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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:22 AM Aug 2017

Nazi marcher gets outed, whines "I'm not the angry racist they see in that photo

Hopefully this will lead to a life of unemployment for him.

http://www.ktvn.com/story/36123640/unr-student-marches-in-charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally


“I came to this march for the message that white European culture has a right to be here just like every other culture, “Cvjetanovic says. “It is not perfect; there are flaws to it, of course. However I do believe that the replacement of the statue will be the slow replacement of white heritage within the United States and the people who fought and defended and built their homeland. Robert E Lee is a great example of that. He wasn’t a perfect man, but I want to honor and respect what he stood for during his time.”

Photos of Cvjetanovic protesting circulated on social media, denouncing Cvjetanovic as a racist.

“I did not expect the photo to be shared as much as it was. I understand the photo has a very negative connotation. But I hope that the people sharing the photo are willing to listen that I’m not the angry racist they see in that photo.”


Wimpy snowflake Nazis are the worst Nazis.
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Nazi marcher gets outed, whines "I'm not the angry racist they see in that photo (Original Post) geek tragedy Aug 2017 OP
Actions have consequences DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #1
Looks angry to me: L. Coyote Aug 2017 #18
Perfect comparison. Identical facial expressions. yardwork Aug 2017 #63
He wants to "honor and respect" what Robert E Lee stood for. So he is exactly the angry racist Squinch Aug 2017 #2
Exactly...you captured my thoughts as well! Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #43
Yep! neeksgeek Aug 2017 #59
Lee and Davis wanted the flag to come down. muntrv Aug 2017 #145
Pretty daring Kogaratsu72 Aug 2017 #3
He travels from Reno to Charlottesville and we are supposed to think he is NOT rzemanfl Aug 2017 #4
Next job: youth outreach for the trump administration. Nt lostnfound Aug 2017 #26
Article says he was a student at the University. So, no, did not travel for it. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #84
Student at University of Nevada Reno crazycatlady Aug 2017 #86
Maybe you are right. The source is a Reno TV station. Bad writing to not make it clear. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #91
I took UNR in the headline as University of Nevada-Reno. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2017 #87
Good catch. I didn't see that, so turns out I was wrong. Thanks. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #92
No problem. I think the University of Virginia has higher admission standards. rzemanfl Aug 2017 #95
when you hang out with nazis freddyvh Aug 2017 #5
Yes he is. Kber Aug 2017 #6
He didn't expect the photo to be shared? mcar Aug 2017 #7
Some people seem to have the idea Mariana Aug 2017 #69
No worries. Dr. Gorka will give him a doctoral degree in White People's Studies dalton99a Aug 2017 #8
If you act like a racist, many will call you a racist, dude. MineralMan Aug 2017 #9
"Stupid angry racist" perhaps? PufPuf23 Aug 2017 #72
Yes. MineralMan Aug 2017 #73
Isn't "stupid angry racist" redunant? JPPaverage Aug 2017 #89
Too late hotplate Salviati Aug 2017 #10
As a white nationalist, I care for all people. We all deserve a future for our children and for our riversedge Aug 2017 #11
"we just want to preserve what we have. TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #19
He doesn't have jack shit SonofDonald Aug 2017 #120
Hmmmmm....Cvjetanovic? TrishaJ Aug 2017 #46
Polish or Slav more likely. bullimiami Aug 2017 #48
Ex yugo - definitely......eastern europe is massively racist, that whole germanic/russian blood. sunonmars Aug 2017 #51
family name is traced from bosnia, serbia, croatia, so yup ex yugo. sunonmars Aug 2017 #52
Yep, I'm guessing Croatia (part of former Yugoslavia) SunSeeker Aug 2017 #96
Typical Croatian name DFW Aug 2017 #123
I hope all of those people get outed. cwydro Aug 2017 #12
Cvjetanovic looks plently angry to me CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #13
Also has the Hitler thing going on with his hair. Blue_true Aug 2017 #30
