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Stinky The Clown

(67,812 posts)
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:58 PM Aug 2017

I *think* I heard on O'Donnell's hour that Mueller may not have empaneled his own Grand Jury

Instead, he is simply using one that is already sitting.

Federal Grand Juries are there for 18 month terms and hear hundreds of cases. A prosecutor need only schedule time with them.

Maybe I heard this from Joy Reid, now that I think about it. No matter. It seems the NYT had one story and the WSJ had the other slant - his own Grand Jury or an already sitting Grand Jury. In terms of the investigation, it is a difference without a material effect.

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I *think* I heard on O'Donnell's hour that Mueller may not have empaneled his own Grand Jury (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Aug 2017 OP
Are grand juries impaneled after a prosecutor's interrogation? If Mueller Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2017 #1
GJs serve multiple prosecutors Stinky The Clown Aug 2017 #3
Wow! Noisy room! Don't you hate carcomplete? Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #8
Argh! CASES Stinky The Clown Aug 2017 #12
That would contradict the WSJ story Miles Archer Aug 2017 #2
Yes, that is basically what they were saying. NYT had one version, WSJ had another Stinky The Clown Aug 2017 #4
Are we arguing semantics? blogslut Aug 2017 #13
Insignificant difference between SPECIAL Grand Jury and already sitting grand jury, I heard. elleng Aug 2017 #5
Yes, that's what i heard, too. Stinky The Clown Aug 2017 #6
I served one one of these 18 months grand juries. Depending a panel Catmusicfan Aug 2017 #7
The ME who called BS on the JFK autopsy? Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #9
I don't have details of that case I was not on that panel. Catmusicfan Aug 2017 #10
When/where? Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #11
We meet each months and it would Catmusicfan Aug 2017 #14
1-3 days a month??? Gabi Hayes Aug 2017 #15
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
1. Are grand juries impaneled after a prosecutor's interrogation? If Mueller
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 11:01 PM
Aug 2017

could not affect the composition - maybe it didn't matter

Stinky The Clown

(67,812 posts)
3. GJs serve multiple prosecutors
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 11:03 PM
Aug 2017

As I said in the OP, they typically hear hundreds of cars over the course of their terms.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
2. That would contradict the WSJ story
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 11:03 PM
Aug 2017

Not saying that's impossible, of course...just saying that this is what the WSJ ran today:

Special Counsel Robert Mueller Impanels Washington Grand Jury in Russia Probe

https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-impanels-washington-grand-jury-in-russia-probe-1501788287

By Del Quentin Wilber and Byron Tau
Updated Aug. 3, 2017 3:38 p.m. ET
Special Counsel Robert Mueller has impaneled a grand jury in Washington to investigate Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections, a sign that his inquiry is growing in intensity ...

Stinky The Clown

(67,812 posts)
4. Yes, that is basically what they were saying. NYT had one version, WSJ had another
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 11:07 PM
Aug 2017

Both agreed on the essence of the story - Mueller is working with a Grand Jury *at least* to use their subpoena power (Mueller does not have subpoena power).

blogslut

(38,006 posts)
13. Are we arguing semantics?
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 02:05 AM
Aug 2017
im·pan·el
imˈpanl/
verb
past tense: impaneled; past participle: impaneled

enlist or enroll (a jury).


I do not speak lawyer. Does a Grand Jury have to be a fresh one in order to be impaneled? Can Mueller not impanel an existing Grand Jury?

Catmusicfan

(816 posts)
7. I served one one of these 18 months grand juries. Depending a panel
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 12:34 AM
Aug 2017

Gets employed empaneled every other month or so. My panel heard various parts of various cases would convince 1-3 days a month. Now the jury that got seated a month after mine was one hearing evidence one 1 case. It was the Cyril Wetch (sp?) Case. We were not told anything about the case we were told that because the case was so complex and in-depth they wanted 1 panel to hear all the evidence and be able to decide if there is enough evidence to bring an indictment. That panel also had a more regulated schedule 2 full day and 1 1/2 day. Also that panel day slightly changed from a typical panel usually the panel meet tues - thurs. I remember the 1/2 was a Friday. (At least it was what I remember hearing.) My thinking is that a panel is dedicated to this alone + if the close of the 18months is coming up and it is not complete Mueller can go back and asked the panel be extended for another 6 months.

Catmusicfan

(816 posts)
10. I don't have details of that case I was not on that panel.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 12:42 AM
Aug 2017

I was just trying to help explain panels and how they work.

Catmusicfan

(816 posts)
14. We meet each months and it would
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 07:10 AM
Aug 2017

Range 1-3 days this was a few years ago. Wikipedia the man I am sure it will have the information.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
15. 1-3 days a month???
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 07:14 AM
Aug 2017

This will last til the sun expands into our atmosphere!

They only have a few dozen on staff, as per CNN a few minutes ago

Thx

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