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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNazi marcher gets outed, whines "I'm not the angry racist they see in that photo
Hopefully this will lead to a life of unemployment for him.
http://www.ktvn.com/story/36123640/unr-student-marches-in-charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally
I came to this march for the message that white European culture has a right to be here just like every other culture, Cvjetanovic says. It is not perfect; there are flaws to it, of course. However I do believe that the replacement of the statue will be the slow replacement of white heritage within the United States and the people who fought and defended and built their homeland. Robert E Lee is a great example of that. He wasnt a perfect man, but I want to honor and respect what he stood for during his time.
Photos of Cvjetanovic protesting circulated on social media, denouncing Cvjetanovic as a racist.
I did not expect the photo to be shared as much as it was. I understand the photo has a very negative connotation. But I hope that the people sharing the photo are willing to listen that Im not the angry racist they see in that photo.
Wimpy snowflake Nazis are the worst Nazis.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)nt
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)yardwork
(61,703 posts)Squinch
(51,000 posts)we see in that photo.
And he is too stupid to even understand that.
Docreed2003
(16,875 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)Kogaratsu72
(53 posts)To compare american culture with european culture...
rzemanfl
(29,567 posts)a fucking Nazi? I hope he is ostracized by the other students, the racist shit.
lostnfound
(16,189 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Which is (geographically) nowhere near University of Virginia.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)After all, the protest was at the Virginia university campus.
rzemanfl
(29,567 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)rzemanfl
(29,567 posts)Reno, four cherries in a row would probably get you in. Four bars might be good for a PhD.
freddyvh
(276 posts)you get what you deserve
Kber
(5,043 posts)mcar
(42,372 posts)Does he live under a rock? Oh, wait...
Mariana
(14,860 posts)that if they go out and do things to draw attention to themselves in public, and in front of cameras, no one important will notice and it won't cost them anything.
What's really funny is that after this statement, he won't only be ostracised by the decent people he knows at home, he'll also be shunned by his fellow racists, because he's publicly said he's not one of them.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)and a well-paying job in the Trump White House
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)Besides, if you're not "the angry racist," what kind of racist are you?
PufPuf23
(8,826 posts)"Angry racist" is incomplete.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)JPPaverage
(510 posts)I mean, aren't all of them stupid?
Salviati
(6,008 posts)You're the new face of nazis in America. Hope you're enjoying your 15 minutes of fame, because the rest of us certainly aren't
riversedge
(70,299 posts)Trump basically said the same about loving all--except for proclaiming himself a white nationalist.
.........However Cvjetanovic, a self-proclaimed white nationalist, defends his beliefs.
As a white nationalist, I care for all people. We all deserve a future for our children and for our culture. White nationalists arent all hateful; we just want to preserve what we have.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,213 posts)Meaning, we want to go back to the days when we didn't have to compete with blacks, Latinos and women for goods jobs.
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)Still in school, probably never had a job in his life but wants to "Preserve what we have", it's obvious he's so full of shit it's laughable and his statement was taken from the wrong wing media talking points.
Acts like the only reason he was there is because he took a wrong turn somewhere and got lost.
His future "Do you want fries with that ?"
TrishaJ
(798 posts)Is that Russian? Where did his family immigrate from? Perhaps he should go back.
bullimiami
(13,103 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)SunSeeker
(51,678 posts)Croatians allied with the Nazis during WWII, because they're Catholic and thought that fellow Catholic Hitler would clear out the Eastern Orthodox Serbians, Jews, Muslims and Roma gypsies. There were Croatian-run Nazi concentration camps in Yugoslavia during WWII.
DFW
(54,436 posts)Cvjetanović-"Tsvyetanovitch"
Atypical of Croatians I have met there since the 1970s, but maybe those who fled when their Ustae Nazi-collaboration movement collapsed brought their sentiments with them. Or maybe this guy is just scum who fell in with a neo-Nazi crowd and would have turned out the same if his name had been Williams. We can't know from his name alone.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Sad they don't even see the need to wear their hoods anymore.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)If the shoe fits wear it you racist pig! He's wearing his white polo shirt (and khaki pants too?) as evidence.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)When I first saw his picture yesterday that was the first thought in my mind.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)At first I wondered if it was a wig!
He's got the "uniform" on in any event.
Gawd these people suck!
