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kentuck

(111,103 posts)
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 04:32 PM Aug 2017

Are Democrats talking too much about Trump and Russia and not enough about other issues?

I saw this discussion on TV early this morning. Krystal Ball (ex-MSNBCer) was on one of the panels and she thought Democrats needed to talk about jobs and better wages, etc.

It's very difficult to ignore the elephant in the room. It's knocking stuff over and crapping in the floor every day, all day long, it seems? It's a threat to destroy our entire home. But, we need to talk about something else if we want to win the next election?

What say ye?

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Are Democrats talking too much about Trump and Russia and not enough about other issues? (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2017 OP
Yes Ms. Ball complains a lot Cary Aug 2017 #1
They're not talking about Russia enough! Chasstev365 Aug 2017 #2
Yes. GreenEyedLefty Aug 2017 #3
Move on and let Mueller drop announcements when necessary leftstreet Aug 2017 #4
Ms Ball wants to purge Dem liberals and is a bullshit artist. Dems are talking health care and jobs emulatorloo Aug 2017 #5
But the 'better deal' thing is weak, lame and suckz! leftstreet Aug 2017 #7
Excellent adjectives to describe Ms. Ball's lies about Democrats emulatorloo Aug 2017 #9
It's not a 'lie' the Democrats have come up with a shit slogan leftstreet Aug 2017 #10
It is a lie to insinuate Dems aren't talking about issues. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #12
I thought the OP was, is there too much talk about Russia? leftstreet Aug 2017 #15
And my answer is Dems are talking about a lot of things, not just Russia. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #16
Okay, fair enough n/t leftstreet Aug 2017 #17
Absolutely Right Me. Aug 2017 #8
Saw Her Me. Aug 2017 #6
Are voters who can never be satisfied constantly moving the goal post? Democrats onecaliberal Aug 2017 #11
Democrats should talk policy marylandblue Aug 2017 #13
If we do not have free elections,Democrats cannot win. delisen Aug 2017 #14
It sometimes seems that the news cycle is overwhelmed by Trump's antics to the point that other issu Arkansas Granny Aug 2017 #18
The American Democratic system is in jeopardy. It would be impossible for us to Squinch Aug 2017 #19
What issues are you talking about? Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #20
Yes. He distracts and distracts and we sink into the woodwork. nt LAS14 Aug 2017 #21
We are not talking enough about the systematic evisceration of the enough Aug 2017 #22
The Root Cause Of All Our Problems Are The Repugs.... global1 Aug 2017 #23

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
2. They're not talking about Russia enough!
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 04:35 PM
Aug 2017

It's treason and that's all you would hear if the shoe was on the other foot.

Democrats are too polite about what Trump did!

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
3. Yes.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 04:37 PM
Aug 2017

But - when we aren't subsumed by Trump/Russia, it's health care. Now it's saber rattling with North Korea.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
4. Move on and let Mueller drop announcements when necessary
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 04:38 PM
Aug 2017

The Trump admin is already using the quiet window against the Democrats "witch hunt!" "sore losers!"

The propaganda will start sticking without some indictments, etc

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
5. Ms Ball wants to purge Dem liberals and is a bullshit artist. Dems are talking health care and jobs
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 04:42 PM
Aug 2017

See Schumer's better deal rollout.

Chuck Schumer: A Better Deal for American Workers
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/24/opinion/chuck-schumer-employment-democrats.html

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
7. But the 'better deal' thing is weak, lame and suckz!
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 04:46 PM
Aug 2017

I'm GLAD it's not getting attention

Democratic leaders retreated from Washington for the afternoon to Berryville, Virginia, a bucolic town in the Shenandoah Valley 70 miles west of the Capitol Hill, where they unveiled their populist platform, packaged under the slogan: “A Better Deal: Better Jobs, Better Wages, Better Future”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/24/democrats-better-deal-virginia-rally-economy


O.M.G. No, just no


leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
10. It's not a 'lie' the Democrats have come up with a shit slogan
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 04:49 PM
Aug 2017

I don't watch tv and I don't even know who the commentator is

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
12. It is a lie to insinuate Dems aren't talking about issues.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 04:54 PM
Aug 2017

Ball wants to purge Pelosi and replace her with an underqualied centrist, cuz Republicans don't like Pelosi and lie about her.. So now you know.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
15. I thought the OP was, is there too much talk about Russia?
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 04:56 PM
Aug 2017

Like I said, I didn't watch it so I don't know

I thought the issue was 'should the Democrats stop talking so much about Russia?'

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)
11. Are voters who can never be satisfied constantly moving the goal post? Democrats
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 04:52 PM
Aug 2017

Are out of power. The cons hold every branch of government, the question is what have they done?

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
13. Democrats should talk policy
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 04:54 PM
Aug 2017

The investigation will tale care of itself and there is no way to know how it will turn out.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
14. If we do not have free elections,Democrats cannot win.
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 04:56 PM
Aug 2017

Russian interference is not over. It needs to be addressed or we will again be unprepared.

Aside from Russia, we are losing votes to a coordinated campaign of voter suppression. If we don't address it we will lose.

As far as jobs and wages go, the main issue is automation. If Democrats do not talk about automation, they will lose. Krystal Ball does talk about automation.

Ball should address and stop worrying about other people addressing other vital issues.


Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
18. It sometimes seems that the news cycle is overwhelmed by Trump's antics to the point that other issu
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 05:00 PM
Aug 2017

don't get the coverage they deserve. Nearly every day brings another outrageous tweet or chaos within the White House that dominates the coverage that day. It's hard to get your message across when everyone is concentrated on the disaster that is Trump.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
19. The American Democratic system is in jeopardy. It would be impossible for us to
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 05:02 PM
Aug 2017

talk too much about Trump and Russia.

Jesus. I can't even believe how lightly people are taking the greatest threat to our country since it's inception.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
20. What issues are you talking about?
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 05:02 PM
Aug 2017

I'm seeing Democrats of all stripes speaking on a variety of issues.

enough

(13,259 posts)
22. We are not talking enough about the systematic evisceration of the
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 05:16 PM
Aug 2017

State Department, EPA, DOE, Interior, USDA, etc. Whatever happens to Trump and Co, this destruction is already happening. And the path to reconstruction after they're gone will not be clear.

global1

(25,253 posts)
23. The Root Cause Of All Our Problems Are The Repugs....
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 05:16 PM
Aug 2017

they need to be held responsible. We'll be running against the Repugs in 2018 & most probably in 2020. We need to turn our attention to them as we'll not be running against Trump. Trump will implode on his own and Mueller will do him in. What scares me now as we are getting close to 2018 - the Repugs are talking bipartisanship - at least on healthcare. Don't trust them it's a trap. So the Dems can't badmouth them.

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