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mcar

(42,334 posts)
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 02:30 PM Aug 2017

Pierce: I Have No More Patience for Trump Supporters

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a57164/trump-arizona-speech/

At least, old Ted Agnew had the late William Safire writing his stuff for him. "Nattering nabobs of negativism." "Pusillanimous pussyfooters." I mean, that's the top-shelf brand right there. It's an honor to have such invective thrown in your direction. Ol' Ted broke new ground in only two areas—taking cheap-ass bribes in the office of the vice president and attacking the media...

Before we get to the other stuff, and there was lots of other stuff, I'd like to address myself to those people represented by the parenthetical notation (Applause) in the above transcript, those people who waited for hours in 105-degree heat so that they could have the G-spot of their irrationality properly stroked for them. You're all suckers. You're dim and you're ignorant and you can't even feel yourself sliding toward something that will surprise even you with its fundamental ugliness, something that everybody who can see past the veil of their emotions can see as plain as a church by daylight, to borrow a phrase from that Willie Shakespeare fella. The problem, of course, is that you, in your pathetic desire to be loved by a guy who wouldn't have 15 seconds for you on the street, are dragging the rest of us toward that end, too.

A guy basically went mad, right there on the stage in front of you, and you cheered and booed right on cue because you're sheep and because he directed his insanity at all the scapegoats that your favorite radio and TV personalities have been creating for you over the past three decades. Especially, I guess, people like me who practice the craft of journalism in a country that honors that craft in its most essential founding documents. The President of the United States came right up to the edge of inciting you to riot and you rode along with him. You're on his team, by god...

It was a deadening, numbing 77 minutes. (If there's one modern orator he most resembles, it's Fidel Castro.) The abiding feelings that I took away from this carnival of the Id were twofold: first, that this jefe manqué is on the verge of sending people infinitely better than he is to die in a war he doesn't understand, and second, and probably most important, this is a president* who is scared to death. He's frightened of the responsibilities of his office, of the mounting unpopularity of both himself and his policies, and of the hounds baying at the frontiers of his shady past and shadier present. He's terrified, and he should be. He's desperately shoring up the bubble that his ovine followers helped him build to insulate him from the truth and from empirical reality.
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Pierce: I Have No More Patience for Trump Supporters (Original Post) mcar Aug 2017 OP
No More F's To Give Me. Aug 2017 #1
Me either mcar Aug 2017 #3
I Bet He's Also LOst His Sense Of Humor Me. Aug 2017 #4
Lost it? I doubt he ever had a sense of humor. Scarsdale Aug 2017 #32
Brilliant! n/t chia Aug 2017 #2
K&R Progressive dog Aug 2017 #5
Love this. worstexever Aug 2017 #6
K and R BadgerMom Aug 2017 #7
That was amazing More_Cowbell Aug 2017 #8
Here is a good, legitimate Litmus test for future voting rights... world wide wally Aug 2017 #9
deplorables is way too fucking kind. spanone Aug 2017 #10
I always thought 50% ways was to low MaryLouisaWillis Aug 2017 #21
That was my problem LoveMyCali Aug 2017 #25
Trump's gatherings are sociopathic conventions onit2day Aug 2017 #30
"Ovine followers" PatSeg Aug 2017 #11
I had to look it up, sheep followers steve2470 Aug 2017 #12
Same here! PatSeg Aug 2017 #13
BOOOM!!! Ligyron Aug 2017 #17
Along with.... SergeStorms Aug 2017 #28
Good point PatSeg Aug 2017 #31
Rec!!!! progressoid Aug 2017 #14
"Carnival of the Id" Ilsa Aug 2017 #15
Bravo!! Duppers Aug 2017 #16
K&R and Bookmarked! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #18
A big, fat K&R NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #19
It would be great if The Wizard Aug 2017 #20
The republicans have shoved this shart down America's throat Achilleaze Aug 2017 #22
Beautifully said, but why waste time on these ignorant lemmings? BarbD Aug 2017 #23
They are all lying to themselves. kentuck Aug 2017 #24
These same people will go on and on about their freedoms nuxvomica Aug 2017 #26
the white sheets have come off and the khakis have come out. Facts and figures mean nothing to demosincebirth Aug 2017 #27
I'm extremely gratified.... SergeStorms Aug 2017 #29
His supporters are Zombies. Chatty Cathie dolls. You pull the string... Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #33
Pusillanimous pussyfooters ailsagirl Aug 2017 #34
KnR Hekate Aug 2017 #35
Wow. Kick. Squinch Aug 2017 #36
I have many times been scolded for calling them "idiot racist fuckheads" Orrex Aug 2017 #37
For those tRump supporters who insisted that we had to give him a chance--- Grammy23 Aug 2017 #38

mcar

(42,334 posts)
3. Me either
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 02:43 PM
Aug 2017

