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Is "Ask the Administrators" used anymore? There have been no responses for about 2 months. (Original Post) RKP5637 Aug 2017 OP
I asked them why my post was hidden. Months ago. Never got an answer. DetlefK Aug 2017 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #2
Were you even around for the hack? In any case, you can go back and look up their statements... Hekate Aug 2017 #5
I didn't demand or claim a "right" to anything. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #7
Even the Admins deserve a summer vacation with the wife and kids? Hekate Aug 2017 #3
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #8
You seem angry. pintobean Aug 2017 #9
I'm not angry. Just speaking the truth KID. beaglelover Aug 2017 #10
It hasn't gone unnoticed. Others have observed the same, and concur with your analysis. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #12
I-ve been disappointed because I like to read the questions and responses. cwydro Aug 2017 #22
"This restaurant is terrible! ... and, the portions are SO SMALL!" Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #27
Wasn't me pintobean Aug 2017 #42
Agree that everyone needs a vacation. 33taw Aug 2017 #54
Why don't you go ask them? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2017 #4
That's a tad pointless, Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #6
How? LOL! They don't answer! RKP5637 Aug 2017 #14
Post a request to get tombstoned right fucking now Major Nikon Aug 2017 #43
do people still use that phrase? Caliman73 Aug 2017 #44
Sounds like a job for The Preacher. Iggo Aug 2017 #11
LOL! We've been watching that show... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #13
Oh no, you did it, I'm going to have to watch it! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #20
Well, people are certainly posting there. MineralMan Aug 2017 #15
Yep, I think it's going much better than in the past! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #16
Yeah, I think so, too. MineralMan Aug 2017 #17
Yep, I really don't blame them for making DU more or less user-operated. It seemed to me they were RKP5637 Aug 2017 #18
+1 Hekate Aug 2017 #57
They've posted recently, monitors have been changed, site works fine. Sunlei Aug 2017 #19
Sing a Song! RKP5637 Aug 2017 #21
Here's the song I left on "ask" Sunlei Aug 2017 #23
Perfect !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #25
I agree. I've asked 2 questions in that time frame and no response. Justice Aug 2017 #24
What mods? Do we have mods again? Stinky The Clown Aug 2017 #41
I suspect that, year after year of dealing with the same bullshit, they may have checked out. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #26
Yep, I would think so too! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #28
True, but they seem to ignore everything. TooStrong Aug 2017 #30
Over the years? Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #34
Ooops Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2017 #47
That one was definitely a LOL! RKP5637 Aug 2017 #52
I agree, and he seems to respond to the easiest questions steve2470 Aug 2017 #32
Having been here for, what, 13 years now myself... Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #35
oh meta devolved into a complete shitstorm steve2470 Aug 2017 #36
I remember. Oh, do I remember. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #38
I have a renewed appreciation for this place.... steve2470 Aug 2017 #39
Back atcha Steve Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #40
I've emailed every email address I could find over a hidden post and never got a response. TooStrong Aug 2017 #29
Why are you e-mailing the admins Texasgal Aug 2017 #56
Personally, I have received an answer every time I have asked about a post being locked. Stonepounder Aug 2017 #31
Thanks! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #37
Oh, they're around. Just try posting something against the TOU. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #33
The admins are all dead. trof Aug 2017 #45
... RKP5637 Aug 2017 #46
Oops busted. Skinner Aug 2017 #48
Aww! blogslut Aug 2017 #49
I was getting a little concerned about you, it had been awhile! RKP5637 Aug 2017 #50
+1. Little bit of a Russian sockpuppet problem, jury systems can't adddress, but otherwise all good! FreepFryer Aug 2017 #51
This has happened before left-of-center2012 Aug 2017 #53
Skinner got back to me, see #48. RKP5637 Aug 2017 #55
Pretty sure they are too busy fighting Trump and Pence fescuerescue Aug 2017 #58
Skinner is back at the ATA question everything Aug 2017 #59
Yep! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #60

Response to RKP5637 (Original post)

Hekate

(90,704 posts)
5. Were you even around for the hack? In any case, you can go back and look up their statements...
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 01:01 PM
Aug 2017

...made after they got DU back online. They consulted with legal authorities, and I believe they have a lawyer. I always assume they are following the suggestions of those entities and keeping their mouths shut in public. It is not our "right" to demand to know the details in a legal case.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
7. I didn't demand or claim a "right" to anything.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 01:09 PM
Aug 2017

I don't get the whole putting words in other peoples mouth thing.

