Dogwhistling-Dershowitz says DC grand jury has an "ethnic & racial composition" unfavorable to Trump

[kpete]

Link to tweet

http://www.wabcradio.com/2017/08/04/alan-dershowitz-tells-rita-cosby-new-mueller-d-c-grand-jury-racially-and-ethnically-stacked-against-trump/

[octoberlib]

1. Should Trump have an all white jury from Ohio? This is bs.

[Shrike47]

26. Of his peers: rich people who have committed fraud to get or stay that way.

[emulatorloo]

2. Yet another asshole whose mission in life is to protect Trump.

[oberliner]

3. This is a common line in Trump land

They are saying the Grand Jury should be comprised of people "in the heartland" of America.

[dalton99a]

4. Asswipe already said Trump should not be subject to prosecution

[gratuitous]

5. Perhaps Trump should have thought about that before embarking on a life of crime

Wow, so privileged white dudes can see how jury composition might work against them, but can't quite see how an all white jury might be a problem for a black or latino defendant? How's that for a color blind society?

[marylandblue]

6. Northern Virginia isn't much more favorable to Trump than DC

It's a very diverse and liberal area, not at all like Southern Virginia

[Gabi Hayes]

12. Ha. Alexandria is NOT a lily white bastion

Any court picking consultant would be hard pressed to pack a jury with T's KKKonstituency

Dershowitz is full of it, as he's become of late

[Freethinker65]

7. Dershowitz knows this is nonsense, but he also knows people will believe whatever he says

[LisaM]

27. And he's clearly laying the groundwork to give Trump an out.

It's just tactical on his part; what happened to him?

[Alice11111]

47. Exactly...laying the groundwork. He's is DT's corner.

Wonder why? I think we know.

[leftstreet]

8. Jury of his peers: low IQ indebted narcissists with bad hair?

DURec

[4139]

9. Thrill got 4% of the vote in D.C. ....

Heheeheehehehehe

[Gabi Hayes]

14. I was fantasizing today about D.C. Jury comp

The first thing they'd do is move for a C of V

[Alice11111]

49. For sure,but if anyone ever deserved that jury pool, DTdoes

[DonCoquixote]

10. Mr dershowitz

Why are you defending someone who came to power by empowering folks like Steve bannon. Do you really think you will be safe from theme just because they support Israel, or pretend to?

[procon]

11. Most Americans are unfavorable to Trump.

We won the popular vote after all.

[hlthe2b]

13. Doesn't he have some mass torture issue or some Genocidal maniac to defend?

Any seeming respect I may have had for his supposed reputation has long since been exposed as unfounded.

[rogue emissary]

15. Keith Boykin‏ had a more favorable response on Donny's DC grand jury composition.

Keith Boykin
Thinking of Mueller's grand jury on Trump and realizing that blacks are still the largest racial group in Washington, D.C. (Video Attached to tweet)

Link to tweet

[sharedvalues]

16. Dershowitz may be dirty. Been contradicted by Tribe repeatedly.

Conflict of interest
Dershowitz has been mentioned as having socialized with Epstein of the sex crimes. Trump also socialized with Epstein.

Don't think Dershowitz can be trusted.

[Gabi Hayes]

21. He represented the scum who kept Epstein's

victims from having a say at his (very very very obscenely) light sentencing

He should be serving LIFE!!!

Beyond appalling

And look who co-repped

Ken frickin STARR!!!!

My BP is spiking!!!!

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/alexander-acosta-trump-jeffrey-epstein-plea-235096

Plus, the crook who settled is now Sec Labor!!!!

Gotta read this, especially if you have low BP

[sharedvalues]

23. Worse. Dershowitz alleged present with Epstein at times

Not just a legal relationship. Some of Epstein's accusers made accusations about Dershowitz too.

Of course I'm as horrified as you about it all.

[Gabi Hayes]

24. I know....I started a long thread about this last year

AD threatened lawsuits to hell and back if anyone dared bring it up

I'll see if I can find it, but no DU google on this iPod touch

[Gabi Hayes]

25. Wtf?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7980814

[Alice11111]

59. Espstein's young girls, with DT, & Dershowitz

I read your DU thread and links, July 2016. Dershowitz,
Epstein, & maybe WJC, who I like. You are certainly the expert. I got physically ill reading about the raped teenager and Epstein's parties. I had to stop for an hour anf get an ce pack. Some of this is not even contested, right from DT's lips, but then so was Access Hollywood.