Here's another snip:

I have no more patience, and I had very little to start with. I don't care why you're anxious. I don't care for anybody's interpretation of why you voted for this abomination of a politician, and why you cheer him now, because any explanation not rooted in the nastier bits of basic human spleen is worthless. I don't want any politicians who seek to appeal to the more benign manifestations of your condition because there's no way to separate those from all the rest of the hate and fear and stupidity. (And, for my colleagues in the Vance-Arnade-Zito school of Trump Whispering, here's a hint: They hate you, too.) I don't care why you sat out in a roasting pan since 5 a.m. Tuesday morning to whistle and cheer and stomp your feet for a scared, dangerous little man who tells you that your every bloody fantasy about your enemies is the height of patriotism. You are now the declared adversaries of what I do for a living, and your idol is a danger to the country and so are you. Own it. Deal with it. And, for the love of god, and for the sake of the rest of us who live in this country, do better at being citizens.

As to the rest, I might have been a little groggy, but I thought I heard him say he was going to shut down the government unless Congress gives him money for his stupid wall that Mexico was supposed to finance. I thought I heard him tell that evil racist gossoon, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, to count on a pardon down the line somewhere. And, I swear to god, I thought I heard him call the Democrats in the Congress communists.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
32. Lost it? I doubt he ever had a sense of humor.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 07:29 PM
Aug 2017

Look at him, he is a cartoon come to life. Orange face with white eye rings, anus mouth, hair that needs to be arranged each day like a piece of artwork, rotund shape. He THINKS he is a sex symbol, going around doing women a favor by grabbing them!! He is a JOKE. Lusts after his own daughter.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
9. Here is a good, legitimate Litmus test for future voting rights...
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 03:40 PM
Aug 2017

If you voted for Trump, you're too fucking stupid to vote in any further elections.

Short and simple.... and effecrive!

LoveMyCali

(2,015 posts)
25. That was my problem
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:01 PM
Aug 2017

with Hillary's deplorable comment too. Sure there is a portion of Trump supporters who were confused or misguided but at least 90% were just deplorable.

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
30. Trump's gatherings are sociopathic conventions
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 07:16 PM
Aug 2017

Deplorables are all Trump supporters because he is scum and deplorable. A pediophille, racist pathological liar so selfish he stiffs workers, contractors and has never done a nice thing for anybody his entire lifetime unless it serves him in some way. a PINO who will never actually be president

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
28. Along with....
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:50 PM
Aug 2017

"jefe manqué ". That's the first time I've heard Trump referred to in that way. However, I think that would infer some people had confidence in him in the first place. I can't think of anyone, outside of a rabid Trumpaholic, who EVER had any confidence he was going to do even a mediocre job as president.

Still, "jefe manqué" is definitely worthy of applause.

PatSeg

(47,482 posts)
31. Good point
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 07:17 PM
Aug 2017

Mediocre would have exceeded my expectations for sure.

Yes, "jefe manque" is worthy. I wish I could say that I might use it some day, but it is highly unlikely. Reading Pierce certainly enhances one's vocabulary.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
15. "Carnival of the Id"
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 04:32 PM
Aug 2017


...those people who waited for hours in 105-degree heat so that they could have the G-spot of their irrationality properly stroked for them. You're all suckers. 


NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
19. A big, fat K&R
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 04:46 PM
Aug 2017

I'm glad people are saying it, and Pierce is one of the best.