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)He had the haircut like Richard Spencer as well.
obamanut2012
(26,137 posts)SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)He'll have the mustache too when he gets old enough to grow hair on his face.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Maybe when the next movie is made with Nazis in it, he can be cast as Hitler. I have a feeling that he will need the work.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Eastern European last name. I'm sure his family was at one time persona non grata in this country. Yet he turns around and wants to deny rights to others.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)His only claim to his "heritage" connection to the confederacy is he is White. His family most likely slipped in or came over in a boat in the 30's to escape Hitler.
thucythucy
(8,086 posts)via the OSS "ratline."
suffragette
(12,232 posts)csziggy
(34,137 posts)Skittles
(153,185 posts)seriously
whathehell
(29,090 posts)is that some sort of quasi-Hitler hair style?
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)There is some discussion about the hair-do.
Seems we are not the only ones that noticed the similarity!
whathehell
(29,090 posts)I thought "All he needs is the 'stache" and then someone even did a Photoshop to give him one!
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Afraid that their white women might actually prefer a pretty brown-skinned man to live with and bear children with. Afraid a pretty brown-skinned woman might steal away their precious little white boys and give them some mixed-race grandchildren. Afraid to send their kids to public school, where they might be forced to sit next to a brown-skinned kid. Afraid their kid might actually want to go to the prom with a brown-skinned date. Racism is taught at a very early age, before a kid is 6, or 7, or 8. Racists have to be carefully taught.
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)Some of them will lose their jobs. In many cases their employers will not have much of a choice but to fire them. And their kids are going to suffer too, there is little room in most people's lives for Nazism. These people will learn why the cowards in the KKK wore hoods before Trump came along.
I know if I found out someone I work with attended a Nazi rally I would ask that they be removed from my team.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)are exposed and suffer consequences, the better, as far as I am concerned.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)It means they are a dangerous agitator.
I would do the same if I found out one was on my team at work. I wouldn't stop until I got them canned.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,429 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)to show them how pure they aren't.
syringis
(5,101 posts)...they are.
Which is really not good. Purity tends to produce people disabled, having a lot of health problems, an immune system depressed...
I said it as I could in English
I can be more explicite in french
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)That's actually a problem in the Amish community here in Pennsylvania. There's a relatively rare genetic condition that occurs much more frequently in the Amish than the general population.
But, I think these folks aren't inbred and would show a variety of origins if their ancestory was DNA traced.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That is all the work that he will have. Any business that hired him will get boycotted.
procon
(15,805 posts)Failed USHistory-101, he did. He has a romanticised impression that men like Lee were fighting to preserve a heritage that was onl found in coffee table picture book and old postcards. His view of the Grand Old South is Greek revival architectural gems, Antebellum couture, steamboats and Clark Gable lookalikes mounted on fine horses in gilded Hollywood frippery.
If Lee stood for anything it was to secure his wealthy lifestyle. Cvjetanovic would rather not admit that heritage was built on the backs of people who were stolen away from their homeland to sweat and toil out their lives so the Southern aristocracy could fancy themselves entitled to live like kings.
DavidDvorkin
(19,485 posts)SweetieD
(1,660 posts)to ensure that the south could continue to enslave black Americans and deny blacks rights of citizenship.
Bladewire
(381 posts)Shaming a racist is the best way to put them back under their rocks
denbot
(9,901 posts)Um, on second thought, maybe not!
Raster
(20,998 posts)Mariana
(14,860 posts)Hate can make someone look like that all by itself.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)You are a neo nazi if you hang around with neo nazis........simple as.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)They want AA's and other minorities to "go home" .....this guy is ex yugo- croatian descended, not surprised as one of the most racist areas of the planet.
Should'nt he be deporting himself and giving the land back to the indians........
Not to mention there is scientific evidence that white people are descendents from african origin, so these guys are basically african descended.
I always freak the hell out of them when i point this out.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Some people would have a problem if we insisted that a government owned statue of a terrorist were removed to a museum (although it deserves dynamite).
Those people can fuck themselves, and so can the sympathizers of traitors.
(By the way: General Lee was opposed to statues honoring the Confederacy, the Confederates, or their cause. Taking down the statue is honoring the man's explicit wishes)
Butterflylady
(3,547 posts)What the he!! did he think was gonna happen.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Then I act surprised and offended that anybody would think I'm a racist."
Raster
(20,998 posts)bitterross
(4,066 posts)I call bullshit! Either that or he's a really, really bad student.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)syringis
(5,101 posts)European culture?
Does he think there is only culture ? For all Europeans? 27 countries. 24 languages. Various traditions, habits, way of life.
