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What if Donald Trump urges his acolytes to take up arms ? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 OP
I'm being dead serious DSB, it would not surprise me Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #1
Did you see his West Virginia speech ? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #3
I've only seen excerpts...waiting till the fam is in bed to watch the whole thing Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #5
He is instigating bdamomma Aug 2017 #7
He implied Mueller and the Democrats are trying to overturn the will of the people and Constitution. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #14
trump is continuing bdamomma Aug 2017 #25
Then I'll lock my doors SCantiGOP Aug 2017 #2
Why do you think the cops, especially, would....... socialist_n_TN Aug 2017 #33
I'm not going to argue the point SCantiGOP Aug 2017 #42
They wouldn't be going against "professional soldiers".......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2017 #43
whoever is in the street with guns, SCantiGOP Aug 2017 #44
Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2017 #4
Wouldn't that be a coup? Laffy Kat Aug 2017 #6
I was thinking about exactly that. Gonna drive the nut jobs out of their klan compounds. lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #8
And do what with them? oberliner Aug 2017 #9
If Trump urges his followers to foment an insurrection.... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #13
Jim Jones encouraged his followers to commit mass suicide oberliner Aug 2017 #22
Bring it workinclasszero Aug 2017 #10
How would they know who to shoot? leftstreet Aug 2017 #11
I've posted on this before, the most dangerous would attack infrastructure Amishman Aug 2017 #17
They will be put down like rabid dogs. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #18
They will be put down by whom?........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2017 #34
These people couldn't organize a fuck in a whorehouse. Dave Starsky Aug 2017 #19
Don't forget the box HAB911 Aug 2017 #20
They asked for sex toys ? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #21
LOL, no they didn't request them but they received them HAB911 Aug 2017 #23
OMG. I never saw the "unboxing". Dave Starsky Aug 2017 #24
What a fucktard oswaldactedalone Aug 2017 #29
"These people couldn't organize a fuck in a whorehouse." You win the thread. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2017 #30
Lofl YCHDT Aug 2017 #35
Meet ups in WallyWorld parking lots safeinOhio Aug 2017 #12
Chillingly, he does have the same kind of cadence when Solomon Aug 2017 #15
And like Trump he preyed on the alienated, gullible, and vulnerable. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #16
can I add the uneducated bdamomma Aug 2017 #28
US Military oswaldactedalone Aug 2017 #26
We DO have the Army/Navy/Marines, elleng Aug 2017 #27
Most of right-wing "Bring It!!!" types I know Comatose Sphagetti Aug 2017 #31
+1 YCHDT Aug 2017 #36
I absolutely do see trump urging rebellion if he's threatened Comatose Sphagetti Aug 2017 #32
Then it will be up to us to defend ourselves......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2017 #37
He is just trying to shore up his base. Willie Pep Aug 2017 #38
Hey, if that means they leave to start their own country and then drink poison koolade then, ok. AJT Aug 2017 #39
Plenty of us on the Left are well armed. MiltonBrown Aug 2017 #40
If they shoot the way they spell malaise Aug 2017 #41

Docreed2003

(16,869 posts)
5. I've only seen excerpts...waiting till the fam is in bed to watch the whole thing
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:37 PM
Aug 2017

His devotees are truly a cult. After having read the recent book about Jonestown, I would suggest the comparisons to Jones aren't far off the mark.

bdamomma

(63,913 posts)
25. trump is continuing
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:15 PM
Aug 2017

to play up to his base, making up lies and trying to divide people. His base doesn't have a clue how they are being manipulated by this con man.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
2. Then I'll lock my doors
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:32 PM
Aug 2017

And wait till the police and military arrest/kill all of them.
Most of the 101st Alt-right Fighting Keyboardists would crap their pants if confronted by the authorities.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
33. Why do you think the cops, especially, would.......
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:39 PM
Aug 2017

"arrest/kill" ANY of them? The cop "unions" all supported Trump. I'm not sure about the military, but I don't really trust them either. At this point, the military would probably stay neutral.

Any self-defense against this type of scenario would be provided by ourselves alone. And the few antifa militias out there.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
42. I'm not going to argue the point
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 07:21 PM
Aug 2017

But I don't think commissioned law enforcement or active military would commit obvious treason and Ignore their sworn oaths to allow an illegal insurrection.

