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Here is a chart of measuring hurricane strength ....Harvey is a Cat. 1 so far (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 OP
Harvey is a Cat? FSogol Aug 2017 #1
It will be Cat 3 when it lands and it supposed to stay on land for some time dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #3
Could easily make it to Cat 4. nt B2G Aug 2017 #5
Joking aside, I hope everyone stays safe. n/t FSogol Aug 2017 #6
Harvey is a rabbit KatyMan Aug 2017 #8
A favorite film of mine. Hope you stay safe and dry. FSogol Aug 2017 #9
Thanks! KatyMan Aug 2017 #14
The water its carrying with it is the thing underpants Aug 2017 #2
They are projecting up to to feet of rain. davsand Aug 2017 #7
Seaside drainage. It's hard when there's little downhill underpants Aug 2017 #10
All those refineries and other chemical plants sitting in the path.... dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #15
Current track... brooklynite Aug 2017 #4
That is truly horrible Warpy Aug 2017 #11
My first weekend day-trip to Galveston was scheduled three months ago. LanternWaste Aug 2017 #12
Please do stay home malaise Aug 2017 #17
I'm old enough to remember Mariana Aug 2017 #13
I'm old enough to remember when "normal" thunderstorms did not have a name. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #16
Who is "they" naming winter storms? Mariana Aug 2017 #18
LOL!!! dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #19

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. It will be Cat 3 when it lands and it supposed to stay on land for some time
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 02:02 PM
Aug 2017

Wind speeds of 115 on Sat. AFTER landfall.
So at least 24 hours, more likely 48 hours of high wind, monsoon rain, massive flooding, and no high ground.
I shudder to think of all those people in the area.

FSogol

(45,519 posts)
9. A favorite film of mine. Hope you stay safe and dry.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 02:44 PM
Aug 2017

My areaway windows fill up with water if I get more than 2" of rain. My basement would turn into and aquarium if I got 12-24."

KatyMan

(4,209 posts)
14. Thanks!
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 03:08 PM
Aug 2017

We're in a far west Houston suburb that's supposed to get something like 17" of rain over the stretch of the storm but we'll see, these early forecasts can change quite quickly.
I selfishly look forward to a weekend of rain, netflix, wine and...er...herb...

davsand

(13,421 posts)
7. They are projecting up to to feet of rain.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 02:33 PM
Aug 2017

You are correct that storm surge is not the same thing. At one point this morning they were talking about fresh water flooding as well as the storm surge which carries sea water with it.

Corpus has an elderly water system that does not fare well when there are heavy rains. My daughter went to the A&M branch there in Corpus, and they were on a boil order five times in that one school year. One of those orders lasted over two weeks. They had one issue last year where there were flammable chemicals in the water supply from one of the refineries dumping illegally. This storm carries a huge potential for damage and it is terrifying. My kid is back up here in an Illinois college now, but still has a bunch of friends there on that campus. The college announced a mandatory evacuation from the campus and, in fact, closed the campus at noon today. They actually delayed opening some of the housing there because of this storm coming in.

This is some ugly stuff coming in, and the locals are taking it seriously.



Laura

underpants

(182,868 posts)
10. Seaside drainage. It's hard when there's little downhill
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 02:56 PM
Aug 2017

I grew up surrounded by water on the Virginia peninsula. No sewers because the water table was only a few feet below the ground. No basements. Septic tanks and those things with Va peninsula humidity - that's why all the basketball hoops are in the front yard.

Refinery leakage. Nice.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. All those refineries and other chemical plants sitting in the path....
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 10:27 PM
Aug 2017

that can make for a toxic flood. *shudder*

Warpy

(111,328 posts)
11. That is truly horrible
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 03:03 PM
Aug 2017

After it comes onshore, it's just going to squat there in the same place. That means flooding will be massive well away from the storm surge area.

Best advice to anyone in the area is to fill the bathtub. The water will be potable as is for a couple of days, boil after that, and since the water will likely be shut down until after the storm passes, it will also give a source for things like flushing the toilet and washing a few dishes here and there.

Been there, done that, lived through it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. My first weekend day-trip to Galveston was scheduled three months ago.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 03:04 PM
Aug 2017

My first weekend day-trip (in two years) to Galveston was scheduled three months ago.

After watching both the track and the projected rainfall amounts over the past 36 hours (forecast calls for localized areas to get up to 20&quot , I think I'll be staying home instead.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
13. I'm old enough to remember
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 03:04 PM
Aug 2017

when they generally expressed hurricane strength in miles per hour sustained wind speed in the first place. You didn't have to go hunt up a chart to see what the heck category X means.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
16. I'm old enough to remember when "normal" thunderstorms did not have a name.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 10:29 PM
Aug 2017

Now they are naming winter storms.
Waiting for tornadoes to get names.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
18. Who is "they" naming winter storms?
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 10:51 PM
Aug 2017

It isn't the NWS, not yet anyway. Isn't it just The Weather Channel, or have some more media outlets jumped on that? I live in winter storm land, and I don't hear names being used because I refuse to watch The Weather Channel.

I had to stop watching The Weather Channel years and years ago, when they were reporting on a nothing fizzled out tropical storm where my parents live. One of the idiot crew stood outside babbling away, not a hair out of place, when a piece of paper floated by on a little gust of wind. "Look, there's some debris flying past!" this jackass said. I changed the channel and I've never watched again.

I thought it was way too much when they started naming tropical storms. 35mph winds worthy of a name? Seriously? And I hate the idiotic categories for hurricanes. What's wrong with just telling us the sustained wind speed? Do they think numbers bigger than 5 are too confusing for us to handle?

Oh, and get off my lawn!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
19. LOL!!!
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 12:53 AM
Aug 2017

I seem to remember hearings name last year?? I think, when a storm was heading to the upper East Coast.

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