He mix that all in one? And this mythic newly invented "European white (!!) culture" has a right to be in America just like others?
What the hell is his talking about????
Of course, as every brainshit trump's support, he is very coherent :
Not racist...no. He just want to honor Lee for what he stood for...Is not that one who believed that slavery was a God Will?
He can't even understand what he is talking about, but pretends to fight for "American white heritage"?
C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)Than a whining nazi.
bullimiami
(13,103 posts)cvoogt
(949 posts)would have gotten him shot by actual Nazis in WWII.
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Brother Buzz
(36,461 posts)Croatia had its own splendid ethnic cleansing thing going on during World War II.
Nazis only tolerated allied Slavs out of pragmatism; their ideal scenario would have involved the genocide of all Slavs, including Croats. My point was just how misguided these neo-fascists are in promoting an ideology that cannot be separated from not just 'mere' genocidal policies but the actual murder of millions of people.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)rurallib
(62,448 posts)There is nothing noble in those positions.
For the life of me I can not understand why this country celebrates men like Lee and Davis et al.
Every statue of them should come down tomorrow, every school, street, building or urinal named for them should be renamed tomorrow.
152 years is way too long to let this linger.
Lithos
(26,404 posts)almost all historical figures would fail scrutiny.
brooklynite
(94,725 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)These are things that are easy to get right. That guy with the arrow pointing to him is visibly too young to be a Senator.
argyl
(3,064 posts)Looks like Heller has at least five supporters who are UNR students. Most impressive. Or maybe not.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Notice the Nazi haircut on the guy third from the left?
underpants
(182,876 posts)Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 15, 2017, 05:58 PM - Edit history (1)
So they're all the worst.
Orrex
(63,223 posts)Blah blah blah.
Go fuck yourself, little snowflake.
lark
(23,155 posts)If he wasn't that person, who is it in the picture? It's him and what he's trying to hide, pure hate and racism.
Vinca
(50,303 posts)dae
(3,396 posts)something like that.
weydowner
(100 posts)From that name, he's hardly Aryan' - that sub-section was united in its hatred of the Slavs. Or is white skin the trump-card (sorry; couldn't find a better word) in these losers?
Reminds me too much of the toxic Serbian (substitute any other 'other')a nationalism that so many Europeans had to escape poor old Europe for.
This stupid child - I hope - will have this photograph hanging (metaphorically) round his neck for the rest of his life, and a good thing too.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)haveahart
(905 posts)What is he talking about? White European culture is dominant and in control. Others are just affirming that they have a right to be here and un-oppressed.
PatSeg
(47,583 posts)not having the "right to be here just like every other culture"? I am white and I can't think of a single problem that I've had in my life that was because of my race. Sounds like he is trying to either justify his failures or his racism, probably both.
What rights has he lost because of other cultures or races?
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Ultimately, I think it can be traced to fear of becoming the minority, and the perceived associated retaliation they could face at the hands of those groups that they know have TRULY been oppressed by whites over history.
And that, to me, explains why they sound so confused and contradictory trying to explain their position. They unsuccessfully claim to 'love everyone', but all their thoughts track back to protecting their [stolen] homeland, heritage, and their racial majority.
I think fear is the main driver in this. Knowing what white people have done to minorities, they're afraid it will come back at them.
I sometimes see this attitude in some men in regard to women. They don't want to be treated the way they've treated the women in their lives. Unfortunately they don't realize that not all people are jerks like they are.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)... granting/expanding rights to others must somehow be diminishing one's own rights.
And they see it this way because they are selfish, me-first kind of people.
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PatSeg
(47,583 posts)Like there aren't enough rights to go around.
Grammy23
(5,812 posts)We have cameras, we have social media. Things can get spread around the globe in a heartbeat. So his image gets captured at this "rally" showing his snarling, hate filled mug and he is having second thoughts?? Before he jumped in his Pinto and headed cross country for Charlottesville, what did he think he was going to do when he got there? Have a picnic with sack races and swimming in the creek? Or was he already anticipating the hate filled rally? Had he already gone to Wal-Mart and found his tiki torch in the clearance aisle? Was his suitcase packed with the required uniform of the Neo Nazis?
This young man is finding out the hard way that there are consequences to our behavior. If you bed down with mangy dogs, you might pick up a few fleas and other maladies. Maybe he thought he was just going to Virginia for a lark, but he damn sure is finding out one mistake, one snap decision can have life long consequences. Let his story be a cautionary tale to others who jump on the bandwagon of a bad idea. tRump voters are you listening??