You are not alone on that thought CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #49
Wow, my first thought also. Thats some spooky shit........... Old Vet Aug 2017 #66
so did the kid who rammed the car into the protestors m-lekktor Aug 2017 #94
It's done on purpose -- it's called a "fashy" obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #100
Yup, first thing you notice, hitler haircut... SonofDonald Aug 2017 #121
You know, he actually has a face that makes him look like Hitler. Blue_true Aug 2017 #124
I noticed that too. Inspired this. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #153
Pretty scary looking dude. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #53
Family most likely had NOTHING to do with the civil war. Blue_true Aug 2017 #56
Or were Nazi sympathizers smuggled into the country after the war thucythucy Aug 2017 #134
My first thought was he looks like a young Tom DeLay. Full of hate and bluster. suffragette Aug 2017 #98
Check out the Photoshop job! csziggy Aug 2017 #113
I know I could beat the crap out of that little snowflake Skittles Aug 2017 #117
He looks livid, and, correct me if I'm wrong, but whathehell Aug 2017 #133
yes, see post #30 on down CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #140
Yes, as soon as I posted, I saw all the others.. whathehell Aug 2017 #144
They are all so very afraid of race mixing. vlyons Aug 2017 #14
Some will lose their jobs Johnny2X2X Aug 2017 #15
Deservedly so. The more of those racist, fascist, Nazi cretins who MineralMan Aug 2017 #16
I agree. nt Blue_true Aug 2017 #32
They are bad for a company's business. I would never hire nazis, be it house painter or cpa. nt AnotherMother4Peace Aug 2017 #24
Yes, that much hate means they are not a "team player". roamer65 Aug 2017 #25
Gosh, maybe he shouldn't act like an angry racist then! WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #17
Compassionate racisism? NurseJackie Aug 2017 #20
They all need an ancestry DNA test DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #21
I would rather think... syringis Aug 2017 #85
Yes, inbreeding has genetic consequences DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #122
Tell that boy to spend time polishing his jackboots. Blue_true Aug 2017 #22
"what he stood for"? procon Aug 2017 #23
Too bad it didn't make him see himself as others see him. DavidDvorkin Aug 2017 #27
Wtf is he talking about. Robert E Lee didn't defend his homeland or white culture. He was fighting SweetieD Aug 2017 #28
They're always such cowards Bladewire Aug 2017 #29
Hold on folks, this guy could be totally chill. denbot Aug 2017 #31
Meth and hate... helluva combo. Raster Aug 2017 #41
Don't see any evidence of meth. Mariana Aug 2017 #143
You hung around with neonazis what other idea do you think we got? sunonmars Aug 2017 #33
He drove across a continent to hang out with Nazis. nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #50
The outrageous thing about all of this is........ sunonmars Aug 2017 #34
It's like a statue of Osama bin Laden Nevernose Aug 2017 #35
This just shows their stupidity Butterflylady Aug 2017 #36
"I'm not a racist, I just pretend to be one on TV. Downtown Hound Aug 2017 #37
Ding! Raster Aug 2017 #38
He studies history and political science and didn't understand the ramifications? BULLSHIT! bitterross Aug 2017 #39
The little shit knows exactly what he is doing. sunonmars Aug 2017 #40
We were good Germans... Raster Aug 2017 #42
What is he talking about? syringis Aug 2017 #44
There's nothing more pathetic C_U_L8R Aug 2017 #45
Sorry Pete. It's time to realize you may be the racist you appear to be. bullimiami Aug 2017 #47
that last name cvoogt Aug 2017 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Aug 2017 #58
Why would they shoot a loyal ally of the Nazis? Brother Buzz Aug 2017 #67
I know cvoogt Aug 2017 #75
If it looks like a duck... WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2017 #55
When will people finally realize Lee was a traitor? Lee fought to enslave people rurallib Aug 2017 #57
Because if you hold those standards Lithos Aug 2017 #151
BREAKING: he has friends..... brooklynite Aug 2017 #60
That arrow is not pointing to Heller, who is standing next to that person (behind the young woman) alcibiades_mystery Aug 2017 #70
