Rachel: Joy talking about how they stole the election by hacking voter reg databases and keeping

[Amaryllis]

people from voting.
I've been saying since last SUMMER when they reported that half the states voter reg databases had been hacked by Russians that they didn't do it just to prove they could.
NYT has new article on this.
Joy going into detail on this.
Interviewing Verified Voting Foundation election specialist. Glad to see this org getting some press; they do excellent work.

Link to NYT article she referenced:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/politics/russia-election-hacking.html
This is a must-read article; very important.
Russian Election Hacking Efforts, Wider Than Previously Known, Draw Little Scrutiny

The assaults on the vast back-end election apparatus — voter-registration operations, state and local election databases, e-poll books and other equipment — have received far less attention than other aspects of the Russian interference, such as the hacking of Democratic emails and spreading of false or damaging information about Mrs. Clinton. Yet the hacking of electoral systems was more extensive than previously disclosed, The New York Times found.

Edited to add:
Then there are the hundreds of thousands purged with Kobach's Interstate Crosscheck, used by 30 states. Who needs to change vote tallies when you have the GOP and the Russians working together to suppress the vote.

[edhopper]

1. Blaming Hilary for being a "bad" candidate

is like blaming a poker player for losing when the other guy is palming Aces.

[StevieM]

8. Agreed. Nobody could overcome what Comey and the FBI did to her, setting aside the Russians. (eom)

[edhopper]

10. plus

voter suppression in WI and MI.

[uponit7771]

2. Dallas county alone had been minimum ... pinged by 7 Russian IP address's that were black listed

... whether or not they got into any systems isn't known.

I wonder who rights all of VR systems code

[Amaryllis]

3. I heard 17, not seven...not sure which one of us mis-heard.

[uponit7771]

5. There were 17 pings by black listed IPs but 7 of them were Russian IP address's. Either way ...

... they were trying to get in to micro purge.

Also, I had NO IDEA that VR systems had been hacked by the Russians ... that's smoking gun evidence the election was hacked.

When Russia deniers say "how" just say micro purging of the voter roles seeing VR systems and 2 other voter role systems were hacked by the Russians as NYT is reporting.

I never knew it was confirmed that these systems were broken into until tonight

[Amaryllis]

9. It's been reported before, but it's like the NYT article said; little attention has been paid to it.

[uponit7771]

11. Yes, you're right ... I thought these were "attempts" ... seems like this who issue has been ...

... paged.

Now when someone asked "how did they change votes" one can technically say by not letting eligible Americans vote.

I'm blown away, this is some smoking gun shit.

This is the same way Bush 2 stole 2001; by purging 20,000 votes ...everyone paid attention to chads and shit but the real issue was 20,000 purged mostly dem voters from voter roles in a single area.

These are some bastards !!!!

[Amaryllis]

14. That is exactly how Bushstole 2000. And they did massive purging in FL in 2004 as well, plus the

Ohio hack with SOS Ken Blackwell, chair of the Bush re-election campaign, helping out.
They kept saying vote totals were not changed last summer but they were; by keeping people from voting.

[uponit7771]

17. I wouldn't doubt the Russians helped Bush in 2004 ... notice how high gas prices were when Bush

... was president?

That helps Russia ... I woudn't put anything past the KGOP these days, they have no party seeing they've isolated every demographic but white males ... well, white females too ... I don't see how they voted for Red Don.

[Amaryllis]

21. OMG. YOu are right. I never thought about that.

[brush]

33. It's pretty obvious now. They calculated just how many votes to suppress, just as they...

calculated which states to do it in to swing the Electoral College to trump.

77,000 was the number and they hit it.

[DeltaLitProf]

41. Do we know how many affidavit votes were cast in the areas in question?

If an unusual number of votes were cast on affidavits, that would mean that voters were indeed purged from the rolls in large numbers.

[uponit7771]

44. They most likely got rid of them by now, that's a good question

[mucifer]

4. Makes me feel so powerless. I had to turn off the tv.

[oasis]

6. Verified Voting Foundation.

[Amaryllis]

12. Get on their email list here:

https://www.verifiedvoting.org/
THey have been screaming about security for years. So glad to see Joy interviewing Susan. They do such impressive work.

[oasis]

15. Thanks.

[L. Coyote]

7. Targeted effect clearly visible.

We have a lot of news today:

The Voting News
Editorials: »In Election Interference, It’s What Reporters Didn’t Find That Matters | Nicole Perlroth/The New York Times - Sep 1, 2017
National: »Russian Election Hacking Efforts, Wider Than Previously Known, Draw Little Scrutiny | The New York Times - Sep 1, 2017
National: »Evidence of Russian Election-Data Tampering Mounts as Urgency to Investigate It Does Not | Slate - Sep 1, 2017
Texas: »Trump's Justice Department wants Texas to keep invalidated voter ID law | The Texas Tribune - Sep 1, 2017
Alabama: »Lawsuit challenging racial makeup of Alabama courts moves forward | AL.com - Sep 1, 2017

[L. Coyote]

13. Also NY Times: In Election Interference, Its What Reporters Didnt Find That Matters

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/insider/in-election-interference-its-what-reporters-didnt-find-that-matters.html

The story started, as many do, with our own confusion.

