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kentuck

(111,101 posts)
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 06:30 PM Aug 2017

Everybody says it is "early in the process" ...

...of the Trump Russia investigation.

It seems to me that it is very late in the process.

Every day that passes by without any resolution seems like a hole that gets exponentially deeper, in my opinion.

I feel threatened by these characters in charge and I definitely feel our country is under threat.

It may be "early in the process" but it feels like we are not taking the threat seriously enough, in my way of thinking.

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Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
1. It is not early
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 06:32 PM
Aug 2017

The grand juries are looking at the evidence, the process is nearly complete.

A grand jury is like trial jury, but there is only the prosecution. Which is a little one sided, but which is also why the prosecution almost always wins. Quickly.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
2. I think it is just so complicated that it will take awhile.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 06:34 PM
Aug 2017

But-- I read somewhere that it's a good sign that there are grand juries already. That means that they aren't spending endless months on the investigation.

There are so many different tentacles to the corruption... the two empaneled grand juries could be focusing on one small part of it.

tableturner

(1,683 posts)
4. Everybody has to understand that the probe had made good progress before Mueller came on board.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 07:06 PM
Aug 2017

This had gone on for months, and even during the little time between Comey and Mueller, a large group of FBI agents never stopped the investigation. Mueller likely came into a situation that was a bit more advanced than some think. I believe that he has plenty of indictable offenses in his back pocket already, but of course, as the investigators make efforts in certain areas, new avenues pop up and must be investigated.

Then comes the question of timing, and if everything must be settled before anything is made public. I think for the most part, yes, almost everything will probably be settled before indictments. However, there could be a tributary or two discovered late that are relatively unrelated to the other possible crimes, and I could see possible indictments in those types of cases coming later.

Stuart G

(38,429 posts)
6. I believe deeply, Mueller must, yes must hit paydirt, proof beyond any question that
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 07:25 PM
Aug 2017

this group, Trump the leader, broke the law. No question ever for 90 percent of us.

When Nixon resigned, there was no question that he broke the law. And that his group broke the law too.
And they went to jail..

That is where I want this to end, he resigns because he has to resign..clear to all. Investigation must be iron tight. Proof must be easy to understand and known. No question that impeachment would be successful or close to it.

Yes the Pukes hold control of both Houses of Congress. but if the proof is so clear and precise and beyond doubt, it won't matter. If the whole crowd but Trump is indicted, then it will cause Trump to resign too. If,...that takes time..then it takes some more time....Mueller knows we are impatient, but he has got to get him, and get him so good ,that he goes....and We all know that..................

Oh and I just found this thread by ...........applegrove:
Rosenstein: Special counsel Mueller can investigate any crimes he uncovers in Russia probe


https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029424432

Therefore, if in the process of investigation, Mueller finds something else, and those law braking events, are more tight and easier to prosecute than others...Mueller must go after those events too..why? He must get him and bring him down..so clearly that there is no question of his quilt..just like Nixon,,and that may take time..unfortunately ..Maybe, just maybe, there will be enough proof, by September,,,we hope, but if he gets him in October or November..that will work for me...

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
7. He would not have convened two grand juries
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 07:57 PM
Aug 2017

unless he had rock-solid proof. This is happening very quickly IMHO

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