Heller's the older guy next to the student labeled Heller. argyl Aug 2017 #102
Isn't Dean Heller the one just off the woman's left shoulder? Blue_true Aug 2017 #125
A Senator with this guy and Rep. Tom Garrett with Kessler underpants Aug 2017 #155
Whiny snowflake nazis (equals) all of the nazis. Mc Mike Aug 2017 #61
Yeah, neither was Gring, you piece of shit. Orrex Aug 2017 #62
I hope he gets to suffer a lifetime of unemployment. lark Aug 2017 #64
Identify as many as possible and make sure their employers know about it. Vinca Aug 2017 #65
He's not angry, he's singing Silent Night, Kristallnacht, or dae Aug 2017 #68
the great melting pot weydowner Aug 2017 #71
"I'm the cute, perky racist who makes everyone do their happy dance!" Ken Burch Aug 2017 #74
I have yet to hear anyone say that white European culture has not right to be here. Have you? haveahart Aug 2017 #76
Where does he see white people PatSeg Aug 2017 #77
They manufacture 'white persecution' to justify their actions CakeGrrl Aug 2017 #103
Yes PatSeg Aug 2017 #135
Some sort of right-wing delusion, that.... Beartracks Aug 2017 #147
True PatSeg Aug 2017 #149
Does the little jackass not realize it is 2017---not 1817? Grammy23 Aug 2017 #78
Someone needs to inform this man of Croatian descent QC Aug 2017 #79
Really. And he's a history student?? Does he not know that he would have Nay Aug 2017 #157
Cvjetanovic, Nazis expressing solidarity with the Confederacy... Beartracks Aug 2017 #80
"Wimpy Snowflake Nazis" SCantiGOP Aug 2017 #82
Lol Yes it is! Beartracks Aug 2017 #106
I'm picturing a swastika-shaped snowflake as their logo. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #107
A museum hall of shame rusty fender Aug 2017 #118
Why would we want him to be an unemployed, bitter drain on society? Beartracks Aug 2017 #81
not unless he does something like ODing on drugs or just moving back in with his parents nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #90
I am happy he will now understand what it means to be ostracized. Chemisse Aug 2017 #83
Yeah dude, you're a Nazi. Get over yourself. Initech Aug 2017 #88
Oh so that's the "negative connotation" underpants Aug 2017 #154
Watch Mississippi Burning mshasta Aug 2017 #93
Hitler Youth TheCowsCameHome Aug 2017 #97
Looks like a real nice boy left-of-center2012 Aug 2017 #99
Finally... syringis Aug 2017 #111
Where does he work? maxrandb Aug 2017 #101
Oh, boo fucking hoo. Straight white males are the most privileged in this society, yet catbyte Aug 2017 #104
My thoughts, exactly. Lifelong Protester Aug 2017 #108
Yes. Yes, you are an angry racist. And now the world knows it. nt neeksgeek Aug 2017 #105
Sorry, angry white racist, but when the "white heritage" you are trying to protect Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #109
That photo has gotten a subtle PhotoShop alteration csziggy Aug 2017 #110
I understand DemoTex just fell into some advanced super-duper photoshop software Brother Buzz Aug 2017 #115
I did Nazi that coming. 6000eliot Aug 2017 #112
It was only a matter of time before liquid diamond Aug 2017 #114
"We want to preserve what we have" Skittles Aug 2017 #116
Okay matt819 Aug 2017 #119
Don't believe your lying eyes. CentralMass Aug 2017 #126
Even if he's the best of those assembled Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #127
Dumbass. There's no taking that back. underpants Aug 2017 #128
Looks like a pretty poster boy for recruiting Nazi Brownshirt boys lunatica Aug 2017 #129
"I'm incredibly racist, but that photo makes me look incredibly racist." VOX Aug 2017 #130
...you are now! Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #131
"the photo has a very negative connotation..." yellowcanine Aug 2017 #132
"I'm not a racist." PatSeg Aug 2017 #136
why do they always say "THIS IS NOT WHO I AM" Skittles Aug 2017 #141
I know PatSeg Aug 2017 #142
I agree Skittles Aug 2017 #148
I have known a lot of proud racists in my life PatSeg Aug 2017 #150
I don't want him to be unemployed drmeow Aug 2017 #137
If the shoe fits, young man. raven mad Aug 2017 #138
Plaster that asshole's picture everywhere .. Hieronymus Aug 2017 #139
Bullshit. Cvjetanovic is nothing more than a nazi. PatrickforO Aug 2017 #146
I keep seeing this from theses folks JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #152
Boo Hoo Gothmog Aug 2017 #156

