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Catmusicfan

(816 posts)
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:01 PM Aug 2017

Now I see why people warned me against joining this website.

You can't seem to bring up concerns or debate without getting slammed.

AND BEFORE ANYONE SAYS IT I AM NOT RACIST OR A FUCKING TROLL!!!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029488423

I will remain a "lurker" as you call people.

I will find out late breaking news and enjoy the Daily toon Round up and laugh out loud toons but I will not post publically again.

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Now I see why people warned me against joining this website. (Original Post) Catmusicfan Aug 2017 OP
Bye!! Lil Missy Aug 2017 #1
Rude nt Callmecrazy Aug 2017 #17
Not nearly as rude as the OP. nt. Mariana Aug 2017 #55
who are you ? stonecutter357 Aug 2017 #2
lol JHan Aug 2017 #50
slammed ? i read that thread and did not see anybody drray23 Aug 2017 #3
That was quite mild actually. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #4
Where were you slammed in that thread? SaschaHM Aug 2017 #5
That thread seems pretty civil to me. VMA131Marine Aug 2017 #6
You asked a question. countingbluecars Aug 2017 #7
Who warned you? JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #8
Didn't think that thread was all that nasty... Wounded Bear Aug 2017 #9
I've seen much much worse lol. cwydro Aug 2017 #26
No doubt... Wounded Bear Aug 2017 #28
Stick around, develop a thicker skin. It is just a discussion board. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #10
Continue lurking and reading. marybourg Aug 2017 #11
Feel free to respond to anything I post NotASurfer Aug 2017 #12
Blocking tools are easy to use and can be accessed thru the "My Profile" page. nt. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #24
Absolutely You can block anyone you want. Egnever Aug 2017 #25
I've been blocking you for Egnever! True Dough Aug 2017 #45
You said you were having a debate inside yourself. WhiteTara Aug 2017 #13
thats a good point. There are no statues of drray23 Aug 2017 #20
No Nazi flags flying over amusement parks in Bavaria either lunasun Aug 2017 #30
No statues of American Tories that were on the British side here in the states.. mitch96 Aug 2017 #42
bye, bye.... chillfactor Aug 2017 #14
Rude nt Callmecrazy Aug 2017 #19
Why do that? cwydro Aug 2017 #22
It takes a tougher skin to post here... Phentex Aug 2017 #15
An op - about an op - about members of the community. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #16
Really? Rush? That pile of human trash? Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #61
It is all very META.. Caliman73 Aug 2017 #70
Don't take things personally here. cwydro Aug 2017 #18
good to know that we are no just an echo chamber AlexSFCA Aug 2017 #21
Because there are strong opinions here? Egnever Aug 2017 #23
Where were you slammed? IndieRick Aug 2017 #27
I know, right? pamela Aug 2017 #46
"slammed" defined... Binkie The Clown Aug 2017 #29
So says the guy that arrived on June 17th... Historic NY Aug 2017 #31
These people who warned you ornotna Aug 2017 #32
I wondered about the "warning" too. cwydro Aug 2017 #54
Aw. Iggo Aug 2017 #33
Oh. H2O Man Aug 2017 #34
I recommend deleting this post. Cooler heads always prevail. grossproffit Aug 2017 #35
You weren't slammed. tymorial Aug 2017 #36
I hear that! ocd liberal Aug 2017 #37
OK, then. It's your choice, isn't it? MineralMan Aug 2017 #38
Hope you are lurking now. It appears that history "has" been forgotten. The history Lint Head Aug 2017 #39
I am sorry that you have had a bad experience. There is a simple Doodley Aug 2017 #40
lulz obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #41
Same thing happens on conservative forums mitch96 Aug 2017 #43
Where do the people who warned you post? Croney Aug 2017 #44
I believe this MFM008 Aug 2017 #47
Your skin may be too thin to be in a politcal forum. Kaleva Aug 2017 #48
Let it go, there are some here who believe that DI rocks ... yup, they sure do. So... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #49
So what? Cary Aug 2017 #51
Kay. Squinch Aug 2017 #52
It's true you have to have a thick skin. Laffy Kat Aug 2017 #53
Well worshipping any flag is just weird. And MyNameGoesHere Aug 2017 #56
I always wonder about posts that imply confederate memorials are history. History is this -- Hoyt Aug 2017 #57
Another Pity Party? Here, fresh Big Girl panties with your name on the back. nt procon Aug 2017 #58
Two comments for you.... OnDoutside Aug 2017 #59
Bingo! greytdemocrat Aug 2017 #60
Man,OP, I'm not one to mix it up, but if you get your feelings hurt Patterson Aug 2017 #62
And exactly the discussion s/he asked for, too. Iggo Aug 2017 #68
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #63
So what's a nice person like you doing in a place like this? dalton99a Aug 2017 #64
"Jim never vomits, at home" Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #65
*starts Disney movie* Let it go! Let It Go! LET IT GO! Xolodno Aug 2017 #66
You asked what you said was an honest question and you got a whole bunch of honest answers fishwax Aug 2017 #67
Exactly. Iggo Aug 2017 #69
Promise? NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #71
If you're leaving, can I have your parking space? Orrex Aug 2017 #72
So I see you have 2 replies in this thread calling people rude nini Aug 2017 #73

