Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:42 PM Aug 2017

Mueller teams up with New York attorney general in Manafort probe

By JOSH DAWSEY 08/30/2017 07:26 PM EDT


Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team is working with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman on its investigation into Paul Manafort and his financial transactions, according to several people familiar with the matter.

The cooperation is the latest indication that the federal probe into President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman is intensifying. It also could potentially provide Mueller with additional leverage to get Manafort to cooperate in the larger investigation into Trump’s campaign, as Trump does not have pardon power over state crimes.


The two teams have shared evidence and talked frequently in recent weeks about a potential case, these people said. One of the people familiar with progress on the case said both Mueller’s team and Schneiderman’s have collected evidence on financial crimes, including potential money laundering.

No decision has been made on where or whether to file charges. “Nothing is imminent,” said one of the people familiar with the case.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/30/manafort-mueller-probe-attorney-general-242191

33 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Mueller teams up with New York attorney general in Manafort probe (Original Post) octoberlib Aug 2017 OP
that's where trump can't pardon, right ? JI7 Aug 2017 #1
Yep. I predict they'll find money -laundering all over the place. octoberlib Aug 2017 #8
yep grantcart Aug 2017 #13
If they cut funding for FinCEN IronLionZion Aug 2017 #32
Woo-effin'-hoo! Girard442 Aug 2017 #2
Slight modification DonaldsRump Aug 2017 #9
Why go after Cuomo for NY's AG working with Mueller? WePurrsevere Aug 2017 #11
For the Governor's pardoning powers over state crimes DonaldsRump Aug 2017 #15
Ahh.. ok. He can, and probably will, try but Gov Cuomo... WePurrsevere Aug 2017 #18
No pardons so maybe Manafort and pals will "flip" after they flip out. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #26
Robert Muellers team with NY Attorney General Eric Schneiderman's team.." will get him.." Stuart G Aug 2017 #3
It's Sing Sing Paulie Walnuts, it's Sing Sing. Sneederbunk Aug 2017 #4
Attica, Attica, Attica..... SergeStorms Aug 2017 #31
K & R malaise Aug 2017 #5
That's the best news of the day! Stinky The Clown Aug 2017 #6
I would be having stomach issues right now if I were Donnie Two Scoops!!! adigal Aug 2017 #7
I bet he's already having issues and it's causing some weight loss, IMHO ATL Ebony Aug 2017 #17
BIG ba-da-BOOM! Maeve Aug 2017 #10
Oh yeah! mcar Aug 2017 #12
I so want this to end with madokie Aug 2017 #14
This is what I reluctantly concluded, that many weren't aware disalitervisum Aug 2017 #16
Welcome to DU disalitervisum madokie Aug 2017 #21
"The two teams have shared evidence and talked frequently in recent weeks ....." L. Coyote Aug 2017 #19
The juiciest part of this is, these state crimes won't be limited to Trump alone Mr. Ected Aug 2017 #20
Great news! K&R highplainsdem Aug 2017 #22
Best news I've heard in ages. yardwork Aug 2017 #23
Yeah, Corgigal Aug 2017 #24
FUCK PARDONS!!! VermontKevin Aug 2017 #25
Think of the Meg Ryan in the deli scene from "When Harry Met Sally" dflprincess Aug 2017 #27
I love New York....... SergeStorms Aug 2017 #28
Much as I'd like this to be a sign of things to come.. X_Digger Aug 2017 #29
I can't believe that Mueller is going to this extent. I didn't foresee this... Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #30
K/R moondust Aug 2017 #33

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
8. Yep. I predict they'll find money -laundering all over the place.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:56 PM
Aug 2017

FinCen is also doing an investigation in Florida, New York etc on using real estate to launder money.


FinCEN Targets Shell Companies Purchasing Luxury Properties in Seven Major Metropolitan Areas


WASHINGTON—The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) today announced the issuance of revised Geographic Targeting Orders (GTOs) that require U.S. title insurance companies to identify the natural persons behind shell companies used to pay for high-end residential real estate in seven metropolitan areas. Following the recent enactment of the Countering America’s Adversaries through Sanctions Act, FinCEN is revising the GTOs to capture a broader range of transactions and include transactions involving wire transfers. FinCEN also expanded the GTOs to include transactions conducted in the City and County of Honolulu, Hawaii.

In addition, FinCEN today published an Advisory to provide financial institutions and the real estate industry with information on the money laundering risks associated with real estate transactions, including those involving luxury property purchased through shell companies, particularly when conducted without traditional financing. Such transactions are vulnerable to abuse by criminals seeking to launder illegal proceeds and mask their identities. The Advisory provides information on how to detect and report these transactions to FinCEN.

“Through this advisory and other outreach to the private sector, FinCEN, industry, and law enforcement will be better positioned to protect the real estate markets from serving as a vehicle to launder illicit proceeds,” said FinCEN Acting Director Jamal El-Hindi. “FinCEN also thanks Congress for its modification of the Geographic Targeting Order authority, the first use of which will enable FinCEN to collect further information to combat the potential misuse of shell companies to purchase luxury real estate.”

https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-targets-shell-companies-purchasing-luxury-properties-seven-major

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
9. Slight modification
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:57 PM
Aug 2017

Presidential pardoning power can also cover someone not convicted, and even not indicted. However, as you are absolutely correct in stating, the Buffoon cannot pardon for a state (i.e., non-federal) offense.