Squinch

(51,000 posts)
2. He wants to "honor and respect" what Robert E Lee stood for. So he is exactly the angry racist
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:24 AM
Aug 2017

we see in that photo.

And he is too stupid to even understand that.

rzemanfl

(29,567 posts)
4. He travels from Reno to Charlottesville and we are supposed to think he is NOT
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:25 AM
Aug 2017

a fucking Nazi? I hope he is ostracized by the other students, the racist shit.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
91. Maybe you are right. The source is a Reno TV station. Bad writing to not make it clear.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:55 PM
Aug 2017

After all, the protest was at the Virginia university campus.

rzemanfl

(29,567 posts)
95. No problem. I think the University of Virginia has higher admission standards.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:00 PM
Aug 2017

Reno, four cherries in a row would probably get you in. Four bars might be good for a PhD.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
69. Some people seem to have the idea
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:23 PM
Aug 2017

that if they go out and do things to draw attention to themselves in public, and in front of cameras, no one important will notice and it won't cost them anything.

What's really funny is that after this statement, he won't only be ostracised by the decent people he knows at home, he'll also be shunned by his fellow racists, because he's publicly said he's not one of them.

dalton99a

(81,570 posts)
8. No worries. Dr. Gorka will give him a doctoral degree in White People's Studies
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:28 AM
Aug 2017

and a well-paying job in the Trump White House

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
9. If you act like a racist, many will call you a racist, dude.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:29 AM
Aug 2017

Besides, if you're not "the angry racist," what kind of racist are you?

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
10. Too late hotplate
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:29 AM
Aug 2017

You're the new face of nazis in America. Hope you're enjoying your 15 minutes of fame, because the rest of us certainly aren't

riversedge

(70,299 posts)
11. As a white nationalist, I care for all people. We all deserve a future for our children and for our
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:29 AM
Aug 2017

Trump basically said the same about loving all--except for proclaiming himself a white nationalist.



.........However Cvjetanovic, a self-proclaimed white nationalist, defends his beliefs.

“As a white nationalist, I care for all people. We all deserve a future for our children and for our culture. White nationalists aren’t all hateful; we just want to preserve what we have.”

TexasBushwhacker

(20,213 posts)
19. "we just want to preserve what we have.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:47 AM
Aug 2017

Meaning, we want to go back to the days when we didn't have to compete with blacks, Latinos and women for goods jobs.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
120. He doesn't have jack shit
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:58 PM
Aug 2017

Still in school, probably never had a job in his life but wants to "Preserve what we have", it's obvious he's so full of shit it's laughable and his statement was taken from the wrong wing media talking points.

Acts like the only reason he was there is because he took a wrong turn somewhere and got lost.

His future "Do you want fries with that ?"

TrishaJ

(798 posts)
46. Hmmmmm....Cvjetanovic?
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:32 AM
Aug 2017

Is that Russian? Where did his family immigrate from? Perhaps he should go back.

SunSeeker

(51,678 posts)
96. Yep, I'm guessing Croatia (part of former Yugoslavia)
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:01 PM
Aug 2017

Croatians allied with the Nazis during WWII, because they're Catholic and thought that fellow Catholic Hitler would clear out the Eastern Orthodox Serbians, Jews, Muslims and Roma gypsies. There were Croatian-run Nazi concentration camps in Yugoslavia during WWII.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
123. Typical Croatian name
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 04:06 PM
Aug 2017

Cvjetanović-"Tsvyetanovitch"

Atypical of Croatians I have met there since the 1970s, but maybe those who fled when their Ustaše Nazi-collaboration movement collapsed brought their sentiments with them. Or maybe this guy is just scum who fell in with a neo-Nazi crowd and would have turned out the same if his name had been Williams. We can't know from his name alone.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
12. I hope all of those people get outed.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:30 AM
Aug 2017

Sad they don't even see the need to wear their hoods anymore.

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
13. Cvjetanovic looks plently angry to me
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:31 AM
Aug 2017


If the shoe fits wear it you racist pig! He's wearing his white polo shirt (and khaki pants too?) as evidence.



Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
30. Also has the Hitler thing going on with his hair.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:04 AM
Aug 2017

When I first saw his picture yesterday that was the first thought in my mind.

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
49. You are not alone on that thought
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:44 AM
Aug 2017

At first I wondered if it was a wig!

He's got the "uniform" on in any event.

Gawd these people suck!



m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
94. so did the kid who rammed the car into the protestors
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:00 PM
Aug 2017

He had the haircut like Richard Spencer as well.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
121. Yup, first thing you notice, hitler haircut...
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:02 PM
Aug 2017

He'll have the mustache too when he gets old enough to grow hair on his face.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
124. You know, he actually has a face that makes him look like Hitler.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 04:58 PM
Aug 2017

Maybe when the next movie is made with Nazis in it, he can be cast as Hitler. I have a feeling that he will need the work.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
53. Pretty scary looking dude.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:50 AM
Aug 2017

Eastern European last name. I'm sure his family was at one time persona non grata in this country. Yet he turns around and wants to deny rights to others.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
56. Family most likely had NOTHING to do with the civil war.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:56 AM
Aug 2017

His only claim to his "heritage" connection to the confederacy is he is White. His family most likely slipped in or came over in a boat in the 30's to escape Hitler.

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
140. yes, see post #30 on down
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 08:25 PM
Aug 2017

There is some discussion about the hair-do.

Seems we are not the only ones that noticed the similarity!



whathehell

(29,090 posts)
144. Yes, as soon as I posted, I saw all the others..
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 03:19 AM
Aug 2017

I thought "All he needs is the 'stache" and then someone even did a Photoshop to give him one!

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
14. They are all so very afraid of race mixing.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:38 AM
Aug 2017

Afraid that their white women might actually prefer a pretty brown-skinned man to live with and bear children with. Afraid a pretty brown-skinned woman might steal away their precious little white boys and give them some mixed-race grandchildren. Afraid to send their kids to public school, where they might be forced to sit next to a brown-skinned kid. Afraid their kid might actually want to go to the prom with a brown-skinned date. Racism is taught at a very early age, before a kid is 6, or 7, or 8. Racists have to be carefully taught.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
15. Some will lose their jobs
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:41 AM
Aug 2017

Some of them will lose their jobs. In many cases their employers will not have much of a choice but to fire them. And their kids are going to suffer too, there is little room in most people's lives for Nazism. These people will learn why the cowards in the KKK wore hoods before Trump came along.

I know if I found out someone I work with attended a Nazi rally I would ask that they be removed from my team.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
16. Deservedly so. The more of those racist, fascist, Nazi cretins who
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:43 AM
Aug 2017

are exposed and suffer consequences, the better, as far as I am concerned.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
25. Yes, that much hate means they are not a "team player".
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:59 AM
Aug 2017

It means they are a dangerous agitator.

I would do the same if I found out one was on my team at work. I wouldn't stop until I got them canned.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
85. I would rather think...
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:51 PM
Aug 2017

...they are.

Which is really not good. Purity tends to produce people disabled, having a lot of health problems, an immune system depressed...

I said it as I could in English

I can be more explicite in french

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
122. Yes, inbreeding has genetic consequences
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:47 PM
Aug 2017

That's actually a problem in the Amish community here in Pennsylvania. There's a relatively rare genetic condition that occurs much more frequently in the Amish than the general population.

But, I think these folks aren't inbred and would show a variety of origins if their ancestory was DNA traced.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. Tell that boy to spend time polishing his jackboots.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:52 AM
Aug 2017

That is all the work that he will have. Any business that hired him will get boycotted.

procon

(15,805 posts)
23. "what he stood for"?
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:53 AM
Aug 2017

Failed USHistory-101, he did. He has a romanticised impression that men like Lee were fighting to preserve a heritage that was onl found in coffee table picture book and old postcards. His view of the Grand Old South is Greek revival architectural gems, Antebellum couture, steamboats and Clark Gable lookalikes mounted on fine horses in gilded Hollywood frippery.

If Lee stood for anything it was to secure his wealthy lifestyle. Cvjetanovic would rather not admit that heritage was built on the backs of people who were stolen away from their homeland to sweat and toil out their lives so the Southern aristocracy could fancy themselves entitled to live like kings.

