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struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:12 PM Aug 2017

Favourite lie actually quite baffling

AUGUST 6, 2017
10:52AM

... “I got a call from the head of the Boy Scouts saying it was the greatest speech that was ever made to them,” Mr Trump told the Wall Street Journal, referring to his speech at the Boy Scout Jamboree last month.

The only problem? That call never happened. Mr Trump made it up ...



http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/donald-trumps-favourite-lie-is-actually-quite-baffling/news-story/e15cf203e0d7bdff555a874eadd3d8d4

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Favourite lie actually quite baffling (Original Post) struggle4progress Aug 2017 OP
I dont see it as baffling... A-Schwarzenegger Aug 2017 #1
Here's some advice from an old teacher: struggle4progress Aug 2017 #2
ha, whatever, Socrates A-Schwarzenegger Aug 2017 #3
he's pathological RussBLib Aug 2017 #4
Trump's full of shit. Who knew? oasis Aug 2017 #5
Yeah it's just... A-Schwarzenegger Aug 2017 #6
actually there was an article in the KC Star hfojvt Aug 2017 #7

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
1. I dont see it as baffling...
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:32 PM
Aug 2017

1. he has no concern for the truth
2. he has total concern for others' admiration
3. He has a cosmic ego
4. he has zero self-esteem
5. he fears he is stupid
6. he knows he is uneducated
7. a person who gives the greatest speeches is admired by all, has immense self-esteem, cannot be stupid, and cannot be uneducated
8. therefore... "everybody says I give the greatest speeches"

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
2. Here's some advice from an old teacher:
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:46 PM
Aug 2017

People always believe what they figure out for themselves -- but much less frequently believe the interpretations other people provide for them

I think everything you say here is true. But it is sometimes worthwhile to study how to convey facts in a way that enable the audience to reach the conclusion, rather than providing the conclusion directly

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
3. ha, whatever, Socrates
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:48 PM
Aug 2017

The author of the article inadequately answered her own inquiry.
Sometimes the teacher needs a little nudge toward the light

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
7. actually there was an article in the KC Star
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 12:09 AM
Aug 2017

that was gushing over his speech in Poland.

Seems to me that kind of a lie is kinda hard to refudiate. It's not really a lie where you can check the actual numbers or something.

To me Bush's lies were more brazen. He would basically lie about math, try and tell you that 6 is less than the square root of 27 and count on people to be unable to do the math.

I guess it worked, but to a math geek like me it was like he was straight up saying "I am full of excrement".

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