The global crackdown on parents who refuse vaccines for their kids has begun

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Countries like Italy and Australia are tired of measles outbreaks — so they're moving to fine anti-vaccine parents.

There’s a school of thought that refusing vaccines on behalf of your children amounts to child abuse, and that parents should be punished for their decision. We know vaccines are overwhelmingly safe and effective at preventing the spread of disease. And yet failing to immunize children can put them (and vulnerable people around them) at tremendous risk of illness or even death when outbreaks get rolling.

Now it seems Australia and a number of countries in Europe are fed up enough with vaccine-refusing parents that they’re experimenting with punitive measures. We haven’t quite reached the level of child abuse charges, but moms and dads in these countries may face fines if they fail to give their kids the recommended shots. In Australia, schools that let the unvaccinated kids in would be fined too. This marks a pretty aggressive shift in how we manage vaccine refusers and the costly, deadly outbreaks of diseases like measles and whooping cough they help spark.

Here’s a quick roundup of the global crackdown on vaccine-refusing parents:

Italy’s parliament recently passed a law that makes 10 childhood vaccinations mandatory for kids up to age 16, and requires parents to prove their children are immunized before entering school or else face a €500 (about $600 USD) noncompliance fine.

Germany is also cracking down on vaccine-refusing parents, considering fines of up to €2,500 (about $3,000 USD) for parents who refuse counseling from their doctors about vaccines.

In France, the health ministry is making 11 vaccines — up from the current three (diphtheria, tetanus, and polio) — mandatory for children by 2018, though there’s no talk of a fine there yet.

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[katmondoo]

1. They should also refuse children entry into their country without proof of updated vaccinations

[perdita9]

16. I agree

All our recent measles outbreaks in the U.S. have been caused by someone flying in from overseas.

[ismnotwasm]

2. Good. Sick of these anti-vaxxers and their child murder

[Mariana]

3. They don't just endanger their own children.

This should never be forgotten when dealing with this issue. They endanger everyone who can't take the vaccines for valid medical reasons. They endanger children who are too young for certain vaccines. They endanger those whose vaccinations didn't "take" for whatever reason - no vaccine works 100% of the time. They're a menace.

[AgadorSparticus]

4. CA passed a law as well. The rest of the country needs to get with it.

[CousinIT]

6. Agree. Should be Fed law but our gov't is run by radical right morons. n/t

[Sgent]

17. Of all states

MS and WV have had that law for 20+ years (MS I know since the 60's). For years MS was #1 on vaccinations, WV was #2. MS's law requires vaccination for daycare as well as school -- both public and private.

[AgadorSparticus]

20. Yea. I never would have thought those 2 states would be leading the way on this

[KitSileya]

5. This is good. Norway issued travel warnings for Italy and some other countries this summer

Because of the childhood disease epidemics now flourishing there due to idiotic and endangering parents. Simply put, they discouraged anyone with kids from traveling to these countries.

I feel very strongly about vaccines, as my brother was unable to get most of them because he had an allergic reaction to his first. This means that he is dependent on others vaccinating to prevent getting the diseases himself - mumps may make him sterile, for example.

[syringis]

7. It has to happen

Anti-vaccine are dangerous delusional ignorants.

They will focuse on a single case to justify the pretended danger of the vaccination.

And no matter for those extremists, that their stubbornness kills much more than will do a vaccin.

Here in Belgium polio is a vaccine mandatory since 1967. It is the only one but other chilhood vaccinations are strongly recommended.

For now, it seems not necessary to go further, since resistance is too strong but things might change.

We have a recrudescence of measles since last year.

[ucrdem]

8. As of April 1, 2017, the US National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program

had paid out $3,379,013,325.79 in vaccine injury awards in 5,338 compensated cases, bringing the total outlay with attorney's fees to $3,637,874,340.58 thus far:

https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/data/monthlywebsitestats04_01_17.pdf

So it's not so simple.

[paleotn]

9. Tiny, nearly invisible potatos....

compared to the annual, pre-vaccine death toll. I have parents who lived during those days. Children died regularly of diseases we barely give much thought today....because of vaccines. Add to that, antis ARE directly responsible for the deaths of children who cannot be vaccinated, due to preventable outbreaks.

Care to try again?

[womanofthehills]

11. It isn't simple - I agree

Childhood vaccines are safer than ever, but the majority of the compensations were for people getting guillain barre from the flu shot.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. No treatment, prophylactic or other, is perfect or perfectly administered.

Sometimes nurses and other health professionals administer the wrong vaccine or the wrong dose or at the wrong time or out of date vaccines, etc. Further, there are some adverse reactions simply because not every person is identical to every other person.

