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zanana1
(6,124 posts)I guess we shouldn't be too surprised. At the Trump campaign rallies, protestors were met with fists, not debate.
Shell_Seas
(3,335 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)attempting to do his duty in speaking about the atrocity without criticizing his base.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I cannot even begin to imagine the mentality of grown men dressing up like GI Joe or storm troopers and parading around in public. You just know they never served in the military. They are warped.
That third picture is odd.... I thought the guy in the white suit was on "their" side from other pictures I looked at. The goon who is manhandling him is the same miscreant from the second picture. Hope someone ID's him.
riversedge
(70,272 posts)Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)Take a guess which is which?
Expecting Rain
(811 posts)We would "win" the PR war against the Nazis easily if all the counter-protestors looked and acted like these folks.
But the violent extremists in Antifa are fucking it all up and they help the Nazis to spin a counter narrative.
Liberals should dissociate from violent anarchists. They are enemies, not allies. We lose by association.
obamanut2012
(26,094 posts)Expecting Rain
(811 posts)The Antifa movement only helps the Nazis and hurts liberals and Democrats.
We need to disassociate from these violent assholes.
moda253
(615 posts)Of course I am mischaracterizing you just a bit, but that's because we are closer to an absolutely ugly reality than mmost people care to admit.
Are a lot of these Nazi white supremacists a bunch of talk? Of course they are, but a lot of them aren't. But just because they aren't going to actually do anything violent doesn't mean that they aren't a MASSIVE part of the problem. Just like people that add to the problem by being indifferent. There can be absolutely no room for this ideology to take root in our country. These people are preaching a message of hate, at the very least they want to bring back ideas such as legal slavery, and at the worst they want to eradicate races from our society.
There is not enough love to turn this type of evil. These people are becoming emboldened to a fervor that we haven't seen before. We made the decision only decades ago that this ideology needed to be thoroughly defeated and we lost countless lives to defeat that because it was absolutely necessary. I for one am not willing to let this fester here in our country and wait until it is too late to start fighting to keep it from taking hold here.
Now, I'm not going looking for a fight. But I'm not going to back down from it when it presents itself either. We have a president that is emboldening this scum. We have concepts being adopted that harken back to the ugliest of periods of our existence. Walls, Deportations, rights being taken away, elections being tampered with.
Now I agree with you that we cannot just have anarchy. But when we have armed self described Nazis walking our streets and they are organizing and planning large scale rallies weekly, on the heels of a presidential campaign that fomented this type of activity.... It's time to start thinking about what we are going to do as a people to say "No we do not accept this".
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I feel like I'm about to blow a chip or something.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,189 posts)Seriously, what the fuck is that? GI Joe cosplay?
B2G
(9,766 posts)Here's another pic of him.
BannonsLiver
(16,434 posts)He was outed on the You're a Racist twitter feed.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Which makes me wonder why he's being pummeled by another one in that last photo.
Tracer
(2,769 posts)NT
Stinky The Clown
(67,817 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)shows one of them carrying a large sign with LOVE on it.
The nazi killer aimed his death machine right at it!
Violence on both sides my ass Mr Russian puppet/president!!!!