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ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 11:39 PM Sep 2017

My Trump-Loving Aunt Just Posted Some BS. Help Me Smack It Down.

She just posted some BS meme about how #Dolt45 is giving $1 million of HIS OWN MONEY to the Harvey relief effort, and then it gives a little dig at the bottom about, "You don't see the Obamas, the Clintons, or any of the rich Democrats in Congress doing that."

I know that they're already backing off of their own story that the $1 million is coming out of his own personal money, but does anyone have any info on how much the Obamas, Clintons, et al. have given? Because if I know the Obamas OR the Clintons AT ALL, I know for a fact they've given. Can anyone help me smack this bull excrement down?

By the way, this particular Aunt is a real scumbag who I won't even associate with in person. She spent several years living with and taking care of my grandparents (instead of working, by the way), and after they died, we found out that she'd been scamming them out of all their money right up to and beyond their deaths. She even took valuable family heirlooms and hid them from the rest of the family and then claimed she never saw them. After my grandparents died and she had lost her meal ticket, her last act before moving back to Arizona (oh, and by the way, she often talks about how she lived in Maricopa County and LOVED Sheriff Joe Assholio) was to give a fake forwarding address to all my grandparents' remaining creditors, essentially defrauding them out of money they were owed from my grandparents' estate (my dad found out about it and ratted her out). Now she's apparently "found Jesus" and is a hardcore RWer and religious kook. She still doesn't work. She lives with her daughter and fakes having fibromyalgia so she can get a disability check every month. A real "walk it like you talk it" RWer, as you can see, right? So you can see why I want to shut her up so badly.

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My Trump-Loving Aunt Just Posted Some BS. Help Me Smack It Down. (Original Post) ChoppinBroccoli Sep 2017 OP
Is it really worth the effort? You won't change her mind, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #1
ask her if trump is so great orleans Sep 2017 #2
First of all madaboutharry Sep 2017 #3
Guaranteed to be a waste of your time. dalton99a Sep 2017 #4
Obama Donated Over $1 Million To Charity As President. elleng Sep 2017 #5
Obama released his tax returns while he was President VMA131Marine Sep 2017 #6
The Clinton Foundation Leith Sep 2017 #7
All of Clintons tax returns are still on her website marylandblue Sep 2017 #8
Give the above and ask her to provide the same proof that Trum has ever given a dime to any charity, Thor_MN Sep 2017 #19
and really a million dollars??? isn't he supposed to worth billions??? a kennedy Sep 2017 #9
Tell her it is like her giving $10 Hamlette Sep 2017 #17
just tell her that nothing else he has ever said was the truth, so why believe this? NRaleighLiberal Sep 2017 #10
I haven't heard what the Obamas or Clintons may have donated dflprincess Sep 2017 #11
Crazy Aunt Kajun Gal Sep 2017 #12
He promised to give 1 million for Hurricane Sandy and NEVER gave anything! Quixote1818 Sep 2017 #13
This Tweet perfectly captures how one should view Trump's promise. Bleacher Creature Sep 2017 #14
BLOCK, that's what it's for A-Schwarzenegger Sep 2017 #15
Forget it. Aristus Sep 2017 #16
Well, lets see, Rincewind Sep 2017 #18

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
1. Is it really worth the effort? You won't change her mind,
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 11:43 PM
Sep 2017

no matter what facts you offer. I have a SIL like that, and finally I just stopped responding to her bullshit entirely. People like that aren't worth the heartburn they produce.

orleans

(34,052 posts)
2. ask her if trump is so great
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 11:44 PM
Sep 2017

why is he only "saying" he'll give 1 million (he hasn't done it yet btw)
when he was willing to cough up 5 million for obama's birth certificate

(google it)

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
3. First of all
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 11:47 PM
Sep 2017

the White House backed up on where the donation was coming from, Sarah Sanders side stepped the questions about it.

Secondly, she has no knowledge of who is giving what. Many people choose not to announce donations and quietly give.

This lady sounds hopeless to me. You would probably be wasting your time trying to reason with her.

VMA131Marine

(4,139 posts)
6. Obama released his tax returns while he was President
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 11:48 PM
Sep 2017

and probably for many years before. In 2014, the Obama's donated 14.8% of their $477,383 AGI to charity. You should be able to search for the other years.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
7. The Clinton Foundation
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 11:50 PM
Sep 2017

Gives money for health issues and economic development.

Ask your aunt what tRump did for Haiti or AIDS in Africa.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
8. All of Clintons tax returns are still on her website
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 11:51 PM
Sep 2017

For 2015, they gave about $1,000,000 out of a gross income of $10,000,000. So we know exactly what they gave. We've never seen Trump's returns, so we don't know his income or how much he actually contributed. David Farenthold did a great article on Trump doesn't give money he promises to give. But if Trump's claimed wealth of $10 billion is correct, if he donated just 1% of that per year, that would be $100 million and you'd think that amount of money would show up somewhere.


https://www.hillaryclinton.com/page/tax-returns/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-boasts-of-his-philanthropy-but-his-giving-falls-short-of-his-words/2016/10/29/b3c03106-9ac7-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html?utm_term=.b112eab46f1a

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
19. Give the above and ask her to provide the same proof that Trum has ever given a dime to any charity,
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 06:42 AM
Sep 2017

from his own money. Trump Foundation money does not count, that is other people's money, laundered into Trump's own pockets via payments to his golf courses for "charity" events.

Trump does not give to charity, he believes he himself is much more worthy of the money.

a kennedy

(29,663 posts)
9. and really a million dollars??? isn't he supposed to worth billions???
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 11:55 PM
Sep 2017

So why did he ONLY give a million?? Ask her that?? Ugh.....billionaires only giving a million dollars...... They should be giving at least 10 million.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
17. Tell her it is like her giving $10
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 12:32 AM
Sep 2017

I read that his donation if he makes it, would be like a family makin &100,000 giving $100. So if she is on disability it is like $10. A good thing to do but hardly heroic.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
10. just tell her that nothing else he has ever said was the truth, so why believe this?
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 11:59 PM
Sep 2017

by the way - there is likely no way to reach true trumpers. they are lost...they are gone.

dflprincess

(28,078 posts)
11. I haven't heard what the Obamas or Clintons may have donated
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 12:08 AM
Sep 2017

but then, they probably don't feel the need to brag about it like Trump does.

Rincewind

(1,203 posts)
18. Well, lets see,
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 05:47 AM
Sep 2017

trump promised to donate $1 million to the VA. They never saw a dime. He also promised to donate $1 million to hurricane Sandy relief. They never saw a dime. So, it don't look too good for Harvey relief.

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