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
28. Wtf is he talking about. Robert E Lee didn't defend his homeland or white culture. He was fighting
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:03 AM
Aug 2017

to ensure that the south could continue to enslave black Americans and deny blacks rights of citizenship.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
33. You hung around with neonazis what other idea do you think we got?
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:09 AM
Aug 2017

You are a neo nazi if you hang around with neo nazis........simple as.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
34. The outrageous thing about all of this is........
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:14 AM
Aug 2017

They want AA's and other minorities to "go home" .....this guy is ex yugo- croatian descended, not surprised as one of the most racist areas of the planet.

Should'nt he be deporting himself and giving the land back to the indians........

Not to mention there is scientific evidence that white people are descendents from african origin, so these guys are basically african descended.

I always freak the hell out of them when i point this out.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
35. It's like a statue of Osama bin Laden
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:15 AM
Aug 2017

Some people would have a problem if we insisted that a government owned statue of a terrorist were removed to a museum (although it deserves dynamite).

Those people can fuck themselves, and so can the sympathizers of traitors.

(By the way: General Lee was opposed to statues honoring the Confederacy, the Confederates, or their cause. Taking down the statue is honoring the man's explicit wishes)

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
37. "I'm not a racist, I just pretend to be one on TV.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:18 AM
Aug 2017

Then I act surprised and offended that anybody would think I'm a racist."

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
39. He studies history and political science and didn't understand the ramifications? BULLSHIT!
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:21 AM
Aug 2017

I call bullshit! Either that or he's a really, really bad student.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
44. What is he talking about?
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:29 AM
Aug 2017

European culture?

Does he think there is only culture ? For all Europeans? 27 countries. 24 languages. Various traditions, habits, way of life.

He mix that all in one? And this mythic newly invented "European white (!!) culture" has a right to be in America just like others?

What the hell is his talking about????

Of course, as every brainshit trump's support, he is very coherent :

Robert E Lee is a great example of that. He wasn’t a perfect man, but I want to honor and respect what he stood for during his time.”


Not racist...no. He just want to honor Lee for what he stood for...Is not that one who believed that slavery was a God Will?

He can't even understand what he is talking about, but pretends to fight for "American white heritage"?



Response to cvoogt (Reply #54)

Brother Buzz

(36,461 posts)
67. Why would they shoot a loyal ally of the Nazis?
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:20 PM
Aug 2017

Croatia had its own splendid ethnic cleansing thing going on during World War II.

cvoogt

(949 posts)
75. I know
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:29 PM
Aug 2017

Nazis only tolerated allied Slavs out of pragmatism; their ideal scenario would have involved the genocide of all Slavs, including Croats. My point was just how misguided these neo-fascists are in promoting an ideology that cannot be separated from not just 'mere' genocidal policies but the actual murder of millions of people.

rurallib

(62,448 posts)
57. When will people finally realize Lee was a traitor? Lee fought to enslave people
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:01 PM
Aug 2017

There is nothing noble in those positions.

For the life of me I can not understand why this country celebrates men like Lee and Davis et al.
Every statue of them should come down tomorrow, every school, street, building or urinal named for them should be renamed tomorrow.
152 years is way too long to let this linger.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
70. That arrow is not pointing to Heller, who is standing next to that person (behind the young woman)
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:23 PM
Aug 2017

These are things that are easy to get right. That guy with the arrow pointing to him is visibly too young to be a Senator.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
102. Heller's the older guy next to the student labeled Heller.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:19 PM
Aug 2017

Looks like Heller has at least five supporters who are UNR students. Most impressive. Or maybe not.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
125. Isn't Dean Heller the one just off the woman's left shoulder?
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:05 PM
Aug 2017

Notice the Nazi haircut on the guy third from the left?

