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highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 08:33 PM Aug 2017

Haberman's take on new Bannon interview: He's "daring Cohn to quit or Kelly to fire Bannon. Or both"




Bannon either daring Cohn to quit or Kelly to fire Bannon. Or both



This is the interview she's talking about, from a writer at the American Prospect:


http://prospect.org/article/steve-bannon-unrepentant


Contrary to Trump’s threat of fire and fury, Bannon said: “There’s no military solution [to North Korea’s nuclear threats], forget it. Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.” Bannon went on to describe his battle inside the administration to take a harder line on China trade, and not to fall into a trap of wishful thinking in which complaints against China’s trade practices now had to take a backseat to the hope that China, as honest broker, would help restrain Kim.

“To me,” Bannon said, “the economic war with China is everything. And we have to be maniacally focused on that. If we continue to lose it, we're five years away, I think, ten years at the most, of hitting an inflection point from which we'll never be able to recover.”

Bannon’s plan of attack includes: a complaint under Section 301 of the 1974 Trade Act against Chinese coercion of technology transfers from American corporations doing business there, and follow-up complaints against steel and aluminum dumping. “We’re going to run the tables on these guys. We’ve come to the conclusion that they’re in an economic war and they’re crushing us.”

But what about his internal adversaries, at the departments of State and Defense, who think the United States can enlist Beijing’s aid on the North Korean standoff, and at Treasury and the National Economic Council who don’t want to mess with the trading system?

“Oh, they’re wetting themselves,” he said, explaining that the Section 301 complaint, which was put on hold when the war of threats with North Korea broke out, was shelved only temporarily, and will be revived in three weeks. As for other cabinet departments, Bannon has big plans to marginalize their influence.

“I’m changing out people at East Asian Defense; I’m getting hawks in. I’m getting Susan Thornton [acting head of East Asian and Pacific Affairs] out at State.”

But can Bannon really win that fight internally?

“That’s a fight I fight every day here,” he said. “We’re still fighting. There’s Treasury and [National Economic Council chair] Gary Cohn and Goldman Sachs lobbying.”
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
2. Is It Me Or The Link?
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:28 PM
Aug 2017

Doesn't work.

Now it's working, must be me. So how is it that...

“I’m changing out people at East Asian Defense; I’m getting hawks in. I’m getting Susan Thornton [acting head of East Asian and Pacific Affairs] out at State.”

Who put him in charge and where the hell is Kelly?

highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
3. The http://prospect.org/article/steve-bannon-unrepentant link works for me, but just in case,
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:36 PM
Aug 2017

I noticed that Habenman was linking to a Google cache of the page in that tweet:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Em_UOEnvQpQJ:prospect.org/article/steve-bannon-unrepentant+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

An article at The Hill also linked to that cached page, for some reason.

But I just checked Twitter and saw quite a few direct links to the article as well.

And Haberman used both links in different tweets.

Hope one of those will work for you.

highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
6. "If he's not fired, he's bulletproof."
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:42 PM
Aug 2017

Daniel Drezner tweet:




This isn't as profane as Scaramucci but otherwise it's the same transgression. If he's not fired, he's bulletproof. http://prospect.org/article/steve-bannon-unrepentant

highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
7. Axios: Bannon's WH colleagues can't believe what they're reading tonight, in this interview
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:55 PM
Aug 2017
https://www.axios.com/bannons-colleagues-disturbed-by-interview-with-left-wing-publication-2473835346.html


Btw, the author of that article says he can't believe Bannon meant the interview to be on the record.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
8. "This is DEFCON 1-level bad."
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:11 PM
Aug 2017
Here's what one of Bannon's colleagues — somebody who's not an enemy of his — told me after reading the piece: "Since Steve apparently enjoys casually undermining U.S. national security, I'll put this in terms he'll understand: This is DEFCON 1-level bad."


What game is Bannon playing here?


UTUSN

(70,744 posts)
10. The link/capture in the O.P. works fine. Why does BANNON open up to Oppo interviewer like Boss
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:23 PM
Aug 2017

does to HABERMAN/NYT?!1

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