]

94. So it's particular to Hillary, and no one else who lost even worse yeast year...

Gotcha, LOL.

[aikoaiko]

97. Some people are unique.

I'm glad you got me. LOL

[nycbos]

7. She has shown amazing grace and class.

I wasn't always a fan of hers, however I have become a big admirer.

I was in Organizer in FL for the last mouth of the campaign. She went a letter to all the organizers. When I read it I almost cried. I have it framed on my wall.


She would in my opinion fully justified in saying this to the people "I tried to warn you about him. You didn't listen. You are getting exactly what you paid for. Now f*** off."

[niyad]

9. to our great loss, but I do understand.

[jcmaine72]

11. She was systematically defamed, degraded, denigrated, disparaged, devalued, and finally...

deprived of a victory she rightfully earned. Why would she run for office again?

[monmouth4]

14. It is behind us now, time to move on...again...n/t

[ismnotwasm]

15. Oh HELL no

I will always address the sexism and racism of this election. I don't have enough privilege to "move on"

[all american girl]

40. Thank you so much

I keep saying this in threads and no one will talk about the sexism and racism that has happened. We can't get republicans to address their issues, but we need to make sure this never happens again and nip this shit in the bud. I'm so sad that she will never run again, but damn, I can wait for her to help run and shape this party for the future. She seems to be so ahead of her time and we would be fools not to listen to her...that's my moving forward.

[ismnotwasm]

48. Exactly

[padfun]

70. Get ready for Kamala Harris

And watch the right wing heads explode! They are already starting on her.

[NastyRiffraff]

87. So are some "progressives" :(

[George II]

102. She has already been bashed right here on DU, more than once.

[Justice]

17. People said that after Bush v. Gore, and again after lies going to Iraq War. Didn't work out so well

then, and does not so now. Sweeping it under the rug doesn't solve anything.

[Maven]

21. Yes and the OP seems to be crowing about it

Shameful.

[Orsino]

24. I can't blame her, but I don't like that the haters won. n/t

[LexVegas]

26. Happy, huh? nt

[Maven]

28. He's thrilled

Look at his response on the other thread about this. Apparently one wasn't enough. But a different set of rules applies to his guy, as you can see above.

[LexVegas]

29. Oh, I know. nt

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

30. Good.

She ran, she didn't win. She's almost 70.

Pretty much everyone else who gets pushed here as a 2020 candidate is that old.

It is more than past time for a younger generation go step forward and start taking over the reins of the Democratic party. Republicans have been getting younger people out there for a good twenty years at this point. When are Democrats going to understand they need to do the same thing?

[Squinch]

53. Kamala Harris, Tammy Duckworth, Sherrod Brown, Al Frankin are all 70? Who knew?

That "everyone's too old and we don't have good candidates" bullshit is really ridiculous.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

60. Tammy Duckworth is 49. Kamala Harris is 52. Sherrod Brown is 64. Al Franken is 66.

[Squinch]

61. Yes, I know.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

63. Oh. I thought you didn't know

since you posted that they are all 70.

[Squinch]

64. I was responding to your comment that, "pretty much everyone else who gets

pushed here as a 2020 candidate is that old" i.e. 70.

Which is false.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

65. I was thinking of the constant

putting forth of Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden. The four you mentioned are almost never brought up.

There are a few others who occasional get referenced, but there's far too much same old same old promoted here.

This is also an issue with certain Democratic Senators and Representatives who are well over 70 and who apparently plan to die in office.

[Squinch]

66. The four I mentioned are almost never brought up? WTF?

[George II]

103. "Pretty much everyone else who gets pushed here as a 2020 candidate is that old"

Or even older.

[all american girl]

45. I'm sad she's not the president, she's mine

But this is great in that she can help shape our future. She has always been light years ahead of everyone else...I think her voice and vision will help us move into a brighter future and address our own sexist and racist issues that came to the front for the last 2 1/2 years...we all new they were there, but I know I've been surprised at how bad it is. She will be an awesome leader.

[BainsBane]

68. You commented in a thread just like this yesterday

Last edited Mon Sep 11, 2017, 05:18 PM - Edit history (2)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9578331


Not quite sure why you find it so earth shattering that it merits another thread, when she said this months ago. Many of us pointed out that fact, only to have it denied by those who can't seem to quit Hillary Clinton.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

74. I did? That's a link to your post

[BainsBane]

75. It's the same thread

But here it is. https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9578984

I originally intended to link to the OP. It hadn't occurred to me that you might forget.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

92. Different headline different source.

Are we paying by the k and r now? Should I check in with you if I want to k and r another thread on the same subject?

There's one in GD I kinda had my eye on. Wondering if you would vet it for me.

[bettyellen]

78. You certainly did! Forgetful these days?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9578984

[WoonTars]

71. Thank goodness for that!!!

I can't imagine why she would ever want to put herself through that ever again.

I think you've done enough Hillary. You deserve your rest and relaxation.

[oasis]

77. A broader interpretation: "I will no longer suffer fools gladly".

So watch out Repugs, Greens and revolutionary "Democrats", Hillary's taking names and kicking ass from this day forward.

[exfthings]

79. We have lost

one hell of a politician!

Thanks for your many years of service to our nation, H!

[Nevernose]

89. Good for her!

She's worked hard her whole life: as a wife and mother, in private industry, in public service. She's got a shit ton of money and millions that adore her. I hope she has a great time doing whatever else comes next -- God knows she's already accomplished more than most of us ever will.

I secretly hope she finishes out like my grandfather did: day drinking beer in the backyard of a house in a dense, major metropolitan area, and illegally shooting at crows and pigeons with a .22 pistol in an incredibly dangerous and irresponsible manner. Or maybe that's just MY idea of a great retirement...

[Warren DeMontague]

95. I wish her well in her next phase of life.

[Autumn]

96. She and Bill can enjoy life and the grandkids, knowing that they have made a difference in the world