Hillary Democrats are the heart and conscience of America.

[AngryAmish]

"Hillary Democrats are the heart and conscience of America. They cast a vote for compassion, inclusion, justice, and equality – the values that make America great. It is a travesty that they continue to be treated with disdain and disrespect."

https://verrit.com/hillary-democrats-are-the-heart-and-conscience-of-america/

read the whole thing

[NurseJackie]

1. A travesty indeed. (Thanks for posting this.)

[melanctha]

68. 10000000000x

[leftstreet]

2. Verrit? n/t

[Tavarious Jackson]

5. Get use to seeing it a lot

It's fact based.

[leftstreet]

8. Is she running again?

Why else would we need to 'get used to see it a lot?'

[Tavarious Jackson]

13. Would Hillary ever stop?

Would she?

[Ninsianna]

99. What is with this need to see a Democratic leader who got stuff done

sit down and shut up while non-Democrats who keep failing to lead and get anything done and are applauded when they so much as fart?

Hillary shouldn't stop, we have a whole lot of shit to fix, and we need leadership to do that.

[Tavarious Jackson]

102. I agree.

Knowing Hillary it is ignorant to think anyone or anything would ever make her stop. Ilove that about her

[m-lekktor]

20. "it's fact based"

uh huh.

[QC]

71. It's got electrolytes.

They're what plants crave.

[Tavarious Jackson]

104. Doesn't Bernie have several of his own

electrolyte websites/message boards?

[m-lekktor]

18. Peter Daou runs it.

'nuff said.

[leftstreet]

22. Oh

[Hortensis]

87. "Oh"? I like Verritt already for its enemies. Cyberattack immediately on opening

was like a personal invitation. I'm a liberal, progressive Democrat, and if my enemies are anxious to shut it down, I'm in.

As in, Ohhh!

[Demsrule86]

29. Sort of how I feel about the Nation these days.

[stevenleser]

30. The only reason any Democrat would roll their eyes at him is if you want to refight the primary. nt

[melman]

34. Is that so?

Was Daou a candidate?

[stevenleser]

49. I think you have me confused with someone who wants to play games. Nt

[melman]

54. No

I'm not confused at all. I know exactly who you are.

[QC]

70. Or if one is aware of his Phalangist militia days in Lebanon. n/t

[VermontKevin]

46. Yes. Verrit. News for us.

[leftstreet]

48. It's just weird to make a Hillary fan site now

Nothing wrong with it if that's what people want

It's just, uh...kinda late

[VermontKevin]

50. Nobody is going to force you to read it.

[Hortensis]

62. It's not just a Hill "fan site." It's a pro- Democrat site, saying what needs to be said

about us.

WE ARE the descendants of the founders of and carriers of the flame of our democratic republic. All men are created equal and entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Government of, by and for the people. Equality and justice for all.

That's us. We are an incredibly wide coalition of the peoples of America, not perfect but in all eras, no matter what party label, always the ones who have worked to advance the right and wellbeing of We the People.

We don't soak up vicious lies like people continually fighting withdrawal from Kool-Aid, we don't manufacture fake hurricanes or believe in them, we don't serve malignant, antigovernment kleptocrats, we don't try to use government as a weapon against other Americans, and we don't elect depraved, mentally disordered buffoons.

It's starting with Hill because we're far from getting over what happened, when people think Democratic Party these days they think of her, and it's way past time to talk about the real person, to let people know who she is, sparkle, dreams, normal real-person warts, and all.

Our top candidate in 2016 was actually not just an extremely hardworking, knowledgeable, competent, liberal, progressive Democrat, but a church woman who prides herself on her ethics (really!) and whose desire to serve took her remarkably far beyond the progressive church activities she participated in as a teenager. How many people know that?!

It's way, way past time to be start talking about our leaders as the real people they are, about all who are no longer visible as real people behind the wall of poisonous mud thrown up by opponents (including US), and about our achievements and goals with pride.

[brer cat]

88. Excellent post, Hortensis.

[jalan48]

65. A bit cult like it seems to me.

[mcar]

84. ...

[Hortensis]

86. Lol. DU has some people vulnerable to personality cultism, but I'm afraid

they're likely to be disappointed if they expect to find it on any site Hillary endorses.

She's really, eternally an enthusiastic policy wonk.