QC
(26,371 posts)that the Nazis he so admires considered the Slavs genetic inferiors who would be exterminated in due time so that their land could be given to genuine Aryans.
Some people are too dumb even to hate properly.
Nay
(12,051 posts)been exterminated by the Nazis he so adores? How is this sort of gross ignorance possible?
Oh, never mind. The human race is a giant clusterfuck.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)... is all you need to know about the Confederacy to warrant removing its icons from places of honor and relocating them to museums where they can serve as history lessons rather than as objects of public pride.
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SCantiGOP
(13,873 posts)A great phrase and a perfect name for a punk rock group.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)n/t.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)Beartracks
(12,821 posts)We'd have to support his sorry ignorant ass.
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Chemisse
(30,817 posts)Which is what he so fervently wishes for others.
Initech
(100,100 posts)underpants
(182,876 posts)Negative connotation
mshasta
(2,108 posts)Watch Mississippi Burning that movie repeats history over and over and over....Everyone can learn from it
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Perfect image.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)The kind you'd take home to momma,
maybe if momma was Ann Coulter.
syringis
(5,101 posts)...he is saying the truth...
He is not angry.
He is devastated : he just heard of Hitler's death. It's a shock to lose such great spiritual guide..
maxrandb
(15,350 posts)Maybe his employer needs to be informed that they have racist in their employ. Maybe they need to fire this guy. Maybe if they don't, "fire and fury" should rain on them.
Figuratively, of course.
catbyte
(34,444 posts)they're the biggest goddamned whiners & professional victims. I can't imagine what they would do if they were faced with actual oppression.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)Was anyone talking about grabbing his *****?
neeksgeek
(1,214 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)is the fact that your people carried out a bloody rebellion against the United States of America because the bad ole USA wanted to stop you enslaving other human beings, that "heritage" needs to be rejected, not honored.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,461 posts)I expect to see more creative photoshopping from him in the future
Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks?
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)liquid diamond
(1,917 posts)these assholes were exposed. And to think there are posters here who are opposed to these racists being doxed. smdh.
Btw he looks like a young Hitler.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)what you HAVE is called WHITE PRIVILEGE
matt819
(10,749 posts)I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
He's not an angry racist.
He's a plain old ordinary racist.
Happy now, racist?
BTW, please keep us updated on your job search.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)a turd is a turd.
Enjoy your 15 minutes, a-hole. Let's hope it's 16.
underpants
(182,876 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Sorry, kid, you hitched your wagon to this crap, and now the tab has come due. Are you crying? There's no crying in white supremacy!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)Ya Think?
PatSeg
(47,583 posts)"I just play one at Nazi rallies."
Skittles
(153,185 posts)when it is ALWAYS who they are
PatSeg
(47,583 posts)Its not like the old days when racists proudly proclaimed who and what they were. These are a bunch of sniveling little whiny assholes, who don't have the courage to admit what they really believe. If you aren't going to stand for something, just stay in your mom's basement and play video games. Actually that would be best anyway.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)if you're gonna be a racist asshole at least OWN it
PatSeg
(47,583 posts)And they didn't hesitate to wear their racism as a badge of honor. As awful as they were, at least they didn't pretend they were anything other than who they were. I'm so tired of these wishy-washy racists, "I'm not a racist, but........."
drmeow
(5,024 posts)that would be a burden on me, a gainfully employed citizen, and it would leave him with more time to be an asshole. I'd rather he got a dead end job that keeps him so busy and leaves him so exhausted that he doesn't have the time or energy to be this kind of a jerk. Since he'll be the primary breadwinner for his (undoubtedly large family) I hope it pays just enough to keep him off public assistance but not enough for any true luxuries and definitely not for cross country flights.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)You bought it, you own it.
Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)His explanation made no sense .. he's scared .. tough.
PatrickforO
(14,587 posts)And, since nazis are by definition racist, he is racist.
Since nazis are by definition genocidal, he is genocidal.
These white supremacists are nothing more than homicidal criminals. Trump is a criminal. Those in his administration who support nazis and who betrayed this nation with Russia are criminals.
JustAnotherGen
(31,874 posts)It is here.
And - it is all over Europe.
They really are sick twists. No one wants to eliminate the footprint of white people from Europe. We are just asking folks like him to sit down, shut up, and coexist. What a dumb fuck.