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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:48 AM Aug 2017

Early signs of dementia and Alzheimer's explained...

Dementia:

If you or your loved one is experiencing memory problems, don’t immediately conclude that it’s dementia. A person needs to have at least two types of impairment that significantly interfere with everyday life to receive a dementia diagnosis.

In addition to difficulty remembering, the person may also experience impairments in:

language
communication
focus
reasoning
1. Subtle short-term memory changes
Trouble with memory can be an early symptom of dementia. The changes are often subtle and tend to involve short-term memory. An older person may be able to remember events that took place years ago but not what they had for breakfast.

Other symptoms of changes in short-term memory include forgetting where they left an item, struggling to remember why they entered a particular room, or forgetting what they were supposed to do on any given day.

2. Difficulty finding the right words
Another early symptom of dementia is struggling to communicate thoughts. A person with dementia may have difficulty explaining something or finding the right words to express themselves. Having a conversation with a person who has dementia can be difficult, and it may take longer than usual to conclude.

3. Changes in mood
A change in mood is also common with dementia. If you have dementia, it isn’t always easy to recognize this in yourself, but you may notice this change in someone else. Depression, for instance, is typical of early dementia.

Along with mood changes, you might also see a shift in personality. One typical type of personality change seen with dementia is a shift from being shy to outgoing. This is because the condition often affects judgment.

4. Apathy
Apathy, or listlessness, commonly occurs in early dementia. A person with symptoms could lose interest in hobbies or activities. They may not want to go out anymore or do anything fun. They may lose interest in spending time with friends and family, and they may seem emotionally flat.

5. Difficulty completing normal tasks
A subtle shift in the ability to complete normal tasks may indicate that someone has early dementia. This usually starts with difficulty doing more complex tasks like balancing a checkbook or playing games that have a lot of rules.

Along with the struggle to complete familiar tasks, they may struggle to learn how to do new things or follow new routines.

6. Confusion
Someone in the early stages of dementia may often become confused. When memory, thinking, or judgment lapses, confusion may arise as they can no longer remember faces, find the right words, or interact with people normally.

Confusion can occur for a number of reasons and apply to different situations. For example, they may misplace their car keys, forget what comes next in the day, or have difficulty remembering someone they’ve met before.

7. Difficulty following storylines
Difficulty following storylines may occur due to early dementia. This is a classic early symptom.

Just as finding and using the right words becomes difficult, people with dementia sometimes forget the meanings of words they hear or struggle to follow along with conversations or TV programs.

8. A failing sense of direction
The sense of direction and spatial orientation commonly starts to deteriorate with the onset of dementia. This can mean not recognizing once-familiar landmarks and forgetting regularly used directions. It also becomes more difficult to follow a series of directions and step-by-step instructions.

9. Being repetitive
Repetition is common in dementia because of memory loss and general behavioral changes. The person may repeat daily tasks, such as shaving, or they may collect items obsessively.

They also may repeat the same questions in a conversation after they’ve been answered.

10. Struggling to adapt to change
For someone in the early stages of dementia, the experience can cause fear. Suddenly, they can’t remember people they know or follow what others are saying. They can’t remember why they went to the store, and they get lost on the way home.

Because of this, they might crave routine and be afraid to try new experiences. Difficulty adapting to change is also a typical symptom of early dementia.


http://www.healthline.com/health/dementia/early-warning-signs#overview1

Alzheimer's:

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALZHEIMER’S AND TYPICAL
AGE-RELATED CHANGES?

Signs of Alzheimer’s/dementia Typical age-related changes
Poor judgment and decision-making Making a bad decision once in a while
Inability to manage a budget Missing a monthly payment
Losing track of the date or the season Forgetting which day it is and remembering it later
Difficulty having a conversation Sometimes forgetting which word to use
Misplacing things and being unable to retrace steps to find them Losing things from time to time


http://www.alz.org/10-signs-symptoms-alzheimers-dementia.asp

I think Idiot-in-Chief has one or the other.
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Early signs of dementia and Alzheimer's explained... (Original Post) MoonRiver Aug 2017 OP
Alzheimer's is one kind of dementia. ginnyinWI Aug 2017 #1
I think the main difference is mood. MoonRiver Aug 2017 #2
Sigh...I'm reading the signs of dementia Catherine Vincent Aug 2017 #3
it's not easy, is it. ginnyinWI Aug 2017 #5
So sorry. I went through this with my dad. It is hard. MoonRiver Aug 2017 #6
Sorry. :( I went through it with my mom too. Javaman Aug 2017 #8
trump may very well have beginning Alzheimer's oppressedproletarian Aug 2017 #4
That's how I see it, too. ginnyinWI Aug 2017 #7
Our father had incrementally bad judgment. no_hypocrisy Aug 2017 #9
I really don't think Trump has any dementia. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #10
The unprecedented stress oppressedproletarian Aug 2017 #11
Oh, yes! PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #12
I've seen it three times. He has dementia alcibiades_mystery Aug 2017 #13
Having known some people with Alzheimer's, PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #14
We'll wait and see alcibiades_mystery Aug 2017 #15
I know. And I'm just not seeing that progression with Donald Trump. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #16
On several occasions he has slipped into a confused state that looks like tblue37 Aug 2017 #17

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
1. Alzheimer's is one kind of dementia.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:56 AM
Aug 2017

There are 84 kinds of dementia, I'm told (my mother went through this in her last few years). It can be as simple as vascular--hardening of the arteries, which is what she had. She retained a lot--knew who she was and who people were, but had more and more short term memory loss and loss of the ability to do certain tasks like turn on the TV.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
2. I think the main difference is mood.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:59 AM
Aug 2017

People with Alzheimer's tend to become very angry and out of control behaviorally. Dementia suffers, like my dear departed dad, are more complacent and agreeable. Not a medical doctor, but this has been my observation and research.