"Stop cheering, and listen! Solar cells on every home, and this is how we'll do it:..." As we all know, she's kind of the Anti-Cult, but definitely my kind of candidate.

[George II]

77. Verrit is not a "Hillary fan site", but Hillary Clinton is a fan of Veritt.

[Tavarious Jackson]

3. Thank you for posting this

It annoys me when people say she needs to shut up. I've been with Hillary decades and well enough to know it is IGNORANT to think she will stop and go away. Not until her death! She's worked her buns off for our country, even getting Bill elected after a 12 year republican reign. Hillary won't stop, no matter what the men with hair buns say.

[MineralMan]

4. Hillary Democrats are just people who voted for the Democratic nominee

last November. In 2020, they'll be voting for someone else, probably. They are not Hillary Democrats. They are just Democrats. Democrats vote for Democrats.

No candidate owns Democrats, nor are Democrats tied to just one candidate.

[Tavarious Jackson]

6. Except she has a revolution

I've been following her since before she met Bill

[melman]

33. Really?

You've been following her since the 60s? How exactly is that?

[Tavarious Jackson]

45. She was a public figure since NIXON

You didn't know?

http://urbanmyths.com/urban-myths/urban-myths-news/fact-or-fiction-was-hillary-clinton-fired-from-watergate-investigation/

[JHan]

53. you serious?

[Bradshaw3]

11. Thank you

This need for some to tie themselves to one politician whoever that may be - Hillary, Bernie, even Obama - is not the way to bring about real change. This is supposed to be a democracy, where we the people have control over our government. Celebrity type worship of politicians is counterproductive.

[KitSileya]

108. Kennedy Democrats, Kerry Democrats, Wellstone Democrats, Obama Democrats, Bernie Democrats -

all are ok, but Hillary Democrats are not, of course. I wonder what the difference is? ...I just can't put my finger on it.

[Bradshaw3]

109. Reading comprehension is a problem for some on here

I wrote that hero worship of ANY politician is not good - then listed three MALE politicians including Obama and Bernie who should not be worshipped - and you turn that into me saying that "Obama Democrats, Bernie Democrats are OK".
WOW. What I wrote was not that hard to follow. But everything MUST be misogyny, right? Even when it's not. Try rereading what I wrote and then respond with some thought and reason not just an untrue smear.

[JHB]

111. [phone]

[BeyondGeography]

7. Hillary Democrats never got a dinner?

[awesomerwb1]

9. How about we stop this nonsense of

Hillary Democrats, Berniecrats. You're either a Democrat or a fan club member of either of the two.

If you were too stupid to vote for Dump or not vote Democratic, F you. Now we have a great chance to do good things in 2018. If we don't wise up, we'll blow it -again- and the country, the world and the planet will be worse off. THINK.

[dchill]

14. +1000!

[SharonClark]

15. Agree 100%

I supported Hillary but I'm a Democrat, not a Hillary Democratic. There is too much s/hero worship around here.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

32. Thank you.

"Hillary Democrats, Berniecrats. You're either a Democrat or a fan club member of either of the two." Well put. I voted for Hillary and was happy to do it. I was originally a Bernie supporter but never a "fan." I supported him only because his positions were closer to what I believed. One thing I do not believe in is hero-worshipping politicians - any of them, ever. Hillary would have been a fine president and it is becoming more and more obvious that her loss was a disaster for the country. But to set her on a pedestal and blather on about "Hillary Democrats" being the only true and worthy Democrats is ridiculous and destructive. We have to work together or we're screwed.

[SHRED]

105. Bingo

[disillusioned73]

10. I voted for Hillary..

but I'll continue to be an FDR Democrat, thank you very much

[MineralMan]

12. FDR died before you were born. He died before I was born.

He was a good President for his time, but not in every way. He did a number of things for which he would be roundly criticized and condemned had he done them today.

Most people know only partial information about FDR, because he lived before their times. He was not a Christ-like figure. He was not what would be called a true progressive today.

FDR was President at a specific time in history. He did well for that time. If he were alive today and ran for President on his platform and record from his time as President, he would lose.

[SharonClark]

16. Thank you.

[MineralMan]

41. He did, but his ideas wouldn't fly today,

and some of them are far from how we see things now. Again, I doubt that you really know all there is to know about FDR. If you did, you would understand what I'm saying.