I've had experience in this area. The perverts always tell the young victims they will kill some members or all of their family. It's part of their recipe to protect themselves, and to force the victim's to continue. Also, no one would believe you, but I'm a respected lawyer, doctor, priest, preacher...and you would just be a liar who brought shame to your familyb plus, we will get your little sister. On and on, I've heard them all.

Anyway, you are so well informed and you have already documented your sources. Why not stir this wicked pot and expose some of the demons. For Cosby, it took people trying for years, and years. Then, the women came out to support each other.

Plus, for minors, most states have an extended statute of limitations now, which varies a lot between states. There are many ways skilled lawyers could extend it. If enough information gets out there, lawyers will come forward to take the cases.

I'm suggesting that you write an article or opinion for the NYTimes, WaPo, or maybe the Guardian.

It should be titled MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction. I'm sure you know that MAD refers to the weapons theories and assumptions behind the US and the Soviets remaining in a standoff about the use of nuclear weapons, when the world was a more simple place, and we could assume our enemy did not want to self destruct.

[Alice11111]

34. Yes, I condidered it unlikely that Dershowitz did that. However, now, given Epstein & Trump,&

Dershowitz 's turn to the right, who even knows?

[Gabi Hayes]

36. He did defend Epstein on sentencing suit

Not possible that he'd have something naughty to say about AD if his sentence wasn't a short sweety?

[Alice11111]

46. Sounds rhetorical. I'm starting to really dislike him.

Ten years ago, I liked to hear his take on things. Now, often he sounds raving, angry RW, though he occasionally takes an opposite position; it feels like that is just to maintain some modicum of credibility . Very Rare for an intellectual left of center to move to right of center. It Must take something very threatening.

[Alice11111]

50. Trump's statement: He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even

said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

Kenneth Starr is as much of a disgusting pervert as Trump. He was even demoted at Baylor for winking
at a sex scandal.

[Alice11111]

57. I read your DU thread and links, July 2016. Durshowitz,

Epstein, & maybe WJC, who I like. You are certainly the expert. I got physically ill reading about the raped teenager and Epstein's parties. Some of this is not even contested, right from DT's lips, but then so was Access Hollywood.

Anyway, you are so well informed and have already documented your sources. Why not stir this wicked pot and expose some of the demons. Like Cosby, it took people trying for years, and years. Then, the women came out to support each other.

I'm suggesting write an article or opinion for the NYTimes, WaPo, or maybe the Guardian.

It should be titled MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction. I'm sure you know that MAD refers to the weapons theories and assumptions behind the US and the Soviets remaining in a standoff about the use of nuclear weapons, when the world was a more simple place, and we could assume our enemy did not want to self destruct.

[Gabi Hayes]

58. Almost all C&P

And the lawsuit died, cause it could be that she, gand/or the guy pushing it, either don't have the goods, got scared off after the GTE 2016. She and her coterie were nowhere near as well organized/funded/represented as say, Paula jones and her Elves.

AFA Epstein, no hell is too _______ (can't even think of a strong enough adjective) for him.

And Trump.....roger stone said it about podesta, was it? his time in the barrel is soon arriving

[Alice11111]

60. I had reposted by your DU 2016 link to encourage others

to follow it.

I couldn't agree more. Don't let it die though. You have done an incredible amount of research and documented your sources.

I'm sure the girls were probably scared off or their parents were. There have to be many more out there. There are ways of bringing other lawsuits, criminal and civil. Even if no one ever receives compensation, to bring down the perps is worth it.

Maybe send it to Gloria Allred and write something in the Guardian.

It kills me for them to get away w it, because it will keep happening to more. I'm fairly convinced after reading ALL your links, which were very logically laid out. Dershowitz knew everything. DT abused young girls at the very least.