Mistakes happen. That does NOT invalidate the tremendous benefit of vaccinations.

[womanofthehills]

14. And Trump wants to get his greedy little hands on the vaccine injury compensation money too

to give the rich tax breaks.

[paleotn]

10. It's about damn time....

These are the same people who figure Typhoid Mary Mallon should have in no way been banned from the food industry. That would be restricting her freedom to make her own decisions, don't ya know.

[Spider Jerusalem]

13. Good.

If you disagree that it's a good thing, then I sincerely hope your kids don't die of a vaccine-preventable illness.

[Leith]

15. I Used to Work with a Woman Who Had Had Polio as a Child

She could not stand up without leg braces. One of her earliest memories was being in the hospital being treated for the disease when the news broke that there was a vaccine. It was too late for her, but not for millions of others. Nobody dared tell her that they weren't 100% pro-vaccine.

When I was a kid, everyone went through mumps, measles, and chicken pox. They were not fun. I remember the fever and feeling awful. People told me not to scratch the pox because I would be permanently scarred. I won't wish those memories on anyone, especially those with health issues who can't be vaccinated and rely on everyone else's good health.

Good for every country that demands this.

[Sgent]

18. I had a bad case of chicken pox

and it sucked -- big time.

It also means your at risk for shingles later in life.

[Leith]

19. My Husband Has Had Shingles Twice

He's 50.

[herding cats]

23. There's a vaccine for shingles.

I think it's for 50 year olds and above. I too had a horrific case of chickenpox (as an adult) and I plan on getting the shingles vaccine as soon as I'm old enough.

[moonscape]

25. Yes, while it doesn't vaccinate against it completely, it reduces the

odds of getting it and makes the case milder than otherwise.

Since it's a live vaccine and I can't get those, I am on an antiviral for life to guard against.

Shingles is some nasty stuff, nastier than I knew. A friend got it in her ear and went blind, also lost hearing in one year. Suddenly. She had gone to the ER, they said it was nothing that it would go away, and had they ID'ed it and given her acyclovir she would not have lost her sight.

Smart not to mess around with shingles!

[herding cats]

27. Shingles are nothing to mess around with.

My grandmother by marriage has been in the hospital twice in the past 3 years due to shingles. The last time there was a chance of her losing her sight like your friend, and she'd been under a doctors care for it the entire time. She'd recently sold her home and moved and the stress made the case much worse.

I'm sorry you can't get the vaccine. A reduced chance, or a chance of a lesser case is worth the poke in the arm if one is able to have the vaccine.

[Ilsa]

32. Yeah, I know someone who had a bad case of shingles

Several years after getting zostervax or whatever the shingles vaccine is called. She was put into treatment immediately, but it was still very painful. No one has any idea if the vaccine kept it from being worse or if it simply wasn't effective.

Every child be vaccinated unless they have known allergies to eggs or a close family member has been made extremely ill from a vaccine.

[Warren DeMontague]

22. I have an aunt with post-polio

and I have a small round crater on my head; fortunately it's up under my hairline, because I'm so vain, lol-- from where I didn't listen to that shit about don't scratch the chicken pox.

[Warren DeMontague]

21. Vaccinate your kids. Period.

The anti-vaxxers have the deaths of infants during totally unnecessary pertussis outbreaks, on their hands.

And for what- to promote some unscientific woo-woo and sell books.

[herding cats]

24. Good! Vaccinate your children or live in a cave as hermit.

Just keep your unvaccinated children the hell away from the too young to be vaccinated, and everyone else for that matter. Anti vaccination people have zero right to kill other innocents due to their woo woo BS. They scare the hell out of me every time I look at an infant in my family.

[RKP5637]

26. Excellent!!! n/t

[VMA131Marine]

28. I had chicken pox in 1976 or 77 when I was 12.

I wish there had been a vaccine available. I will be sure to get the Shingles vaccine when my doctor recommends it.

Whooping cough (pertussis) is also making a comeback; I was vaccinated against it at my physical a couple of weeks ago.

[EllieBC]

29. Don't let them enroll their unvaccinated kids in public school,

One would think out here on the west coast of. Canada people would not be anti-science and would vaccinate. Nope. There were outbreaks of measles, mumps, and whooping cough here this winter. And I had a newborn to worry about.

Unless your child is immuno-compromised, you should not be allowed to send them to public schools without being vaccinated.

[Phoenix61]

30. Hallelujah!

Based on the idea that we should ban things that are dangerous to some, peanut butter would be banned.

[EllieBC]

31. There's actually a therapy for that.

Somehow they desensitize the kids but it's a lifelong thing. Meaning the child will have to eat X amount of peanuts EVERY DAY the rest of their lives to maintain the desensitization.