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JI7

(89,255 posts)
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 05:06 PM Aug 2017

Ken Starr Warns Mueller against Fishing Expeditions

Here's the key part:

"I think the gravamen of the original complaint was, was there collusion, to the extent you're moving beyond collusion with Russian operatives or Russian interests or the Russian government itself, and into that which doesn't seem to have a direct tie to Russia, then these questions are in fact raised. It becomes a litigable question that people are going to sidewalk about and disagree about it. I don't think it's clear one way or the other, but i do think it is a certainly a serious matter."


www.cnn.com/2017/08/04/politics/ken-starr-clinton-whitewater/index.html

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Ken Starr Warns Mueller against Fishing Expeditions (Original Post) JI7 Aug 2017 OP
Irony is indeed dead. RIP charlyvi Aug 2017 #1
Exactly what I thought Sanity Claws Aug 2017 #3
Yet BigMin28 Aug 2017 #4
Yes he did. And was sacked for it. charlyvi Aug 2017 #9
Funny, my daughter received a very large scholarship award from Baylor with Starr's name on it onetexan Aug 2017 #20
This sums it up fairly well.... charlyvi Aug 2017 #12
So do as I say not as I do. Got it asshole. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2017 #2
Onion. A-Schwarzenegger Aug 2017 #5
go away kenny spanone Aug 2017 #6
It was the same thing Newt Gingrich said this morning! imanamerican63 Aug 2017 #7
A message for the disgraced ex-president of Baylor University. kstewart33 Aug 2017 #8
I really can't stand their self-righteous hypocrisy! Chasstev365 Aug 2017 #10
what is Russian for go to Hell dsc Aug 2017 #11
Ahhhhh. A has been wants his name back up in lights. Sorry Kenny. You have no room to talk. appleannie1943 Aug 2017 #13
This deserves to be seen malaise Aug 2017 #14
Sigh Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #25
Kinda gives me the urge to play wackamole eleny Aug 2017 #15
Ken, nobody cares what you think. Shrike47 Aug 2017 #16
Fuck Off, Ken. Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #17
Biggest fishing expedition that only caught a bj. nt DoodAbides Aug 2017 #18
He would know all about it. lunatica Aug 2017 #19
And who would know more about stove-piping an investigation? gratuitous Aug 2017 #21
there's enough just with Russian mob transactions to keep Mueller busy for a decade nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #22
FUCK YOU Ken Starr Skittles Aug 2017 #23
like some high schooler telling LeBron James how to improve his game rurallib Aug 2017 #24
OMG! That is all! Ken Starr warns Mueller! OMG!! 7wo7rees Aug 2017 #26
I see Ken Starr is still the same smug SOB he always was. Though I don't think Monica Lewinsky was politicaljunkie41910 Aug 2017 #27
Lucyanne Goldberg is the one who ultimately sold out Lewinsky BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #38
Actually, it was Linda Tripp who recorded the conversations. She then blabbed it to Golderg who politicaljunkie41910 Aug 2017 #39
Yes, my bad. It was Tripp who made the recordings. BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #43
Says the man whose investigation NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #28
Mueller has his head on straight; bulk will be done October, an we'll wont know till november 4139 Aug 2017 #29
Mueller's not fishing C_U_L8R Aug 2017 #30
Keith Richards to youngsters 'don't do drugs' MiltonBrown Aug 2017 #31
Ex-to-the-mother-fucking-zactly! Iggo Aug 2017 #50
Don't screw it up loyalsister Aug 2017 #32
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha TeamPooka Aug 2017 #33
Rich Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2017 #34
Who cares what Starr thinks? Gothmog Aug 2017 #35
Having not heard from B.J. Starr in so long.... nolabels Aug 2017 #44
Nothing wrong with a fishing expedition Danascot Aug 2017 #36
He went from Whitewater where he found nothing, Cary Aug 2017 #37
I still hate you Ken Starr frogmarch Aug 2017 #40
Wow. Mr. Whitewater Real Estate Deal Turning Into Impeachment for a Blowjob? TomCADem Aug 2017 #41
Projection isn't just for Trump Nevernose Aug 2017 #42
lol Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #45
From the Bill Dance of lawyering no less. Are_grits_groceries Aug 2017 #46
Says the holder of the Special Prosecutor Bass Pro Tournament Record. yellowcanine Aug 2017 #47
Go peer behind a closed door, Kenny Boy. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #48
Says the man who led a vainglorious and dubious investigation to a man who has run salin Aug 2017 #49
Wow Orcrist Aug 2017 #51
But the fish are jumping into the boat, Ken. Iggo Aug 2017 #52

Sanity Claws

(21,850 posts)
3. Exactly what I thought
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 05:08 PM
Aug 2017

Starr was supposed to investigate Whitewater and he ends up investigating consensual sex.

onetexan

(13,048 posts)
20. Funny, my daughter received a very large scholarship award from Baylor with Starr's name on it
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 05:53 PM
Aug 2017

Seeing his name on the award letter turned my stomach.Kiddo turned down baylor's offer after visiting the campus & said given how conservative the school was she would not survive there. She decided on U.T. Austin instead.

imanamerican63

(13,806 posts)
7. It was the same thing Newt Gingrich said this morning!
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 05:15 PM
Aug 2017
More mixed message, but using the same words! Diversion at all cost!

