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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 02:10 PM Aug 2017

President Trump Should Be Impeached for Pardoning Joe Arpaio



https://www.thenation.com/article/president-trump-should-be-impeached-for-pardoning-joe-arpaio/
Trump has enabled a racist to trash the Constitution and flout the rule of law.
By Ian Haney López -- 2017.08.26 10:45 am

Like Donald Trump, Joe Arpaio made his name in politics through aggressive race-baiting, repeatedly winning election as the Sheriff of Maricopa County, home to Phoenix, on that basis. Arpaio’s political strategy involved systematically going after the city’s Latino residents, using Latino appearance as the predominant reason for stopping and detaining people until they could prove their right to be in the United States.

Arpaio claimed his goal was to enforce immigration laws. But the pervasive targeting of folks based on their “Mexican” appearance made it clear that his deeper goal was to publicly stigmatize Latinos, citizens or otherwise, as perpetual foreigners in Arizona. In effect, he used racial harassment to grandstand politically.

In 2011, a federal court issued a stinging rebuke of Arpaio, making clear that the Constitution prohibits going after Latinos based on a presumption that we are in the country illegally. This sort of racial profiling, the court warned, was unconstitutional and had to stop.

Arpaio refused, and indeed made a point of flaunting his disdain. He ordered his officers to continue detaining and harassing people principally on the basis of Latino appearance. .....




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President Trump Should Be Impeached for Pardoning Joe Arpaio (Original Post) L. Coyote Aug 2017 OP
Agree. Just wish it came from a more credible publication Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #1
By Ian Haney Lopez, the Earl Warren Professor of Public Law at the UC Berkeley L. Coyote Aug 2017 #2
Try rereading my post Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #3
Printing this article contradicts your posts. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #8
No it doesn't Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #9
New York Times had an article today bearsfootball516 Aug 2017 #4
That may be right. Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #5
yes Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #6
He could spin that with the supremacists. He needs to be found a traitor and/or money launderer. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #7
One of the reasons customerserviceguy Aug 2017 #10
knr struggle4progress Aug 2017 #11
"Should be" does not mean "will be" ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #12

Bradshaw3

(7,533 posts)
1. Agree. Just wish it came from a more credible publication
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 02:15 PM
Aug 2017

Hell, he could be impeached for what we already know about collusion and obstrution on Russia but the Natiion would never justify it on those grounds.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
2. By Ian Haney Lopez, the Earl Warren Professor of Public Law at the UC Berkeley
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 02:19 PM
Aug 2017

Ian Haney López is the Earl Warren Professor of Public Law at the University of California, Berkeley, where he teaches in the areas of race and constitutional law. His most recent book is Dog Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial Appeals Have Reinvented Racism and Wrecked the Middle Class (Oxford 2014).

And you complain about who printed it forthwith? SERIOUSLY?? Did you fail to recognize the author?

Bradshaw3

(7,533 posts)
3. Try rereading my post
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 02:21 PM
Aug 2017

It was about the Putin-apologist PUBLICATION not the AUTHOR. That's why I said "wish it came, etc."

Bradshaw3

(7,533 posts)
9. No it doesn't
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 05:24 PM
Aug 2017

Either you don't know about what's going on at the Nation (their stance on Russia isn't changed by one article on impeachment) or you are upset about a relevant but side point on the article. I said I agreed with the article and if that isn't good enough for you not much else I can do. Try doing some more research and Russiagate - if you look at it with an open mind you might see what I'm talking about.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
4. New York Times had an article today
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 02:28 PM
Aug 2017

About how the Arpaio isn't really impeachment worthy because although it shows Trump has zero ethics, he didn't really do anything illegal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/26/us/politics/trump-pardon-joe-arpaio-constitution.html?src=twr&smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

That's why I think impeaching Trump will be really, really hard. Yeah, he's an asshole and a lot of the shit he does is awful...but legal.

Bradshaw3

(7,533 posts)
5. That may be right.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 02:40 PM
Aug 2017

I'm stil emotional about this and want impeachment and think the UC professor made good points but it might be better strategy to wait to more comes out about Russiagate.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
10. One of the reasons
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 06:09 PM
Aug 2017

that presidents usually issue pardons on their way out is to not have to deal with the "Impeach him!" blowback from pardoning unpopular people. How many of us wish that Presidents Clinton and Obama made at least a few of their pardons much earlier on?

Trump clearly shows that he's going to do this his way, without regard to the conventional wisdom (I shudder to use that term when describing the GOP) as to the propriety of it. He figures that going from his gut got him to where he's at, so he's going to stick with it.

That even includes this week's announcement on Afghanistan. His gut tells him that his handpicked military leaders all know what they're doing, even if it seems to conflict with sentiments he's expressed in the past.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
12. "Should be" does not mean "will be"
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 06:32 PM
Aug 2017

He should have been impeached six or seven times over already, but he hasn't. The GOP that set him up is worried about being casualties in a Nazi revolution.

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