As for having read enough from me, I promise I won't get mad if you put me on Ignore.

[George II]

78. I've said similar many times around here. He was a great president who pulled the country.....

....and the world out of the worst depression in history. But many of the things he implemented (not all, I'll say that before I get bashed about Social Security and FICA, among others) not only wouldn't fly but would be out of place in 2017 America.

[Expecting Rain]

44. Right. FDR was an internationalist who believed the US should use its military might...

to beat the fascists and he opposed the nativist isolationists of his day.

FDR was an optimist who worked to unite the country and he opposed the populist demogogues that tried to divide our country through fear-mongering, pessimism, scapegoating, and appeals to class-warfare.

FDR opposed populists like Huey "Share the Wealth/Every Man A King" Long who preached simple solutions to complex problems and relied on demonizing the rich. FDR called Huey Long the 2nd most dangerous man in American politics (Douglass McArthur being number one).

FDR worked to liberalize trade and to undo the protectionist economic isolation of his populist opponents.

FDR believed in the ideals of economic liberalism and embraced reforms designed to save our economic system from populist attacks on both fronts.

For all these stands FDR was attacked as a plutocratic capitalist by the populist-nativists of his day.

I'm proud to be an FDR Democrat.

[Tavarious Jackson]

57. It was for whites only and do not forget what he did to the Jews and Japanese

C'mon. For his time he was alright but not perfect

[JHan]

59. mineralman is correct.

FDR was born of wealth, and his populist impulses are vastly overstated today. Many don't know the full story of FDR, which doesn't diminish what he managed to accomplish but selectively creating myths about him don't provide a complete picture of who he was or the times he lived.

[melanctha]

72. Putting Japanese in camps, passing on anti lynching measures, excluding blacks from SS,

not allowing jews safe harbor... The list is mind boggle ling. The status of white (northern European) Americans improved immensely. America has never been an all white nation. What else? Surely you jest. Progessivism , if that's what you want to call it, was built on white supremacy. Democrats have evolved to include all Americans. We are better together.

[JHan]

89. +++++++ great post. Unfortunately FDR is used as a cudgel..

A cudgel to bash modern democrats, that's the motivation behind the myth making.

[disillusioned73]

85. Well said..

odd times around here..

[Caliman73]

40. 100% true.

FDR and the politicians that supported his agenda are responsible for a good deal of the social infrastructure we have today, but they were just the politicians of their time with all of the failings. They did some pretty awful things too.

Democrats are people who support all or most of the party's policy platform. That is all. Democrats as a party, try to pick the politicians that best promote the party and the platform. When people start to identify with one person as the "real" then the party becomes irrelevant and the policies become irrelevant.

We want a politician that can garner support because of the way they articulate Democratic Values, but the problem with many Democratic voters is that if it isn't the exact person they like, the superstar, then they get upset and refuse to participate.

[melman]

42. FDR is a Democratic icon

And one of the greatest presidents of all time. It's popular to bash him here but that doesn't make it right.

It's not right. It's bullshit.

[MineralMan]

43. I'm not bashing him. I never bash him.

I am pointing out that who he was was right for the times. Not everything he did was progressive. It's important to look at him in an honest, factual way and not to exaggerate who he was, focusing only on some of the things he did.

Reality and hindsight are often two different things.

[Eliot Rosewater]

66. It isnt bashing to point out that many who throw FDR's name around dont

know much about him, nothing wrong with doing that.

He was the greatest in many ways, which is why the GOP changed the rules to get rid of him, but using his name to now somehow support the idea of supporting this person or that, makes no sense given the vast differences in time.

And the reality that race is NOW an issue, and it wasnt then. White folks made sure it wasnt.

[Demsrule86]

93. No man is perfect. President Roosevelt saved the Republic and the economy.

However, he did not stop the lynching, he incarcerated the Japanese and he was against public unions. He was still a great president for his times. But we can not limit ourselves to his views and policies as we live in a different time.

[Ninsianna]

98. He's also the guy who put Japanese people in internment camps.

It's popular to idolize these old white men, while conveniently forgetting what they got up to and ignoring their crimes. It's not right and it's bullshit.