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
8. A message for the disgraced ex-president of Baylor University.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 05:15 PM
Aug 2017

Ken, take a good long look in the mirror.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. And who would know more about stove-piping an investigation?
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:01 PM
Aug 2017

As long as Starr had his own friendly pet judge (David Sentelle) to rubber stamp every request to expand his inquiries, he was a happy camper.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
23. FUCK YOU Ken Starr
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:06 PM
Aug 2017

who the FUCK do you think you are besides A BIG ASSHOLE who wasted a LOT of taxpayer money

rurallib

(62,432 posts)
24. like some high schooler telling LeBron James how to improve his game
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:10 PM
Aug 2017

WTF Kenny - dying to get your name in the press once more?

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
26. OMG! That is all! Ken Starr warns Mueller! OMG!!
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:15 PM
Aug 2017

Don't know whether to laugh or to cry.

This country is going to.........?

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
27. I see Ken Starr is still the same smug SOB he always was. Though I don't think Monica Lewinsky was
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:22 PM
Aug 2017

a victim in any way by President Clinton, as they were both adults and the relationship was consensual, I think she was "victimized" and violated in the worse way by Ken Starr when he published his report in the form of a book for all the world to see, and see they did. That report was the seediest, non-consensual public report ever issued about a non-fictional character and Starr did it to prove as a member of the Moral Minority that people who have sexual relations outside of marriage and outside of church sanctioned missionary style intercourse deserve to be publicly humiliated for their transgressions. I'm sure Ken Starr still uses that report for self gratification.

I know the Far Right will say, "But Clinton lied under oath." The truth is the questioned never should have been asked "under oath" or otherwise, once Starr had interviewed Lewinsky and determined that the relationship was consensual; not rape, not sexual harassment in the workplace, etc. The question did not deserve an answer. The "CRIME" occurred when Starr decided that their consensual sexual activities deserved to be exposed because it was "SIN". No woman deserves to be humiliated in that way by the government for fear of being jailed and Ken Starr threatened both Monica and her mother with prosecution, if they didn't tell him every seedy, sordid detail of that relationship. If I were Monica's mother, I would not have told him anything and would have encouraged my daughter to do likewise. I would have rather been jailed than to be humiliated and ashamed to show my face in public for the next 20+ years as a result of what Starr released to the public. Her children will read that report some day.

BannonsLiver

(16,410 posts)
38. Lucyanne Goldberg is the one who ultimately sold out Lewinsky
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:32 PM
Aug 2017

She recorded conversations with Lewinsky but didn't tell her. Some friend.

Then Lucyanne cashed in and became a right wing media pundit with the obligatory speaking fees and all that.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
39. Actually, it was Linda Tripp who recorded the conversations. She then blabbed it to Golderg who
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:10 AM
Aug 2017

passed it on to the Special Prosecutor, Ken Starr. Goldberg also had two sons; one who worked for his mother's company; and her other son, who seemed like he was a deadbeat and gossiper like his Mom, and that son (shortly after the incident was revealed) was instrumental in passing on the gossip information as well. The deadbeat son, was always on the news/political talk shows and under his name they always said Jonah Goldberg, Son of Lucianne Goldberg, as if at his age that was his only claim to fame.

4139

(1,893 posts)
29. Mueller has his head on straight; bulk will be done October, an we'll wont know till november
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:35 PM
Aug 2017

Mueller wants this over, that's why he hired so many other lawyers.

I don't mean any prosecution will be over, but investigation over in October, indictments November.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
32. Don't screw it up
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:12 PM
Aug 2017

is how I read that. "It becomes a litigable question that people are going to sidewalk about and disagree about it" as in it is not in the best interest of the investigation to have an outraged public calling their congress members about it as if it is just another vote in congress. It's bigger than that and public pressure is not going to be helpful when we want congress to look at the facts without thinking about what their constituencies think about them.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
44. Having not heard from B.J. Starr in so long....
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 02:15 AM
Aug 2017

a person could only predict he would start chirping just about now.

What a loser

Cary

(11,746 posts)
37. He went from Whitewater where he found nothing,
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:27 PM
Aug 2017

To Rose Law Firm billing and futures trading, finding notbing,...
to lying about an extra-marital relationship that was deemed irrelevant in a deposition in a civil case that was deemed to be frivolous. Ken had an limited budget with unlimited resources and in the end penned a third rate soft core.porn short story.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
41. Wow. Mr. Whitewater Real Estate Deal Turning Into Impeachment for a Blowjob?
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:18 AM
Aug 2017

Irony is indeed dead.

salin

(48,955 posts)
49. Says the man who led a vainglorious and dubious investigation to a man who has run
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:28 AM
Aug 2017

hundreds of reputable investigations.

 

Orcrist

(73 posts)
51. Wow
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:32 AM
Aug 2017

That's like having a serial rapist caution you not to be too forward on a first date.

I'll say one thing for republicans. They have no fear of hypocrisy baby. They will put that shit on and wear it as boldly as a hooker wears spandex.

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