drray23

(7,637 posts)
3. slammed ? i read that thread and did not see anybody
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:06 PM
Aug 2017

slamming you. Rather, people debating and posting their opinions. After all, its a forum, its expected. Maybe I am missing something..

Demsrule86

(68,643 posts)
4. That was quite mild actually.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:07 PM
Aug 2017

You defended flying the flag of treason and Jim Crow in the name of history...A Trumpian, right wing point of view...and I didn't see any really objectionable posts directed towards you. This is a great site whether you are a lurker or a poster.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
5. Where were you slammed in that thread?
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:07 PM
Aug 2017

People just disagreed with your sentiment. Heck, only one person thanked you for your concern. If that post and the responses that you received from it inspired this, maybe you should go back to be a lurker.

VMA131Marine

(4,146 posts)
6. That thread seems pretty civil to me.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:07 PM
Aug 2017

Nobody called you a racist, or a troll. Seems like you are just mad that nobody would agree with you over what is, in truth, a piddling issue.

emulatorloo

(44,173 posts)
10. Stick around, develop a thicker skin. It is just a discussion board.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:10 PM
Aug 2017

As others have said, that thread seemed pretty civil.

If you come across a super-loud contrarian toxic person who shoves words in your mouth you didn't say , use the DU "ignore" function. It is under "My Account"

marybourg

(12,634 posts)
11. Continue lurking and reading.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:10 PM
Aug 2017

Also, click on links to articles from leading progressive publications. You will mature and increase your knowledge and political "chops". Maybe in a year or two you'll want to come back.

NotASurfer

(2,153 posts)
12. Feel free to respond to anything I post
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:12 PM
Aug 2017

I've got strident political conformists on both ends of the spectrum in my extended family, it's good to hear a few thoughtful comments from time to time.

Wonder if DU has any tools to let you block people who think the world would be so bigly better if only we would all think and act exactly the same way they do?

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
25. Absolutely You can block anyone you want.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:25 PM
Aug 2017

I think in my over a decade here i have blocked maybe three people over that time. But there are folks here with extensive block lists. I know I am blocked by quite a few people.

WhiteTara

(29,721 posts)
13. You said you were having a debate inside yourself.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:14 PM
Aug 2017

You were just given all the reasons to be on one side far more than the other. Hate symbols are never a good thing. Germany has not forgotten its horrific past and yet, there are NO memorials for the vanquished hate, only to its victims. Think about how you would feel if you were reminded daily that you were not considered a human being. That's called compassion. It is a lesson we all need to learn.

drray23

(7,637 posts)
20. thats a good point. There are no statues of
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:20 PM
Aug 2017

joseph mengele , adolf hitler, etc.. in germany. yet nobody has forgotten.

mitch96

(13,924 posts)
42. No statues of American Tories that were on the British side here in the states..
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:33 PM
Aug 2017

They have a big statue up north though.. .it's called CANADA!!!
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Phentex

(16,334 posts)
15. It takes a tougher skin to post here...
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:14 PM
Aug 2017

And you have to be willing to read with an open mind. I don't think you were blasted and you seemed to be holding your own.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
16. An op - about an op - about members of the community.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:16 PM
Aug 2017

That's how you do it.

Those replies are amazingly tame considering you state in one of the post you are coming from the mindset of Rush Limbaugh.

