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highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 06:31 PM Aug 2017

Trump has to be in court Aug 14 for emoluments lawsuit. Blumenthal is the lead plaintiff

Last edited Mon Aug 7, 2017, 10:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Which may have more to do with Trump's tweetstorm today than Blumenthal's appearance on CNN this morning.

From Jeffrey Toobin's New Yorker article, June 20:

Other lawsuits against Trump, on emoluments grounds, have been filed, including one by the governments of Maryland and the District of Columbia (none have yet been decided), but Blumenthal believes that his suit will be the one that survives a challenge on standing grounds. “The clause specifically says that the President needs the consent of Congress to receive this money from foreign countries, so he’s deprived us of the chance to give our consent,” Blumenthal said. “I think that’s enough for us to get into court.” Notably, if Judge Emmet Sullivan, of the federal district court in Washington, allows the case to proceed, the plaintiffs may be allowed to obtain Trump’s elusive tax returns as part of the discovery process.



Emphasis added.


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Editing after doing more research this evening, after not being able to find out more earlier to confirm that August 14 date.

Link to the Wikipedia article on the lawsuit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blumenthal_v._Trump


According to that, there is an August 14 deadline for official action, resulting from the lawsuit being served on June 14, and the 60-day limit mentioned here:

https://www.federalrulesofcivilprocedure.org/frcp/title-iii-pleadings-and-motions/rule-12-defenses-and-objections-when-and-how-presented-motion-for-judgment-on-the-pleadings-consolidating-motions-waiving-defenses-pretrial-hearing/

But also according to the Wikipedia article, both the defendant, Trump, and the plaintiffs have requested extensions of time:

http://ia801507.us.archive.org/30/items/gov.uscourts.dcd.187220/gov.uscourts.dcd.187220.11.0.pdf

So I'm not sure what court action, if any, will result from the date mentioned for next week.

OTOH, Trump still has to be very aware of that pending lawsuit, and Blumenthal's name at the top of it.
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Trump has to be in court Aug 14 for emoluments lawsuit. Blumenthal is the lead plaintiff (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2017 OP
Ah ha! Zoonart Aug 2017 #1
Yep. My thanks to Mikey Smith, political reporter for the Mirror, for pointing this out. highplainsdem Aug 2017 #2
Interestingly NewJeffCT Aug 2017 #7
Who knew? Zoonart Aug 2017 #16
Exactly my reaction, and the video is perfect. George II Aug 2017 #3
Yes. JDC Aug 2017 #15
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2017 #4
great find NewJeffCT Aug 2017 #5
Woot!! Coventina Aug 2017 #6
Now that explains it. CanonRay Aug 2017 #8
He does not have to appear personally. Counsel can appear in civil matters. Shrike47 Aug 2017 #17
Oh ho! That explains a lot! ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #9
Better call the factory in "Gina" and order a longer tie. flibbitygiblets Aug 2017 #11
Ain't no pants size wide enough ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #13
Gina, VA? Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #22
Oh snappity-snap! Explains the rage-tweets against Blumenthal. flibbitygiblets Aug 2017 #10
Make it so! Mme. Defarge Aug 2017 #12
Oh, I hope that is something that will actually happen! Rabrrrrrr Aug 2017 #14
NOTHING will piss off Trump more than someone getting access to his tax returns. Marie Marie Aug 2017 #18
And NOTHING........ SergeStorms Aug 2017 #19
assuming the case gets to the discovery stage onenote Aug 2017 #21
Do you really think...... SergeStorms Aug 2017 #24
Yes. they're that capable. onenote Aug 2017 #25
Trump doesn't have to be anywhere on August 14. onenote Aug 2017 #20
Russian influence campaigns on Twitter - 35,000% increase in Blumenthal in 48 hours. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #23

highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
2. Yep. My thanks to Mikey Smith, political reporter for the Mirror, for pointing this out.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 07:04 PM
Aug 2017

His tweet about it was the earliest I've seen.


NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
7. Interestingly
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:20 PM
Aug 2017

Sullivan was originally appointed to the DC superior court by Ronald Reagan. Associate Judge to the Court of Appeals by George HW Bush. However, Bill Clinton appointed him to the US District Court

CanonRay

(14,119 posts)
8. Now that explains it.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:23 PM
Aug 2017

One of his minions just told him that he had to be in court in the middle of his vacation

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
9. Oh ho! That explains a lot!
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:25 PM
Aug 2017

Isn't he a stress eater? Can we expect him to come back from vacation thirty pounds and two suit sizes larger?

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
10. Oh snappity-snap! Explains the rage-tweets against Blumenthal.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:25 PM
Aug 2017

Emoluments is a big deal because it's one thing dump's base can understand: Corrupt politicians enriching themselves.

They thought for once the rich guy was going to help them, but this is going to help clear up what's really motivating their hero with the big promises.

Rabrrrrrr

(58,352 posts)
14. Oh, I hope that is something that will actually happen!
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 08:43 PM
Aug 2017

This SOB - and the entire GOP evil cabal that support this POS - need to be taken down hard, cruelly, and absolutely.

But as I've said before, taking down Trump without also taking down Pence, Ryan, and Tillerson is a waste of effort. We're actually better off with the POS we have now than allowing an actually intelligent and clever GOP-er to take his place.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
18. NOTHING will piss off Trump more than someone getting access to his tax returns.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 10:18 PM
Aug 2017

Oh please, oh please... let this happen.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
19. And NOTHING........
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 11:40 PM
Aug 2017

will piss the American people off more than getting a peek at Trump's tax returns. I think some of his cult might even find it offensive. Now wouldn't that be sweet?

onenote

(42,769 posts)
21. assuming the case gets to the discovery stage
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 11:54 PM
Aug 2017

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which wouldn't happen until some time next year, it is far from clear that the court will require Trump to give the plaintiffs his tax returns and if the court does, the public is not
going to see them because they will be covered by a protective order.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
24. Do you really think......
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 04:43 AM
Aug 2017

Trump's lawyers are that capable? From what I've seen of them so far, they don't look like the sharpest tools in the shed. They may surprise me though, and a lot of other people as well. Hopefully the State law suits will bear fruit long before Mueller's team strikes at Trump. I'd love to see him found guilty in two States, AND in Federal Court. Then we'll see if Donnie Darko can pardon himself, like he thinks he can.

onenote

(42,769 posts)
25. Yes. they're that capable.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 09:57 AM
Aug 2017

Even an average litigator knows to seek a protective order to prevent sensitive documents from becoming public.
Ty Cobb is a superb lawyer.

onenote

(42,769 posts)
20. Trump doesn't have to be anywhere on August 14.
Mon Aug 7, 2017, 11:52 PM
Aug 2017

First, the complaint was filed on June 14 but wasn't served until June 19. The 60 day period for filing an answer or other response (such as a motion to dismiss) is August 18.

Second, the deadline is for the filing of a written answer or motion to dismiss -- no one will be appearing in court in person.

Third, as the OP indicates, the plaintiffs and the defendants have filed a joint request for a new schedule that begins with the filing of a new, amended complaint by the plaintiffs on August 15 and goes on from there, with the last written pleading due in mid-November. No decision is going to come until some time after that.

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