Who CARES why they voted for a monster? I don't, any more than I'd worry a poor crocodile's hunger as it inches towards my leg.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
20. It would be great if
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 05:13 PM
Aug 2017

his followers could read this, but alas, too many multi syllabic words and no pictures.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
22. The republicans have shoved this shart down America's throat
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 05:20 PM
Aug 2017

republicans will never, ever be forgiven for betraying America.

BarbD

(1,193 posts)
23. Beautifully said, but why waste time on these ignorant lemmings?
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 05:42 PM
Aug 2017

They will continue to march lock-step with Trump. We need to rouse those who did not vote to step up and become involved citizens.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
24. They are all lying to themselves.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 05:57 PM
Aug 2017

He is exactly what they wanted, they continue to say. The chaos and insanity is perfectly OK if it drives the "liberals" crazy. To hell with everything if their side wins. They are a sickness that has been dealt upon our country. They actually live in another reality.

nuxvomica

(12,426 posts)
26. These same people will go on and on about their freedoms
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:28 PM
Aug 2017

They want to have the freedom to carry guns wherever and whenever and the freedom to shoot others when they feel even a little bit threatened. They want the freedom to engage in commerce without the government restricting their pollution or their labor practices or their finances. They want the freedom to speak openly about their bigotry. Etc, etc, etc. Yet they've given up the one freedom without which all others are meaningless, the same freedom even many prisoners in Soviet gulags enjoyed when they enjoyed no others, the freedom to think for themselves. And this freedom they have given up willingly!

demosincebirth

(12,537 posts)
27. the white sheets have come off and the khakis have come out. Facts and figures mean nothing to
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:36 PM
Aug 2017

to them. Many of them, probably, don't have pot to piss in nor a window to toss it out of, yet they espouse the stupidity of their inbred ancestors and their man (in diapers) President.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
29. I'm extremely gratified....
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 07:06 PM
Aug 2017

there are journalists of Mr. Pierce's caliber, to write concise, truthful, wonderfully written critiques of our leaders in this manner. Dip-shits like Trump and his ilk, think our free press is horrible, and worst of all "fake". It's only "fake" if it's not flattering to our Sewage Treatment Plant-In Chief. If they lied, and were flattering this Orange Shit-Goblin, he'd be lauding them endlessly.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
33. His supporters are Zombies. Chatty Cathie dolls. You pull the string...
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:28 PM
Aug 2017

they say what you want them to say, think what you want them to think, act how you want them to.

They really are not very intelligent and are true followers in the sense that cult members are followers. They are not independent thinkers, and tend to glamorize and glorify one person as a leader with all the answers and the only one with the truth.

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
37. I have many times been scolded for calling them "idiot racist fuckheads"
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 08:35 AM
Aug 2017

Yet they have many times revealed themselves as exactly the idiot racist fuckheads I recognize them to be.

This is a terrific article that hits it right on the head.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
38. For those tRump supporters who insisted that we had to give him a chance---
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 12:29 PM
Aug 2017

in spite of the fact that THEY never gave President Obama a chance--- well, he did have his chance. He has had months to show us how he would lead, make decisions and handle a crisis. He has proven that the fears we had before his term have been revealed to be justified. He is as bad or worse than we feared. The warnings of his temperment and psychological issues were all right on target. The fact that his supporters are too deluded or just too dumb to know what is happening is not our problem. There are more of us than them. No, our problem is not them. It is what it has always been. It is HIM.

So now that he is the president, it is our job to get him out. Find a way. Article 25, impeachment, whatever it takes to make him go away. Then follow up with indictment for crimes he committed before the election and after he was inaugurated. Obstruction of justice is a crime and he continues to try to thwart the efforts to investigate his crimes. His pre-election crimes would fill a legal pad.

F**k the supporters. My patience for them evaporated a long time ago. I don't care that they are angry, upset or butt hurt over how things stand in the USA. I do care that they are racists, homophobes, xenophobes or what have you. But nothing I say or anyone else says will jolt them out of those irrational ways of viewing the world. So just forget them. We have a job to do.

Pressure the Congress to eject trump from the Presidency ASAP. And put Pence on a fast track out the door, too. He knows what he got into when he jumped on the tRump train. So he has to go. And as quickly as we can remove the rest of his toxic cabinet, they need to go. Our work is cut out for us. And it won't be easy! Rough waters ahead. But do this, we must!

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