The most unusual of presidential elections — one marred by Russian trolls, a digital Watergate-style break-in and the winning candidate’s dire warnings of a “rigged election” — was followed by the most unusual period of acceptance. In the immediate aftermath of the 2016 election, government officials, the Clinton campaign, intelligence analysts, and civic and legal groups all appeared to calmly accept claims that votes had not been hacked.

I had been on the cyber beat for six years and had grown accustomed to deep, often lengthy digital forensics analyses of cyberattacks against a wide range of targets: Silicon Valley start-ups, multinational conglomerates, government agencies and our own Times breach by Chinese government hackers. In the vast majority of cases, it takes investigators months or years to discover that hackers had indeed been lurking undetected on victims’ machines.

Yet American intelligence officials were adamant in a report in January — just two months after Election Day — that vote tallies had not been hacked. This despite the broad consensus among United States intelligence agencies that Russia interfered in the 2016 election through an extensive disinformation and propaganda campaign, as well as the hacking of electoral databases and websites, the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

My colleagues Michael Wines, Matthew Rosenberg and I set out to find out how government officials had nixed the possibility of vote hacking so readily. It was especially unclear to us given that officials at the Department of Homeland Security testified last fall that Russian hackers probed election systems in 21 states, with varying degrees of success, and that months later, a National Security Agency report found that Russian hackers had indeed successfully infiltrated VR Systems, an election service provider in eight states, including the battlegrounds North Carolina, Florida and Virginia.

As we dug more into our investigation, the more unresolved incidents we found. ..................

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

26. +1

[Red Mountain]

16. The only answer to the problem.....

is to encourage patriotic hackers who love Democracy to change the votes to zero (or infinity) anywhere and everywhere they can.

Hack the system. For America.

[TheFrenchRazor]

24. agreed; it will take a white-hat hack, revealed after the election, in order to get something done.

[questionseverything]

38. actually the answer is hand counted paper ballots

counted at the precinct level ,publicly over seen

then the result posted publically and dbl checked against the "official" spreadsheet

the electronic pollbooks themselves must be outlawed and voter suppression stopped, also

[msongs]

18. unfortunately the democratic party does not seem that concerned about all this nt

[Amaryllis]

19. Those following election infrastructure security, such as Verified Voting Foundation, have been

screaming about this since 2000 but it has been nearly impossible to get Dem leadership to pay attention. I have never been able to figure out why.

[triron]

22. Perhaps to protect the "pretension of democracy"?

Still does not add up though.

[Amaryllis]

23. They have said they dont want the voters to lose confidence in our elections. We'd all be a whole

lot more confident if they would talk about it openly AND about the action they are taking to remedy the situation. If they ever got to the point of taking action. Verified Voting is all ready to help. THey know exactly what needs to be done. Paper ballots and audits. They have a vast array of cyber security experts working with them.

[elleng]

28. What baloney (on 'party's' part.)

[dottie66]

42. That may have been why

Obama urged Hillary to concede to Trump on the night of the election.

[Amaryllis]

46. And why Gore conceded in 2000.

[edsmith2727]

40. why have i never heard of them before today?

[Amaryllis]

45. Those of us who got involved after Bush stole 2004 are very familiar with them. They are very

credible and have lots of cyber security people working with them. It's very hard to get traction from politicians on this issue.

[elleng]

27. As ever.

[m-lekktor]

29. The voter fraud conspirators allowed Obama to win twice so that could be why!

[L. Coyote]

35. Yes we are, you are reading about it aren't you.

Which party did you think we are?

[H2O Man]

20. Recommended.

Very important. Thank you for this.

[C Moon]

25. And the GOP is fine with it (for obvious reasons)...

but also because they probably believe, "Hey. We thought of it first."

[JoeOtterbein]

30. We need to repeat, over and over: "ALL elections must be with paper ballots and MUST be audited"...

...and over and over and over and.....

[not fooled]

31. And the powers that be

don't want the peasantry disturbed by thoughts of major institutional dysfunction, or that the leader of the nation was installed. Remember when the NYT buried the news of Gore's victory because they didn't want to cast doubt on chimpy's legitimacy?

There is no doubt that the KGOPee stole the presidency and very likely congressional seats as well. When there are trillions of dollars to be looted, who thinks that the pukes would stop at election fraud to get the payoff?

But, the corporate media will not cover this whole matter in enough depth to really make a difference, e.g. pressure congress into investigating and legislating to fix the problems with our voting. Hell, the pukes are gung ho to make elections even more problematic. And, the owners of the media benefit from puke policies. They want pukes in charge.

[flibbitygiblets]

32. K&R! This is starting to gain some traction finally

[Achilleaze]

34. Republican thieves and treason weasels

Deserve justice. Lock them up.

[Raastan]

36. K + R

[Botany]

37. It was a coup and we had treason.

n/t

[Dustlawyer]

39. The government was not going to even check either, nothing to see here!

I hope it turns out Kobach was involved as well.

[MaeScott]

43. Kicked