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
61. Whiny snowflake nazis (equals) all of the nazis.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:10 PM
Aug 2017

Last edited Tue Aug 15, 2017, 05:58 PM - Edit history (1)

So they're all the worst.

lark

(23,155 posts)
64. I hope he gets to suffer a lifetime of unemployment.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:14 PM
Aug 2017

If he wasn't that person, who is it in the picture? It's him and what he's trying to hide, pure hate and racism.

weydowner

(100 posts)
71. the great melting pot
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:23 PM
Aug 2017

From that name, he's hardly Aryan' - that sub-section was united in its hatred of the Slavs. Or is white skin the trump-card (sorry; couldn't find a better word) in these losers?
Reminds me too much of the toxic Serbian (substitute any other 'other')a nationalism that so many Europeans had to escape poor old Europe for.

This stupid child - I hope - will have this photograph hanging (metaphorically) round his neck for the rest of his life, and a good thing too.

 

haveahart

(905 posts)
76. I have yet to hear anyone say that white European culture has not right to be here. Have you?
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:32 PM
Aug 2017

What is he talking about? White European culture is dominant and in control. Others are just affirming that they have a right to be here and un-oppressed.

PatSeg

(47,583 posts)
77. Where does he see white people
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:34 PM
Aug 2017

not having the "right to be here just like every other culture"? I am white and I can't think of a single problem that I've had in my life that was because of my race. Sounds like he is trying to either justify his failures or his racism, probably both.

What rights has he lost because of other cultures or races?

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
103. They manufacture 'white persecution' to justify their actions
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:19 PM
Aug 2017

Ultimately, I think it can be traced to fear of becoming the minority, and the perceived associated retaliation they could face at the hands of those groups that they know have TRULY been oppressed by whites over history.

And that, to me, explains why they sound so confused and contradictory trying to explain their position. They unsuccessfully claim to 'love everyone', but all their thoughts track back to protecting their [stolen] homeland, heritage, and their racial majority.

PatSeg

(47,583 posts)
135. Yes
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:20 PM
Aug 2017

I think fear is the main driver in this. Knowing what white people have done to minorities, they're afraid it will come back at them.

I sometimes see this attitude in some men in regard to women. They don't want to be treated the way they've treated the women in their lives. Unfortunately they don't realize that not all people are jerks like they are.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
147. Some sort of right-wing delusion, that....
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 12:14 PM
Aug 2017

... granting/expanding rights to others must somehow be diminishing one's own rights.

And they see it this way because they are selfish, me-first kind of people.

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Grammy23

(5,812 posts)
78. Does the little jackass not realize it is 2017---not 1817?
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:34 PM
Aug 2017

We have cameras, we have social media. Things can get spread around the globe in a heartbeat. So his image gets captured at this "rally" showing his snarling, hate filled mug and he is having second thoughts?? Before he jumped in his Pinto and headed cross country for Charlottesville, what did he think he was going to do when he got there? Have a picnic with sack races and swimming in the creek? Or was he already anticipating the hate filled rally? Had he already gone to Wal-Mart and found his tiki torch in the clearance aisle? Was his suitcase packed with the required uniform of the Neo Nazis?

This young man is finding out the hard way that there are consequences to our behavior. If you bed down with mangy dogs, you might pick up a few fleas and other maladies. Maybe he thought he was just going to Virginia for a lark, but he damn sure is finding out one mistake, one snap decision can have life long consequences. Let his story be a cautionary tale to others who jump on the bandwagon of a bad idea. tRump voters are you listening??

QC

(26,371 posts)
79. Someone needs to inform this man of Croatian descent
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:36 PM
Aug 2017

that the Nazis he so admires considered the Slavs genetic inferiors who would be exterminated in due time so that their land could be given to genuine Aryans.

Some people are too dumb even to hate properly.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
157. Really. And he's a history student?? Does he not know that he would have
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 11:25 AM
Aug 2017

been exterminated by the Nazis he so adores? How is this sort of gross ignorance possible?

Oh, never mind. The human race is a giant clusterfuck.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
80. Cvjetanovic, Nazis expressing solidarity with the Confederacy...
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:37 PM
Aug 2017

... is all you need to know about the Confederacy to warrant removing its icons from places of honor and relocating them to museums where they can serve as history lessons rather than as objects of public pride.

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Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
81. Why would we want him to be an unemployed, bitter drain on society?
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:40 PM
Aug 2017

We'd have to support his sorry ignorant ass.