[JI7]

106. Referring to Japanese Internment and other things he did is not bashing.

[disillusioned73]

82. I didn't expect al this..

folks worked up about me saying I'm an "FDR Democrat".. which is more of and idea in the broad sense of how he steered our country in the right direction with progressive policie (of that time, yes), they called him a socialist and in some ways that was an apt descriptions.. he fought the robber barons, the "economic royalist" as he put it of his time.. we now refer to them as corporatists and unfortunatley we have been losing that class war for a long time..

So, even with his warts his legacy lives on, conservatives love to chop down that legacy - they say, he did little to end the Great Deppression, they say his policies extended it.. it's bullshit and I don't expect to see that crap here on DU, but I guess as time passes, people need new monikers to call themselves & if u wish to be called a "Hillary Democrat" then by all means have at it.. I'll stick with FDR/ Johnson/ JFK... for now

[Demsrule86]

94. I love Roosevelt...he was a great man and president for all his warts as you put it.

But his legacy is the past, it is not a road map for the future.

[TeapotInATempest]

17. Seriously, what is wrong with people?

From the link:

"Verrit was met with an entirely predictable response from Clinton’s detractors: rage, abuse, bullying, mockery. Within an hour of her tweet, a denial-of-service attack took the site down temporarily. Message board forums sprouted with users openly plotting to hack the site. Tech writers with an anti-Clinton bent focused on everything except Verrit’s stated purpose: To provide rigorously vetted information and analysis for people who are marginalized and threatened whenever they speak up."

There is no rational reason for this response. None at all.

Go ahead and tell me how there is no misogyny involved. I'll be waiting.

[CloudsInMyCoffee]

19. DEMOCRATS are the heart and conscience of America

There, fixed it for you!

[Demsrule86]

28. Ah but those who call themselves Democrats and did not vote for Hillary Clinton( those who were

not physically or mentally handicapped) have no heart nor a conscience.

[CloudsInMyCoffee]

52. I'll agree with that! :)

[Demsrule86]

95. Democrats who voted for the Democratic nominee are the heart and conscience of America.

Because if you didn't vote for Clinton you have no soul nor do you have a heart.

[milestogo]

21. I know some "Howard Dean" democratS who say the same thing.

[m-lekktor]

23. Hillary Democrats? how exclusive. nt

[Demsrule86]

25. Those who didn't voter for her should never call themselves Democrats as they are no such thing.

Anyone who voted for Hillary is included in the Hillary Democrats...in my opinion, a person who did not vote for Hillary Clinton should fuck off. I am not including you...as of course you voted for the Democratic candidate ...just in general.

[melman]

36. Unfortunately for you

you don't get to decide that. Unless of course someone made you the Boss of all Democrats. Did they? Are you the boss?

[Eliot Rosewater]

63. Decide what that you have to vote for Democrats to be seriously considered a Democrat?

Nobody is "deciding" that, just common sense.

[Demsrule86]

91. Yes it is and it is mind boggling that in the age of Trump some still want to arrange the deck

chairs on the Titanic...

[Demsrule86]

96. Well they can call themselves whatever they choose but those who did not vote for Hillary Clinton

are not Democrats...and have no heart and no soul.

[meadowlander]

75. I voted for her, but I'm not a Hillary Democrat.

So, I suspect, did hundreds of thousands of other Democrats who would have rather seen a different candidate, but accepted the outcome of the primary.

And now we're not part of "the heart and conscious of America" anymore? Get stuffed.

What exactly is this supposed to be accomplishing, other than self-congratulatory fluffing for Hillary supporters and driving a deeper wedge into the left?

[Demsrule86]

90. If you voted for her, you are part of the 'Hillary Democrats' which the author defiined

as those who voted for Hillary...as for getting 'stuffed'...I think you should read TOS once again...no reason to post that to me.

[MrsCoffee]

112. Speaking of wedges...

I hope you don't fall off that horse, it's a long way down.

[Demsrule86]

24. this is so true...we voted to save LGBTQ rights, a woman's right to choose, to feed the poor and

keep health insurance, to save Transgender rights, the civil rights act,help kids with college debt,not create more wars and to end income inequality to name a few reasons why we voted for Hillary Clinton...the Democratic candidate.

[haveahart]

26. At last! A media outlet for us (real Democrats).

It seems to be a place where Democrats can post ideas for helping people. Hope it can keep the hackers and infiltrators away.