Catherine Vincent

(34,490 posts)
3. Sigh...I'm reading the signs of dementia
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 09:03 AM
Aug 2017

My mom is going thru this right now unfortunately she is going through it in a nursing home (there's also other serious issues going on). She barely speaks, even though a member of the family visit her daily. It saddens me that she has to go through this alone.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
5. it's not easy, is it.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 09:17 AM
Aug 2017

My mom always recognized her family, at least. She had her mood swings and all the rest. Frustrated at her shrinking world, inability to feel useful and a part of things. But she just wasn't capable of doing what she had been doing: her sewing for the grandchildren, for example. It is sad to watch because you can't really do anything except be there.

4. trump may very well have beginning Alzheimer's
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 09:11 AM
Aug 2017

but he has always been who he is. Just more so now, maybe. The craziness and viciousness have not aged well.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
7. That's how I see it, too.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 09:22 AM
Aug 2017

He's always been this crude, vain, self-centered, dishonest personality. A bully, a liar, a cheat.

He continues to be that, but is now more and more incoherent and in a world of his own making. He is in a world of supposed enemies, tilting at windmills. Yells at the TV, lashes out at everyone whether it is in his best interest to do so or not. He's getting smaller and weaker before our very eyes.

I can picture him, someday, in a home, yelling the same way, thinking that the staff are his White House aides and advisors.

Just give him more double scoops of ice cream and tell him he's a good boy.

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
9. Our father had incrementally bad judgment.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 09:33 AM
Aug 2017

At age 92, he got into numerous fender-benders but was canny enough to pay out cash for the repairs of the other cars (to avoid being reported to both insurance and the state DMV). He couldn't (or wouldn't) pay six months of bills -- or permit my sister or I to prepare the checks for him to sign. He changed his Will ten times in ten years, resulting in disinheritance of me and my siblings but $35,000 left for the neighbor across the street. He repeated inane stories about dogs and FOX News stories at meals. At Thanksgiving, my sister's dog was tragically hit and killed by a driver and he was pushing us to start eating dinner.

We knew this elderly man was not the father we used to know. But he was functional enough that we couldn't go to court to take over his affairs.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
10. I really don't think Trump has any dementia.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 09:37 AM
Aug 2017

He's delusional about lots of things. From what I've read of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, that's a diagnosis that makes sense.
His bad judgement is simply how he's done things for years.

I have an acquaintance who has early onset Alzheimer's. I actually haven't seen her in several months, but in the early stages she'd get a look of confusion on her face that I've never seen on Trump's. After a while we could still do things with her like go do dinner, but when she needed to go to the restroom, one of us would go along or she'd be unable to find her way back to the table. Things like that.

Of course, early onset Alzheimer's progresses much more quickly than a later onset.

And as we get older (I've just turned 69), we lose a certain quickness of mind that we usually had when younger. That's why we can have a bit of trouble coming up with the exact word, or the title of a movie, or such things. My age mates and I are often amused that it can take three or four of us to come up with words and titles when we're having a conversation.

Trump's obvious intellectual limitations are, in my opinion, not at all connected to any dementia, but simply the manifestation of a lifetime of never reading anything, never learning new things, being convinced he's always right, and that he's always the smartest person in the room. He is completely closed off to new ideas, which is why (among other things) he's so determined to bring back mining and manufacturing. He hasn't a clue about how the world and the economy have actually changed over the years. Again, the clear sign of a man who never reads, never learns anything.

11. The unprecedented stress
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 01:07 PM
Aug 2017

of being the fake president doubtless brings out the worst in the loathsome creature, as well.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
13. I've seen it three times. He has dementia
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 11:17 PM
Aug 2017

Not a doubt in my mind.

Yeah yeah. I'm "playing" MD. Whatever. The signs are unmistakable. It's not even "early." He has another 12-18 months before he's virtually incoherent.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
14. Having known some people with Alzheimer's,
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:05 AM
Aug 2017

I'm going to say that Trump is simply not showing the erosion of focus (or whatever you might want to call it) that I've seen specifically with Alzheimer's.

We will wait and see, but I'm going to suggest that while he may well be frothing at the mouth somewhat incoherently when confronted with ideas and situations he doesn't like, he would be clinically incoherent in a year or two.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. We'll wait and see
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:07 AM
Aug 2017

I think you're wrong. It's a very clear progression, once you've been close to it every day.

tblue37

(65,391 posts)
17. On several occasions he has slipped into a confused state that looks like
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:38 AM
Aug 2017

sundowning. He didn't recognize the limo waiting right in front of him when he got off AF1; he forgot to sign an executive order that cameras and journalists had been gathered to witness, and simply wandered out of the room; he got up and wandered away when he was supposed to pose for photos with Netanyahu; he wandered away from the bulletproof shield and just adolescents state looking confused after speaking in Poland.

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