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Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
83. I am happy he will now understand what it means to be ostracized.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:49 PM
Aug 2017

Which is what he so fervently wishes for others.

mshasta

(2,108 posts)
93. Watch Mississippi Burning
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:59 PM
Aug 2017

Watch Mississippi Burning that movie repeats history over and over and over....Everyone can learn from it

syringis

(5,101 posts)
111. Finally...
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:27 PM
Aug 2017

...he is saying the truth...

He is not angry.

He is devastated : he just heard of Hitler's death. It's a shock to lose such great spiritual guide..

maxrandb

(15,350 posts)
101. Where does he work?
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:18 PM
Aug 2017

Maybe his employer needs to be informed that they have racist in their employ. Maybe they need to fire this guy. Maybe if they don't, "fire and fury" should rain on them.

Figuratively, of course.

catbyte

(34,444 posts)
104. Oh, boo fucking hoo. Straight white males are the most privileged in this society, yet
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:19 PM
Aug 2017

they're the biggest goddamned whiners & professional victims. I can't imagine what they would do if they were faced with actual oppression.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
109. Sorry, angry white racist, but when the "white heritage" you are trying to protect
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:24 PM
Aug 2017

is the fact that your people carried out a bloody rebellion against the United States of America because the bad ole USA wanted to stop you enslaving other human beings, that "heritage" needs to be rejected, not honored.

Brother Buzz

(36,461 posts)
115. I understand DemoTex just fell into some advanced super-duper photoshop software
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:36 PM
Aug 2017

I expect to see more creative photoshopping from him in the future

Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks?

 

liquid diamond

(1,917 posts)
114. It was only a matter of time before
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:30 PM
Aug 2017

these assholes were exposed. And to think there are posters here who are opposed to these racists being doxed. smdh.

Btw he looks like a young Hitler.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
119. Okay
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:53 PM
Aug 2017

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

He's not an angry racist.

He's a plain old ordinary racist.

Happy now, racist?

BTW, please keep us updated on your job search.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
127. Even if he's the best of those assembled
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:15 PM
Aug 2017

a turd is a turd.

Enjoy your 15 minutes, a-hole. Let's hope it's 16.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
130. "I'm incredibly racist, but that photo makes me look incredibly racist."
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:27 PM
Aug 2017

Sorry, kid, you hitched your wagon to this crap, and now the tab has come due. Are you crying? There's no crying in white supremacy!

PatSeg

(47,583 posts)
142. I know
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:28 PM
Aug 2017

Its not like the old days when racists proudly proclaimed who and what they were. These are a bunch of sniveling little whiny assholes, who don't have the courage to admit what they really believe. If you aren't going to stand for something, just stay in your mom's basement and play video games. Actually that would be best anyway.

PatSeg

(47,583 posts)
150. I have known a lot of proud racists in my life
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 07:10 AM
Aug 2017

And they didn't hesitate to wear their racism as a badge of honor. As awful as they were, at least they didn't pretend they were anything other than who they were. I'm so tired of these wishy-washy racists, "I'm not a racist, but........."

drmeow

(5,024 posts)
137. I don't want him to be unemployed
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:30 PM
Aug 2017

that would be a burden on me, a gainfully employed citizen, and it would leave him with more time to be an asshole. I'd rather he got a dead end job that keeps him so busy and leaves him so exhausted that he doesn't have the time or energy to be this kind of a jerk. Since he'll be the primary breadwinner for his (undoubtedly large family) I hope it pays just enough to keep him off public assistance but not enough for any true luxuries and definitely not for cross country flights.

PatrickforO

(14,587 posts)
146. Bullshit. Cvjetanovic is nothing more than a nazi.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 10:24 AM
Aug 2017

And, since nazis are by definition racist, he is racist.

Since nazis are by definition genocidal, he is genocidal.

These white supremacists are nothing more than homicidal criminals. Trump is a criminal. Those in his administration who support nazis and who betrayed this nation with Russia are criminals.

JustAnotherGen

(31,874 posts)
152. I keep seeing this from theses folks
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 07:34 AM
Aug 2017
European culture has a right to be here just like every other culture

It is here.
And - it is all over Europe.

They really are sick twists. No one wants to eliminate the footprint of white people from Europe. We are just asking folks like him to sit down, shut up, and coexist. What a dumb fuck.
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