Response to Hekate (Reply #3)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. It hasn't gone unnoticed. Others have observed the same, and concur with your analysis.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 01:59 PM
Aug 2017

Can a neglected site survive and stick to its original mission? When a site is leaderless, does the original mission morph and creep over time to reflect the ideas and standards held by a simple majority? Could an administrative loss of interest indicate that the site may cease operations? Or could it lead to the site being sold?

It probably sounds like wild and "idle speculation" from me... but these are things that I've heard others discussing (elsewhere online and in private messages, texts, etc.) It would be a shame if that happened. There's be an adjustment period, but I'd survive.



 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. I-ve been disappointed because I like to read the questions and responses.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 04:43 PM
Aug 2017

Many times it's something that answers a question that I had.

I think I've only submitted a question once or twice; each time it was answered.

I thought it was kind of weird they've stopped answering, but perhaps there's just a bunch of meta stuff - I think they generally ignore that (with good reason).

33taw

(2,443 posts)
54. Agree that everyone needs a vacation.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 11:23 AM
Aug 2017

With that said - there should be a back-up to individuals on vacation who can respond within a few days or a week. All sites should be providing users with information related to requests for their data - even if it is a simple "we have been asked to provide information and are working with legal staff to determine what is appropriate".

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
43. Post a request to get tombstoned right fucking now
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 07:48 PM
Aug 2017

If you can still post in 24 hours, it's safe to assume they aren't being read.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
15. Well, people are certainly posting there.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 02:56 PM
Aug 2017

The site seems to be running fairly well these days. Members are still voting in juries, so the community moderation also appears to be working. The MIRT is busy nuking trolls. Discussion is ongoing, as well.

There doesn't seem to be much the Admins need to do at the moment, so I suppose they're working on something else.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
17. Yeah, I think so, too.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 03:03 PM
Aug 2017

After the election, some people didn't return, for one reason or another. Things seemed to calm down a lot once DU was back online after the hack.

There's still a lively discussion happening, but some of the extremes have flattened out a little, so it's less toxic these days.

The goal of the whole community moderation thing was to make the site more or less user-operated, I think. I can't blame the admins for not wanting to work around the clock keeping the site within some sort of sane boundaries.

DI, on the other hand, has become a wild thing, from all I can tell. I have a screen name over there, but there are only a couple of long-ago posts under that name. I bailed very early from that site. That one's not working as well, it seems to me.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
18. Yep, I really don't blame them for making DU more or less user-operated. It seemed to me they were
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 03:11 PM
Aug 2017

working 7x24 at times. It also seemed Skinner had to intercede a lot from time to time. I think the new jury process has taken a lot of the toxic environment away. I did post a couple of system related things and they got fixed. So, someone must be looking at it, but not getting into dialogues. I'm OK with it all, just my perpetual curiosity about things. I don't go over to DI much. Just looked around a few times, but never got an account. I'm just more comfortable with the constructive sanity of DU.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
19. They've posted recently, monitors have been changed, site works fine.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 03:16 PM
Aug 2017

perhaps questions on "Ask" aren't high on the 'to do' list.

You can't read them anyway, only if answered. That forum doesn't even show to the not logged in.

I did leave them a song today

Justice

(7,188 posts)
24. I agree. I've asked 2 questions in that time frame and no response.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 05:19 PM
Aug 2017


Actually don't think things are working great.

There are more duplicate threads than ever. 2-3-4 sometimes on LBN and then again on GD. Maddening. Create lots of "junk"

Lots of silly posts and click bait posts in GD. There is too much actual stuff going on so these just muck up works.

DU would be more powerful if there were a Russia forum, so info could be posted there, build based of knowledge and discussion.

Have health care debate, Russia investigation and 2 or 3 other things in GD rather than separate places, so items disappear from page 1 rapidly which is part of reason get multiple duplicates - people don't see it on page 1 so post, but there is already a recent post on point which slip to page 2.

