Trumps Trans Military Ban Now Policy

[CurtEastPoint]

Source: LA Blade. http://www.losangelesblade.com/2017/08/04/trumps-trans-military-ban-now-policy/

President Donald Trump may be on a 17- day vacation but his White House has been scrambling to hand him a “win” by the time he returns. Trump’s tweets last week announcing a ban on transgender individuals serving openly in the U.S. military was turned into a “guidance” policy for implementation that passed muster with the White House Counsel’s office Friday night. Approved by Trump, the new policy is expected to be now delivered into the hands of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, who has been quiet on the issue with approximately 15,000 trans servicemembers under his command.
After his review, Mattis is expected to order a deliberate implementation by the Pentagon, which could take a period of time.
Though the policy—called “A Guidance Policy for Open Transgender Service Phase Out”—has not yet been made public, sources familiar with the planning said it would encourage early retirement, usher out any enlisted personnel after their contract is up, and would fire trans officers up for promotion. Basically, said a source, “the administration want to get rid of transgender servicemembers as fast as they can.”

[COLGATE4]

1. Well, now he's got his big fucking win.

Maybe he can just continue on the golf course until 2020 and leave the rest of us alone.

[RKP5637]

2. More people flushed down the drain as impure and not fitting the alt right fascist image!

Who is next? What race, what people, what group! This person trump is dangerous as hell to millions and millions of people.

[Tanuki]

3. How horrible especially for those dedicated patriots directly affected

but also for all Americans and individuals around the world who value freedom. Meanwhile, Caitlyn Jenner was still sporting her MAGA hat as she drove around Malibu in her convertible sports car yesterday:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.teenvogue.com/story/caitlyn-jenner-maga-hat-donald-trump-transgender-military-ban/amp

[narnian60]

23. Geez.

Disgusting.

[sarge43]

4. "....would fire trans officers up for promotion."

That's sucking around for one hellva court case.

[Ilsa]

12. "Yeah, you got highest marks on your last fit-rep,

and we desperately need specialists like you, but we're going to fire you anyway because you take hormone medication."

[sarge43]

17. Maybe things have changed since I was manning the paper pumb,

but back when Regular officers (usually academy grads) were sacred cows. They couldn't be shifted out except for cause, either UCMJ violation or breathtaking incompetence. Even then, the paperwork had to fill up a C-5 to get it done. If any of those trans officers hold a regular commission, it's time to make the popcorn and pull up a seat.

[Ilsa]

26. This story will be an interesting one to watch.

I believe it is institutions like the military and public education, public hospitals, etc, that effect change in a culture's bigotry and dogma. I hope the military will lead the way for the current adult generation. I think the generations following us have mostly discarded this kind of hatred. Let us hope the bulk of them have been taught well.

[Fatemah2774]

35. Not sure either but...

As a transgender person who was in the military and expressed interest in returning I am certain that two graduates, one at West Point and the other at Colorado Springs who did transition will not be allowed to be part of the active duty personnel. This was before the tweet, so maybe a good lawsuit will make these transphobic nitwits come to their senses like the Muslim ban.

And then again, maybe not.

[sarge43]

36. They harp about the cost

How much was spent training those two individuals? What's the all up cost of a bach degree from a top of the line university now-a-days? Then, all the other transgender personnel. We're starting to talk real money here. Those nitwits give me the screaming pip.

Well, hand salute to them and I hope they can ride out this shit storm.

[ck4829]

5. Support Counter-Recruitment today.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

6. How exactly is this a "win"?

Kicking 15,000 trained and qualified individuals from the military just to please your homophobic base is a win? Are we going to forbid women pilots, too? How about segregating the services? How much "winning" are we supposed to get tired of?

Maybe a golf cart will run over him on the 18th green of his self-named country club and break his fingers so he couldn't tweet for a long time.

[secondwind]

10. Maybe Barron will declare himself transgender or gender queer...

[Ilsa]

13. He would be treated like Shireen Baratheon in Game of Thrones

if the Leviticus followers convinced donald that he is "inferior" or "cursed". I know melania would probably take him to europe, though to keep their nasty comments from him.

Shireen: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Shireen_Baratheon

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

11. Is it worse than the image of a sergeant, one enlistment away from retirement, ...

... being sacked? Losing the retirement pay, commissary and PX privileges, health insurance, all the benefits of being a retired military person?

Both are cruel.

[sarge43]

20. Yup. Minimum Bronze Star with V, Purple Heart, back to back deployments.

But Trump who has never risk anything for this country, costs us millions scuttling back and forth to play golf. Vicious fucker.

[LostOne4Ever]

9. Trump can go fuck himself sideway with a barbwire bat!!! Nt

[AllaN01Bear]

14. this country wil never live up to its creeds and pledges ,

free country, yea fucking right. liberty and justice for all, i dont think so. not. only for the privleged , and the cops , o the cops are only there to protect the rich and their butt buddies .would love someone to challenge this in court. so. who are u going to "test" for trans or is your "gaydar" going off and whomever put a spell checker in firefox in a text box that dosent work should be tickled with a giant pink tickle feather . welcome to the meanest place on earth.

[Ligyron]

15. 15,000 trans servicemembers!

I would have never guessed there are that many.

[onlyadream]

16. If it's all about the insurance coverage

Then start by not covering the hormones. Not that this is right get in any way, but at least it won't derail thousands of careers.
But, sadly, we all know that the cost is only an excuse to serve his self righteous base.

[sarge43]

18. It's already been pointed out that the gov't

spends five times as much on boner pills than it does on trans treatments. That 'excuse' has four wheels and wings, not air worthy.

[Butterflylady]

19. All I can say

is karma is a bitch and he will deserve everything he gets.

[leftinalabama]

21. At first they came for the Jews

And nobody stood up for the Jews.....
And then they came for me......

[90-percent]

33. first they came for the mexicans,

but i was not mexican, then they came for unregistered voters, and i was registered, then they came for hillary voters, and i voted for bernie, then they came for transgenders, and i'm still the same sex as birth....


wash rinse repeat.


and i probably left out a lot of other groups - journalists, scientists, non-evangelicals, minorities immigrants, pro choice, legal weed, etc.


-90% jimmy

[SHRED]

22. There will be lawsuits I imagine

People's careers are going to be destroyed.

[DLevine]

24. Trump is a coward and a disgrace to this country. nt

[CanonRay]

25. Some win.

[Takket]

27. Why does 45 hate the military and troops?

That's the question democrats should be asking. Plant that earworm everywhere

[sarge43]

28. Because they prove every hour of every day they are better than he can ever be.

Democrats shouldn't be asking that; they should shout it from the roof tops.

[Pantagruel]

29. Cost of retraining replacements

for excluded transgender soldiers will DWARF cost of conversion therapy. Someone needs to publish the math surrounding this ignorant, incomprehensible and blatant discrimination.

[asiliveandbreathe]

30. Nope - ain't buyin' it...people..STOP! eom

[barbtries]

31. fucking bastards.

fucking bastards.

[vkkv]

32. That's a "win" ?

[smirkymonkey]

34. Fuck that.

This is not a win. It is just a stupid, hateful, bigoted act by a desperate, weak man who is pandering to his base. Hardly winning.

[rock]

37. What a loser!

Tease a loser (T's a loser)!

[raven mad]

38. Anyone LGBT, run and hide. Oh, also, if you're Hispanic, Black, Muslim...........

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