And if it comes down to "antifa militias" please surrender immediately rather than last 5 minutes against professional soldiers.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
43. They wouldn't be going against "professional soldiers"..........
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 03:09 PM
Aug 2017

The OP asked about Trump calling out his SUPPORTERS and inciting violence using them. NOT calling for the military to use violence against the people. So the Antifa militias would be going against other "amateurs" and NOT against
"professional soldiers". And maybe the cops.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
44. whoever is in the street with guns,
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 04:14 PM
Aug 2017

will be going up against the police, and then, if necessary, the National Guard and then the US Armed Forces.
I'm not going to waste my time arguing that the army would sit back and let armed militias fight it out.
The Army will follow the orders of their Commander in Chief until such time as they judge those orders to be illegal or unconstitutional, at which time they would follow the directions of their chain of command and the Congress.
Precedent: In Nixon's waning days the Joint Chiefs were informed by the Sec of Defense and others at the highest level of government not to follow an order from Nixon to launch an attack, but to check with them at which time they could use the "incapacitated" clause in the constitutional amendment to immediately remove the President.

H2O Man

(73,577 posts)
4. Recommended.
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:35 PM
Aug 2017

I do not think that Trump believes in a peaceful transfer of power. However, considering his cowardly nature, I doubt he will be more resistant at the end that George Wallace standing in that doorway.

He may encourage unrest among his alt-right followers. They would seem more likely to act out after Trump is removed.

lindysalsagal

(20,712 posts)
8. I was thinking about exactly that. Gonna drive the nut jobs out of their klan compounds.
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:54 PM
Aug 2017

Gonna be some cleaning up, and possibly some loss of property, if not lives.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. If Trump urges his followers to foment an insurrection....
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 07:15 AM
Aug 2017

If Trump urges his followers to foment an insurrection if impeachment proceedings begin I want the authorities to treat them like any other insurrectionists, wouldn't you ?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
10. Bring it
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 10:58 PM
Aug 2017

This country is full of desperate people living on the edge everyday with hardly anything to lose.

Trump supporters/republicans have lots to lose.

Bring it.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
17. I've posted on this before, the most dangerous would attack infrastructure
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:44 AM
Aug 2017

They know the areas where most of us live, and could do a lot of damage to electric substations, bridges, and other infrastructure that supports blue areas.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
34. They will be put down by whom?........
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:42 PM
Aug 2017

I've seen several people on this thread seemingly thinking that the cops are going to stop them. Or the military. I don't trust EITHER of those groups to "do the right thing".

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
19. These people couldn't organize a fuck in a whorehouse.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:03 AM
Aug 2017

We saw how formidable their revolutionary efforts are when they took over those public facilities in Oregon and settled in for a "siege". Within a week, they were literally asking the Internet to send them Doritos and Little Debbies.

And that was their best, their brightest, and their most motivated at work.

bdamomma

(63,913 posts)
28. can I add the uneducated
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:19 PM
Aug 2017

if they freaking read a newspaper they would have a clue instead of being fed crap from Fox news.

Comatose Sphagetti

(836 posts)
31. Most of right-wing "Bring It!!!" types I know
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:30 PM
Aug 2017

are middle-aged and older, obese white guys w/arsenals who would literally have a coronary if they had to run 50 yards flat out.

Comatose Sphagetti

(836 posts)
32. I absolutely do see trump urging rebellion if he's threatened
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:33 PM
Aug 2017

He's doing the "us vs. them" dog whistle crap for his base now.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
37. Then it will be up to us to defend ourselves.........
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:45 PM
Aug 2017

Antifa militias are the ONLY organized force at this time that would be guaranteed to take them on. The cops and the military are NOT an option to rely on for self-defense. That's going to be on us.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
38. He is just trying to shore up his base.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:54 PM
Aug 2017

Trump has his hardcore followers who will follow him no matter what but he needs to keep some of the swing voters on his side so he is going back to the carnival-like campaign tactics. The thing is, that can work during a campaign when you are not in office and you position yourself as an outsider. But once you are president people expect you do get stuff done. Like I said, his hardcore followers eat this stuff up but the real audience will be those swing voters the Republicans need to win in 2018 and 2020. These stunts might actually turn them off.

Edit: But as to the taking up arms issue, yeah it is something of a concern. I don't think there will be some mass uprising of Trump supporters because most of them are all talk but all it takes is one nut to commit a mass shooting so that is worrisome.

MiltonBrown

(322 posts)
40. Plenty of us on the Left are well armed.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 06:59 PM
Aug 2017

Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and stopping these fascists. Nothing is more American.

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