[jalan48]

27. USA! USA!

[samnsara]

31. yes we are..........

[Binkie The Clown]

37. And all other Democrats are the enemy!

It's no wonder the human species is going extinct. We can't grow beyond tribalism. My tribe yay! Your tribe eat shit and die.

[Eliot Rosewater]

64. What? Can you name ONE actual Democratic politician, with a D after their name

who has been called the enemy here by mainstream Democrats?

Now I can point to lots of progressives who routinely attack Democrats, but not otherwise.

[Binkie The Clown]

73. "Democratic politician" is one thing. "Democrat" is another.

Plenty of registered Democrats here on DU have been branded "the enemy" for their support of one or another person or policy that puts them at odds with some other DU tribe.

So don't claim that I said something I didn't say, and then condemn for for saying it when I didn't.

[Demsrule86]

92. Since the author defined 'Hillary democrats' as those Democrats who voted for Hillary Clinton the

Democratic nominee...one can certainly consider that those 'Democrats' who didn't vote for her made themselves the enemy. I would not consider them Democrats.

[dembotoz]

39. and all this time i thought public masturbation was frowned on

[0rganism]

47. would that make Trumpublicans the penis and id of America?

if the analogy fits...

[mythology]

51. The whining about how beset upon some Clinton supporters are has gotten old

I voted for Clinton in the GE (I didn't vote for any of the candidates in the primary because I saw very little difference between the candidates and was happy to vote for any of them) and I've never felt attacked for that.

Perhaps the ones claiming to be picked on aren't being objective about how they treat others. For example there have been loads of posts from Clinton primary supporters blaming Sanders for Clinton losing. That has provoked a response, but it's hardly fair to pretend those supporters are being picked on since they were the aggressors.

[Tavarious Jackson]

60. It's not just HRC suppporters who blaming people

When has Bernie or his supporters accepted blame for his loss?

[LisaM]

61. I think it's a larger point - that even though Hillary voters were the majority in both the GE

and the primary, they (we, I guess) seem to be the ones asked to do the most soul-searching and make the most concessions now.

I don't know much about the Verrit site, but I will say having to self-flagellate over supporting a candidate who beat both her male opponents by millions of votes is getting old.

If we don't address the electoral process, this will never end.

[Gothmog]

55. Agreed

[left-of-center2012]

56. Oh, I don't know.

I'm more of an Al Franken kind of Democrat.

[PoliticAverse]

58. But Obama Democrats were apparently heartier as they represented more votes. n/t

[Autumn]

67. I like Hillary, caucused for her in 08 caucused for Bernie in 16. Never voted for a Republican

in my life. Always the Dem. Didn't care who they were, the D was what counted, never sat out an election either. I'm not a Hillary Democrat, wouldn't want to be one. I consider any Democrat and any person who votes and sides with the Democratic platform and values, registered as a Dem or an Indy to be the heart and conscience of America.

[meadowlander]

76. Thank you.

It's not that hard is it?

[Autumn]

79. Not at all. I like Democrats, non Democrats who stand with them, and most Democratic politicians.

But I sure as shit am not about to refrain from voicing my opinion on their actions if I disagree with those actions.

[Jamaal510]

74. K&R

[lunamagica]

80. Hear hear! That's the truth. Thank you!

:

[all american girl]

81. YEAH!!!!!! Thank you very much

[RhodeIslandOne]

83. Ok

Look she wasn't my first choice. I don't need an award. It was a pretty easy choice against that con man in the WH.

[Stinky The Clown]

100. Proud, enthusiastic and now disappointed HRC voter here, waving hand

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

101. Democrats are the heart and conscience of America.

[Beacool]

103. I have admired Hillary since she became first lady.

Bill was the first person I ever voted for president. They were different from the old people I had previously seen in the WH. They were young, energetic and Hillary was the smartest first lady I had seen in my lifetime. I still think that she's one of the smartest people around. I like her, she is a survivor and is still standing after years of personal and professional attacks.

Therefore, I don't give a flying fig who doesn't like her. To me, she'll always be one of the best presidents that we never had.

[Egnever]

107. Obama Democrats are the heart and soul of the Dem party.

[shanny]

110. the only real Americans, I suppose.