Very smart move by Mueller.

So do now we expect the Rethugs to launch a full frontal assault on NY Governor Cuomo?

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
11. Why go after Cuomo for NY's AG working with Mueller?
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:04 PM
Aug 2017

The NY attorney general is an elected, not selected, official. Cuomo can't fire him, only the taxpayers can on election day and that's probably not going to happen.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
15. For the Governor's pardoning powers over state crimes
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:09 PM
Aug 2017

The Buffoon in chief is capable of anything, much like a cornered rat.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
18. Ahh.. ok. He can, and probably will, try but Gov Cuomo...
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:31 PM
Aug 2017

won't take kindly to being threatened, has more than a few connections if needed and there's no love lost between Trump and Cuomo any more than there is between Trump and Schneiderman.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
3. Robert Muellers team with NY Attorney General Eric Schneiderman's team.." will get him.."
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:50 PM
Aug 2017

yes, they will get him..And I might add, it will not be pretty. So Trump broke state and federal laws....
...........more jail time for Jared...and Don the Con...

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
31. Attica, Attica, Attica.....
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:12 PM
Aug 2017

that's about 45 minutes away from me, so I'd dearly LOVE to have him nearby so I could visit the entire Trump family every once in a while.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
7. I would be having stomach issues right now if I were Donnie Two Scoops!!!
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:53 PM
Aug 2017

The NY Atty General has had Trump in his sights for quite some time. Mueller talking to him may mean charges Trump can't pardon!!!

madokie

(51,076 posts)
14. I so want this to end with
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:07 PM
Aug 2017

the orange anus in chains, please, pretty please. This cretin has done nothing but sowed hate and discontent for his whole life. We or many of us weren't aware of his many transgressions before he hit the escalator but I damn sure know the kind of person he is now.

Throw away the key when you all get him in the cell too, again Please

 

disalitervisum

(470 posts)
16. This is what I reluctantly concluded, that many weren't aware
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:19 PM
Aug 2017

Despite the fact that many of us spent months during the campaign trying to tell everyone what a despicable, sociopathic, lying, criminal, piece of shit this bloodsucking cockroach trump and his whole filthy family are and have been all of their worthless lives.

There are two salient facts known and to be known about trump:

1) HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ANYONE OR ANYTHING BUT HIMSELF

2) HE WANTS REVENGE ON THE WHOLE WORLD

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. "The two teams have shared evidence and talked frequently in recent weeks ....."
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:36 PM
Aug 2017

I'll bet two scoops you don't get to wear $40 caps in prison.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
20. The juiciest part of this is, these state crimes won't be limited to Trump alone
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 08:36 PM
Aug 2017

The whole damned Trump brood will be implicated. Ivanka. Junior. Eric. Jared. Sater. Manafort. Cohen. Et al.

These crimes will stretch back decades. They precede any Russia/election crimes. The former ultimately led to the latter, but these are 2 different sets of infractions.

The Trump syndicate was able to remain afloat because it stayed one step ahead of its nemeses. Its greatest error was submitting to politics, to the presidency, where its offenses were sure to see daylight.

Everything else you see or hear from the Trump camp is subterfuge. Money crimes and collusion are the only things on Trump's mind. Knowing his family is truly in the crosshairs is Trump's sole motivation. He has deflected, lied and incited, but only to draw attention away from the one thing that he knows in his own mind he has done, and he knows his family has done, and it's eating him alive.

Oh yeah, damned straight. He's going down. And so are his progeny.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
24. Yeah,
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:06 PM
Aug 2017

AKA fire me now bitches.

The whole Trump family needs to board a plane and go to a country that won't extradite.

dflprincess

(28,081 posts)
27. Think of the Meg Ryan in the deli scene from "When Harry Met Sally"
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:56 PM
Aug 2017

that was me when I heard the news; slamming my palm on my desk and repeatedly screaming "Yes!"

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
28. I love New York.......
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:01 PM
Aug 2017
I love New York

I have a feeling it may be New York State that prosecutes and imprisons Trump, his family, and all of Trump's henchmen. Schneiderman has had a hard on for Trump going back to 2013, when he started the many lawsuits against "Trump University".

So yeah, there's a bit of history between the two, and I'm sure Schneiderman would LOVE to take Trump down again. He doesn't seem to like phonies and con-men. Go figure!

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
29. Much as I'd like this to be a sign of things to come..
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:06 PM
Aug 2017

.. state AGs often participate in federal investigations without raising state charges.

State investigators are often the 'boots on the ground' in federal investigations. Ask anyone who's worked with the FBI or the Justice Department.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
30. I can't believe that Mueller is going to this extent. I didn't foresee this...
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:10 PM
Aug 2017

not that I have a crystal ball.

He must be onto something.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Mueller teams up with New...