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Eugene

(61,919 posts)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:39 PM Aug 2017

This Trump real estate deal looks awfully like criminal tax fraud

Source: Washington Post

This Trump real estate deal looks awfully like criminal tax fraud

Two tax lawyers break down the president’s sale of two condos to his son.

By David Herzig and Bridget Crawford August 4 at 6:00 AM

President Trump clearly doesn’t want to release his income tax returns to the public. Members of the public and commentators have progressed through stages of outrage, speculation and acceptance that they’ll never see the goods, while others have made attempts to pry the documents free (such as proposed legislation in New York and other states that would require presidential candidates to release their returns). But Trump’s most pressing tax problem may come from somewhere else entirely: a pre-election transfer of property to a company controlled by his son that could run afoul of the IRS.

According to a recent story by ProPublica and the Real Deal, in April 2016, a limited liability company managed by Trump sold two condominium apartments to a limited liability company managed by Eric Trump. They were on the 13th and 14th floors of a 14-story, full-service, doorman building at 100 Central Park South in Manhattan. This is a prime Midtown neighborhood, yet the sale price for each condo was just $350,000. Although the condition and square footage of apartments 13G and 14G are not readily known, a popular real estate website shows that G-line apartments on both the fifth and eighth floors are one-bedroom, one-bath units of just over 500 square feet. Two years before the Trump transaction, apartment 5G sold for $690,000. Maybe the two units in question were in terrible shape, but two months before the sale to Eric Trump’s LLC, they were advertised for $790,000 (on the 13th floor) and $800,000 (on the 14th floor), according to ProPublica.

If a sale between a parent and child is for fair market value, it does not trigger a gift tax. But if a parent sells two expensive condominiums to his son at a highly discounted price, for example, then the parent makes a taxable gift in part. In that case, the seller must pay a gift tax of up to 40 percent. (In this case, that might have run the president somewhere in the neighborhood of $350,000.)

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This Trump real estate deal looks awfully like criminal tax fraud (Original Post) Eugene Aug 2017 OP
I thought the same thing, and I'm sure not a lawyer. tonyt53 Aug 2017 #1
This is the result when we gut the IRS sharedvalues Aug 2017 #2
From your head I thought you were referring to the deal where trump sold a house... brush Aug 2017 #3
And the Russian tore down the enormous house and other buildings, dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #9
His brand is cratering because of his debacle of an administration. His name is being yanked... brush Aug 2017 #11
I am going to read your comment again dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #12
Don the Con strikes again Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #4
Real Estate Rentals and Wellstone ruled Aug 2017 #5
Perhaps a pre-estate tax gift bucolic_frolic Aug 2017 #6
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2017 #7
sounds fishy to me. he wants his money. top dollar. pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #8
This is why tRump wants to draw the line so his finances are outside of Mueller's purview. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #10
 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
1. I thought the same thing, and I'm sure not a lawyer.
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:54 PM
Aug 2017

Lots of high profile people have been taken down over tax fraud. As one worthless bitch said "only little people pay taxes".

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
2. This is the result when we gut the IRS
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:02 PM
Aug 2017

When the IRS is starved of resources, rich people's fraud goes uninvestigated, while middle class people still pay en masse on their 1040EZs.

brush

(53,801 posts)
3. From your head I thought you were referring to the deal where trump sold a house...
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:08 PM
Aug 2017

to a Russian oligarch for way more than it was worth. He netted a 50m profit.

That's got to be tax fraud somehow, as well as the obvious money laundering aspect of it.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
9. And the Russian tore down the enormous house and other buildings,
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 03:44 PM
Aug 2017

divided the lots, sold at least one for a LOT of money.

Interestingly, Trump now is putting one of his is island houses up for a way below market sale price.
Forget which Island chain that is, not Hawaii tho.

brush

(53,801 posts)
11. His brand is cratering because of his debacle of an administration. His name is being yanked...
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 09:24 PM
Aug 2017

off of some of the hotels that license it even.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Real Estate Rentals and
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:42 PM
Aug 2017

Sales offer the opportunity for abuse or down right breaking of Tax Laws. Appreciation and Depreciation rules are open to what ever interpretation. As our Accountant used to say,there are guide lines but the chances of being challenged is only when you do something that jumps off the page.

With the GOP defunding the IRS,your chances of a Audit has diminished significantly . Again,claim something stupid and your will get your letter in the mail.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,020 posts)
10. This is why tRump wants to draw the line so his finances are outside of Mueller's purview.
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 07:33 PM
Aug 2017

This particular deal probably has no collusion aspect, but if it triggers the spidey-senses of Mueller' bloodhounds, then it could be another problem for tRump.

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