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in 2018 when we get control will we (Original Post) bluestarone Sep 2017 OP
First we need to win SHRED Sep 2017 #1
Uhhhh, does the phrase PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #2
does the phrased bluestarone Sep 2017 #4
Counting your chickens before they are hatched PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #8
Make voting free and counted elections should be easier and accessible to all Americans kimbutgar Sep 2017 #3
we probably will not get control, and if we do... SoCalDem Sep 2017 #5
this is bluestarone Sep 2017 #6
+1 leftstreet Sep 2017 #9
If things go well in 2018 customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #7
The governors races and legislatures are equally important. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #11
True, but customerserviceguy Sep 2017 #12
There is a gerrymander case at SCOTUS now. It includes a method for determining whether Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #13
I hear this sort of thing all the time...I sincerely hope we win...I dream about it. I can almost Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #10

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,858 posts)
8. Counting your chickens before they are hatched
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 02:08 AM
Sep 2017

is not an example of positive thinking. It's an example of delusional thinking.

And Democrats taking back control of anything is highly unlikely in 2018. That's just being realistic, althoughI do hope I'm wrong.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
5. we probably will not get control, and if we do...
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 10:45 PM
Sep 2017

our fearless leaders will do what they always do..

move on

let bygones be bygones

not "waste time" pursuing past offenses"

you know...what we always do..

we drop the ball...

do a "let's all be friends",

and wait for the stab in the back that always comes from our opponents..

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. If things go well in 2018
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 01:26 AM
Sep 2017

we won't get the control until 2019, so I have to ask you to reconsider your OP.

Second, I have a feeling that there will be greater polarization (yes, I really believe that's possible) in the Congress. Trump will finance primary campaigns against GOP'ers who have not bowed sufficiently to him, and some of those challengers will be successful, and some of them will be in districts that cannot elect a Democratic representative, at least not until after the 2020 Census.

Clearly, we will try to elect people who are dead set in opposing the Trump agenda, even more so than the Democratic members we have now. It will probably mean another two years of even more acrimonious deadlock, but that's what it takes to get through to the 2020 election, when we hopefully have a presidential candidate who can win a majority of Electoral College votes.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
12. True, but
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 07:15 PM
Sep 2017

as far as legislatures go, we are still stuck with whatever gerrymandering took place after the 2010 Census. I do hope that we'll have some pickups in 2018, as a number of states skew their elections for governor to not coincide with the presidential election years.

We're in for a tough time of political stagnation for quite some time, I'm afraid.

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
13. There is a gerrymander case at SCOTUS now. It includes a method for determining whether
Sun Sep 3, 2017, 07:39 AM
Sep 2017

a district is gerrymandered. Kennedy always said he would vote to end gerrymandering if there was a formula to determine if a district was gerrymandered...I think it could happen. We will know in June. In any case,gerrymanders don't last forever. And this one is showing signs of slipping in some areas. If we get governorships, we can stop them from continuing to gerrymander....we face another ten years if we don't. The census is coming in 20.

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Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
10. I hear this sort of thing all the time...I sincerely hope we win...I dream about it. I can almost
Sat Sep 2, 2017, 07:06 AM
Sep 2017

taste it. With a normal electorate, we would be looking at a wave election, but we are still gerrymandered. Thus I hope we can pull it out, but it is going to take all hands on deck to win. We have to get out their and work for 18 and fight. If we could get the Senate, it would be great. Now if we have a wave election, we might see the Democrats keep all seats and maybe gain a couple. Although as others have pointed out...the Senate is not in our favor. If we could manage the Senate though, we could stop anymore right wing appointments which would be a huge victory...and of course if we lose seats, we lose Obamacare.

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