If it cast shade on WJC, so be it.
MAGA, MakeAmerica Grab Again

[Gabi Hayes]

61. Yeah......as Anne Marie Cox said, it's like waking up every morning to a dystopian

nightmare

I stayed away all day, but here I am, doing this, while listening to MSNBC

SAD!

Thx for paying attention

[Alice11111]

62. Sometimes it does get to me, I cry & have to get away.

We are living in a depressed nation, except for the RW mean crazies.

[Gabi Hayes]

63. Yep.....combination of Idiocracy and this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029429334

Shameless KB (kickbeg)

[sharedvalues]

17. If Trump didn't embrace hate and racism

Maybe he wouldn't need to find a jury pool without black people.

Make your bed, lie in it.

[Voltaire2]

18. Dersh wins the 2017 Joe Lieberman Award for Total Turd-Wallop.

[SaschaHM]

19. Seems about right that someone who appointed Jeff Sessions as Attorney General would..

have to deal w/ juries with racial/ethnic compositions that are unfavorable for him.

Why should it be any different for him?

[tanyev]

20. Patriotic Americans?

Yeah, I can see how that would be unfavorable for Trump.

[pnwmom]

22. Dershowitz is such slime. A DC grand jury makes perfect sense for a crime committed in DC.

Like obstruction, for instance.

But DT didn't commit any crimes, so why should he worry?

[LovesPNW]

28. Well, isn't that a shame.

Maybe a cross section of regular, every day Americans would contain people of various races and ethnicities ...

Get used to it, Dershowitz ...

[elleng]

29. F dershowitz!

[Alice11111]

51. + 1000

[Warpy]

30. Dershowitz, retire already. You're drunk

If you were sober, you'd know there is no racial or ethnic test for any jury, anywhere.

[Binkie The Clown]

31. I'm sure it has an ETHICAL composition unfavorable to Trump.

It would be hard to convene a grand jury that matched the Trump regime for lack of ethics.

[WinkyDink]

41. Ha! "Ethnics and Ethics: The Two Banes of Republicans."

[Alice11111]

52. Good one.

[Mr. Ected]

32. Trump needs to be more circumspect in where he commits crimes

He needs to obstruct, launder, perjure and treason in more lily-white environs.

That would fix it, right Mr. Dershowitless?

[Alice11111]

53. Don't forget sexual assault. Yes, he better do it where he

Gets a more white male racist, misogynist jury venue.

[Alice11111]

33. Fuck him. I'm sick of his Fox style statements, and his defending indecency.

[Motownman78]

35. I guess being a Harvard Law Professor

does not mean you are necessarily intelligent.

[DefenseLawyer]

37. Fame is intoxicating

Dershowitz was once a fairly accomplished appellate lawyer, so much so that he received a modicum of notoriety. Like a lot of people though, he enjoyed fame way too much. So for 20 years or so it seems he will say or do anything to get his name in the paper or get himself on television.

[mythology]

38. That dastardly Mueller probably didn't even kick all of the women off the grand jury

[bigtree]

39. tough

...trump and his followers regularly reject arguments about racial make-ups of juries.

Complaining now gives their game away.

[WinkyDink]

40. Nothing like denigrating America's system of jurisprudence. Dershowitz is despicable (and is also a

Friend of Jeffrey Epstein).

[stevenleser]

42. That's what voir dire is for. Trump has attorneys. nt

[Justice]

43. Not for grand jury.

[stevenleser]

45. Ah, right, good catch. Didnt see that part. Just about every grand jury indicts. They should stop

whining.

[nuxvomica]

48. He actually was referring to a trial jury pool

Dershowitz was pointing to the fact that should Mueller decide to prosecute the trial's jury pool would be from DC, so Dershowitz was glossing over voir dire protections.

[Not Ruth]

54. Yep, and we are currently in the grand jury stage

The grand jury is 99% certain to indict someone though, so he is ahead of the curve. Keep in mind that a criminal lawyer has the job of evading the law. He is doing a good job.

[Justice]

44. Ken Starr used a Washington grand jury and an Arkansas grand jury (at least)

[Gothmog]

55. Prof. Tribe disagrees

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

56. More from Prof. Tribe

Link to tweet