Mods do their best but lots of clean up needed.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
26. I suspect that, year after year of dealing with the same bullshit, they may have checked out.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 05:24 PM
Aug 2017

Oh, I'm sure a crucial question pertaining to site management would get addressed, but 50,000 different iterations of message board personality drama crap and "my team HATES those other people and those types on that other team, why haven't you banned them all yet?" or "how dare you keep my friends on ffr"

....is gonna get ignored.

 

TooStrong

(16 posts)
30. True, but they seem to ignore everything.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:24 PM
Aug 2017

I've asked many questions over the years (none like your examples) and I've never received a response.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
32. I agree, and he seems to respond to the easiest questions
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:29 PM
Aug 2017

The ones like, "is this broken ?" He probably ignores all the complaints that will just piss off the user with a honest answer. Running this place, for the most part, is a pretty thankless task with lots of kicks in the ass, both warranted and unwarranted.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
35. Having been here for, what, 13 years now myself...
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:37 PM
Aug 2017

I can say that the fundamental bullshit that plagues this board never changes at all.

I would imagine after years of trying different tactics to mitigate it- remember meta? - they likely have thrown up their hands and say "fuck it".

Some people are simply NEVER going to be happy with this place or the way it is run. But one wonders why they stick around, then.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
36. oh meta devolved into a complete shitstorm
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:46 PM
Aug 2017

13 years for me too in October. To me this is the best place for politics on the net, overall. Unless you're a Nazi.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
38. I remember. Oh, do I remember.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:48 PM
Aug 2017

Funniest part of that whole deal, though, was the people who complained the MOST about meta were the ones who didn't know what to do with themselves once it was gone.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
39. I have a renewed appreciation for this place....
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:53 PM
Aug 2017

I go to another forum, which will remain nameless. Not a political one. At any rate, the rules (to me) are extremely strict, and I've already gotten my knuckles rapped a few times. It's also got a more conservative demographic than this one. I enjoy being a bit profane here and posting some semi-questionable stuff and no one really blinks an eye. Can't do that everywhere I enjoy you too, Warren. One of the more broad-perspective chaps here.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
40. Back atcha Steve
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:57 PM
Aug 2017


I like this place. There are some truly funny, thoughtful and clever people and it can't be beat for staying up-to-the minute on what is happening in our crazy political universe, especially now.

And despite the baloney and shit-stirring, honestly I'd much rather deal with the drama farmers and game players here than have to wade through the mindless arguments of right-wing Trumpkins.
 

TooStrong

(16 posts)
29. I've emailed every email address I could find over a hidden post and never got a response.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:22 PM
Aug 2017

They might as well take them down, IMO.

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
56. Why are you e-mailing the admins
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 02:49 PM
Aug 2017

to answer your question when one was provided when you had your post hidden?

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
31. Personally, I have received an answer every time I have asked about a post being locked.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 06:27 PM
Aug 2017

Or when I have made a comment about a post being locked. I don't think I have posted to 'Ask the Admin' but I have emailed a host and almost invariably get a response back within 1-2 hours.

Not sure if this is the same think you were asking about, just a note on my own experiences.

trof

(54,256 posts)
45. The admins are all dead.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 07:53 PM
Aug 2017

Their heirs just collect the advertising revenues.
Thread monitors are bots.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
48. Oops busted.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 10:24 AM
Aug 2017


Thanks for the reminder. I guess it's been a while. I'll try to swing through later today.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
50. I was getting a little concerned about you, it had been awhile!
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 10:41 AM
Aug 2017

Thanks for getting back to me! DU is such a great place!

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
51. +1. Little bit of a Russian sockpuppet problem, jury systems can't adddress, but otherwise all good!
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 10:42 AM
Aug 2017

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
53. This has happened before
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 10:55 AM
Aug 2017

I once asked why there had been no responses in Ask the Administrators for a couple months.
Then a whole bunch of posts got responses ... and then, nothing.

You should not be attacked for asking.

After all, this is the "DEMOCRATICunderground".

Maybe Ask the Administrators needs a larger staff?

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
58. Pretty sure they are too busy fighting Trump and Pence
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 12:25 AM
Aug 2017

to waste time on answering trivia questions. Remember - they are right in the thick of it in DC.

Besides, I think that the DU speaks for itself, as any piece of art does.

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