Who "warned" you?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. Don't take things personally here.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:17 PM
Aug 2017

Hell, I've seen long time posters get "slammed" way worse than that.

I've been ganged up on and insulted in the past. It's just words on a screen.

Consider it your initiation lol. Just don't take it personally.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
23. Because there are strong opinions here?
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:22 PM
Aug 2017

People on this board tend to have very strong opinions. I have argued with many here. I have at times fought with what felt like the whole board.

The thing that brings me back is the strong opinions. It is the bedrock foundational belief in democratic values. Sometimes those beliefs go way too far for me sometimes not nearly far enough. In then end though there are always things to learn and viewpoints to consider.

If your beliefs are so fragile you can not defend them or learn when confronted on them this place can be pretty freaking frightening especially as a low post count poster when the trust level is low.

I don't think there was anything wrong with your post. I think it is ridiculous to even give two seconds thought to what Six flags does with it's flags that I bet not 1 in 10 people could have told you what they were before today. That said that is part of this board exploring these thoughts.

This six flags debate is an obvious alt right excuse to try and deflect from the hurt caused by confederate statues. A marketing decision made by a company trying to avoid confrontation. There is no deep meaning to it. It is only being seized on to try to weaken the resolve against racism in america. to try to excuse the racism as just wanting to preserve our heritage.

It is an amusement park not a national monument.

 

IndieRick

(53 posts)
27. Where were you slammed?
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:29 PM
Aug 2017

I followed the link you provided and, unless my reading comprehensions skills have seriously eroded, I found no reason for your accusations.

pamela

(3,469 posts)
46. I know, right?
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 02:07 PM
Aug 2017

Slammed? Lol, that was tame. Mostly just people disagreeing and explaining why they disagreed.

Welcome to DU, btw.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
29. "slammed" defined...
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:32 PM
Aug 2017

To people on the right, absolute loyalty is expected. Anyone who disagrees with anything you say is "slamming" you.

To us on the left, open debate and disagreement, often strong disagreement, and sometimes even DISAGREEMENT in all caps, is the rule. The right likes to call us snowflakes, but the truth is, you can't be a lefty and be a snowflake. You have to have the strength of your convictions, and the willingness to have those convictions challenged and questioned. It's the RW that are the true snowflakes. They only hang out with others of like mind. Here on the left you'll be hard pressed to find any two people who are "of like mind". We all disagree with each other on almost every issue imaginable. If you truly want to be a lefty, you'll have to have tougher skin than Trump and his RW followers.

Remember, it wasn't Clinton who spent the whole campaign whining. It was Trump and the entire right wing, including Fox News. And they are still whining to this day about being slammed. You know who isn't whining about being slammed? Us lefties, that's who.

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
31. So says the guy that arrived on June 17th...
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:38 PM
Aug 2017

with over 810 posts. Your complaining about a post that was nothing.

ornotna

(10,805 posts)
32. These people who warned you
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:38 PM
Aug 2017

I'm curious as to what sites they recommend you should join? That was tame, I didn't see any slamming.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
36. You weren't slammed.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:46 PM
Aug 2017

I've seen people responded to harshly over comments they've made but your thread did not even come close.

You have to feel the situation and determine whether or not you want to make your argument. Expecting everyone to agree or even respond politely is quite frankly unrealistic. The admins do a very good job at handling disagreement and insult but everyone isn't always going to agree or even play nice. Sometimes disagreement will be fierce and result in harsh words. That is the nature of this kind of site. No one is going to sign up on a political Forum if they don't have strong opinions. Pick your battles.

I have been coming here for many years and registered for several. I post when I feel that I have something to share or a post moves me to contribute. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I in fact often expect disagreement. How you respond to others is entirely up to you. No offence intended but this OP only causes what you argue against. Putting people on the defensive not good...

ocd liberal

(407 posts)
37. I hear that!
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 12:55 PM
Aug 2017

Been here since 2000. I agree and support this website but if I make a comment or, God forbid, a joke - I get slammed so fast! And I hate Trump!

Not much love here anymore.

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
38. OK, then. It's your choice, isn't it?
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:03 PM
Aug 2017

People disagreed with you. People often do that here. But, I see that you already have posted again, to start this thread. Oh, well...

