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Nac Mac Feegle

(971 posts)
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:36 PM Aug 2017

Do not permit a false equivalency

No matter how many times the "Anti-Fa" are claimed to be part of the Left, they are not.

They are Anarchists; antithetical to ALL forms of government.

The Right has gone into 'what-about-ism' claiming that the Antifa are part of the Left, but they are not. Antifa is a third "side" in the political system, sowing discord and damaging ALL the others.

The Right has succumbed to (or been manipulated into) a binary Us-Versus-Them mindset, where everyone that is not them is The Big Scary Left. This permits them to have an attitude that "Everyone is out to get me", therefore everyone else is The Enemy.

Don't permit the "opponent" to make the rules for the conflict. They're not smart enough to get it right.

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Do not permit a false equivalency (Original Post) Nac Mac Feegle Aug 2017 OP
That's a bunch of baloney. The Antifa subscribe to a wide range of political beliefs. Coventina Aug 2017 #1
Nah. We are united in nothing with these nihilists. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #4
You are showing complete ignorance of what you are condemnimg. Coventina Aug 2017 #5
Hardly. I know exactly what this movement represents... Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #7
No, you don't understand. Coventina Aug 2017 #9
We need to drive Antifa away. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #2
I am Antifa. ck4829 Aug 2017 #3
Tough one. I think this can be a good discussion. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #6
No way that "that best of the best" associates with violent Antifa extremists. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #8
You clearly don't understand what antifa is. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #10
I clearly DO understand Antifa. Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #11

Coventina

(27,159 posts)
1. That's a bunch of baloney. The Antifa subscribe to a wide range of political beliefs.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:37 PM
Aug 2017

They are united in being anti-fascist, that is all.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
4. Nah. We are united in nothing with these nihilists.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:41 PM
Aug 2017

The worst mistake we can make is to allow it to seem like we are in common cause with Antifa.

They only help the Nazis.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
7. Hardly. I know exactly what this movement represents...
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 06:01 PM
Aug 2017

and who it helps. It helps the Nazis.

Antifa is an enemy of liberalism. I don't understand (or appreciate) your game, but I'm not falling for it.

Coventina

(27,159 posts)
9. No, you don't understand.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 06:05 PM
Aug 2017

And, I've been here since 2002, I'm not playing games.

If I were anti-liberal, I wouldn't still be here.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
2. We need to drive Antifa away.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:39 PM
Aug 2017

We can not afford to be seen in any sort of coalition with these violent extremists who do nothing but aid the Nazis.

Fuck off Nazis. Fuck off Antifa.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
6. Tough one. I think this can be a good discussion.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:45 PM
Aug 2017

Antifa has some of the best of the best in their ranks. People I'm proud to be associated with. They also attract some horrendous individuals. That more negative side opens the door for right wing disrupters.

They are not "we" as a whole.

 

Expecting Rain

(811 posts)
11. I clearly DO understand Antifa.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 06:11 PM
Aug 2017

They relist the Hitler First, Then Us stategy. They want things to get bloody. it serves the group's fanatical purposes.

Liberals need to tell Antifa to fuck off!

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