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womanofthehills

(8,724 posts)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 02:32 AM Aug 2017

A Chilling Theory on Trumps Nonstop Lies - Mother Jones

“26 hours, 29 Trumpian False or Misleading Claims.”


That was the headline on a piece last week from the Washington Post, whose reporters continued the herculean task of debunking wave after wave of President Donald Trump’s lies. (It turned out there was a 30th Trump falsehood in that time frame, regarding the head of the Boy Scouts.) The New York Times keeps a running tally of the president’s lies since Inauguration Day, and PolitiFact has scrutinized and rated 69 percent of Trump’s statements as mostly false, false, or “pants on fire.”

Trump’s chronic duplicity may be pathological, as some experts have suggested. But what else might be going on here? In fact, the 45th president’s stream of lies echoes a contemporary form of Russian propaganda known as the “Firehose of Falsehood.”

In 2016, the nonpartisan research organization RAND released a study of messaging techniques seen in Kremlin-controlled media. The researchers described two key features: “high numbers of channels and messages” and “a shameless willingness to disseminate partial truths or outright fictions.”

The result of those tactics? “New Russian propaganda entertains, confuses and overwhelms the audience.”


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/trump-nonstop-lies/
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A Chilling Theory on Trumps Nonstop Lies - Mother Jones (Original Post) womanofthehills Aug 2017 OP
Real life is becoming reality TV. dchill Aug 2017 #1
Very interesting bdjhawk Aug 2017 #2
The Kremlin canetoad Aug 2017 #3
Does seem tailor made for his personality, doesn't it? Pacifist Patriot Aug 2017 #9
it worked for fux gnewz. pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #4
Sociopaths lie with ease and.... steve2470 Aug 2017 #5
Taking the "Big Lie" technique to its extreme. Fozzledick Aug 2017 #11
Huxwellian, being overly entertained with lies, ... NeoGreen Aug 2017 #6
OMG. The "Firehose of Falsehood" Achilleaze Aug 2017 #7
"Lacks commitment to objective reality" TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #13
This is an especially important article everyone should stop to read! Pacifist Patriot Aug 2017 #8
+ 1 Achilleaze Aug 2017 #15
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2017 #10
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2017 #12
Newt Gingrich is also a skilled propagandist. kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #14
1984 progressoid Aug 2017 #16
Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2017 #17
The Gish Gallop DBoon Aug 2017 #18

canetoad

(17,171 posts)
3. The Kremlin
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 03:34 AM
Aug 2017

Just happened upon the biggest gift in the world; an aspiring politician who was an elemental “Firehose of Falsehood”.

I doubt whether any person or organisation in the world can impart enough discipline into 45 to get him to adhere to a plan or philosophy.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
5. Sociopaths lie with ease and....
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 05:29 AM
Aug 2017

All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.
It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
—?Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X[1]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

It's been reported that Trump used to read Hitler's work regularly, on his night table

Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”

“I don’t remember,” I said.

“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)

Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”


http://forward.com/schmooze/318664/trump-and-hitler/

No surprise this is happening.

NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
6. Huxwellian, being overly entertained with lies, ...
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 07:04 AM
Aug 2017

... is the world we live in. The deplorables swim in this cesspool we drown.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
8. This is an especially important article everyone should stop to read!
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 07:24 AM
Aug 2017

The psychology behind this is sound and has been demonstrated repeatedly. Hell, we're seeing it proven on the world-wide stage, forget about a university psych department study.

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