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
39. Hope you are lurking now. It appears that history "has" been forgotten. The history
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:06 PM
Aug 2017

forgotten is the history of "why" Confederate monuments were installed in the first place. They were installed by people who were upset with post Civil War laws and the ending of Jim Crow laws. That's one reason they need to come down. Washington and Jefferson, even with their flaws, created our "imperfect" union. Nathan Bedford Forrest and Robert E Lee wanted to destroy it. They were terrorists who trampled the American flag and created their own terrorist flag. That is the history. I was born in South Carolina. I know the lies that have been told about the reason the Civil War happened. And those that say it's not about slavery are dead wrong just like the past is dead. Though we still need to remember it as to not repeat it.

Doodley

(9,119 posts)
40. I am sorry that you have had a bad experience. There is a simple
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:27 PM
Aug 2017

solution - use the ignore button, take a break and come back another day. I look forward to reading your posts. I posted a thread very much like yours one time. I am back and I don't think anyone holds it against me or even remembers.

mitch96

(13,924 posts)
43. Same thing happens on conservative forums
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:35 PM
Aug 2017

Even a wisp of anything against their party line and your labeled as a troll. Then your banned..
This place is easy..
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Croney

(4,666 posts)
44. Where do the people who warned you post?
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:37 PM
Aug 2017

Did you report back to them and they said I-told-you-so, and if they did, did you get a good chuckle together? Many people say...

Kaleva

(36,328 posts)
48. Your skin may be too thin to be in a politcal forum.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 02:19 PM
Aug 2017

I read the thread you provided a link too and IMHO, all the comments were very mild. If there was any hidden posts, then I would say that your claim that you were slammed was justified.

One thing I learned long time ago was that if one were to express an opinion on any subject, fried chicken for example, in an online forum, then blowback is to be expected.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
49. Let it go, there are some here who believe that DI rocks ... yup, they sure do. So...
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 02:36 PM
Aug 2017

Last edited Sat Aug 19, 2017, 03:09 PM - Edit history (1)

... there's always someplace else to call home even if one's sensitivities cause them to perceive that they're unwelcome elsewhere.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
53. It's true you have to have a thick skin.
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 03:32 PM
Aug 2017

Although I usually learn something when I'm challenged. Other than that I stay in the Lounge. Hope you don't leave.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
57. I always wonder about posts that imply confederate memorials are history. History is this --
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 03:59 PM
Aug 2017

I left out lynchings, beatings, etc. Nobody needs a statute to remember this.












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OnDoutside

(19,969 posts)
59. Two comments for you....
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 04:48 PM
Aug 2017

Firstly, there was nothing wrong with those responses...very mild compared to some threads I've created in the past !

Secondly, grow a thicker skin, and keep posting. You'll find the swing of it around here in time.

Patterson

(1,531 posts)
62. Man,OP, I'm not one to mix it up, but if you get your feelings hurt
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 07:14 PM
Aug 2017

over a mild, thoughtful discussion, maybe you need to examine yourself.

Response to Catmusicfan (Original post)

Xolodno

(6,398 posts)
66. *starts Disney movie* Let it go! Let It Go! LET IT GO!
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 11:10 PM
Aug 2017

That thread was very mild and thought provoking. What do you do with the Confederate Flag? If its used purely for historical purposes, such as Six Flags or a Civil War Re-enactment.... I think its perfectly proper. Used to promote a horrible ideology, that needs to be checked. I don't agree with an out right ban.

But aside from that.

Yeah, grow some thick skin, it is the internet afterall. If someone really gets under your skin, use the ignore feature. I've blocked people who I deemed just too shallow to have a serious discussion. I'm actually getting pretty close to blocking another who either likes to pick fights on DU or has some "issues".

I come to hear differing perspectives on the left and check any bias I may have. But if someone wants a pissing contest, well, they aren't worth my time. I do have some friends on the right and I like to hear their perspective, but that's gotten very difficult as of late. Right Wing media has dumbed down anything thought provoking from the right.

nini

(16,672 posts)
73. So I see you have 2 replies in this thread calling people rude
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 12:41 PM
Aug 2017

but you do not answer any more than that? Why would you even join a discussion board if you only want to participate in discussions where everyone agrees with you?


btw: people are saying 'bye' to you because that's usually the reaction to the drama 'I'm out of here' threads. If you feel that way just do it..no need to have a dramatic exit.





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