Seems To Be No Escape From This Nightmare.

[TheMastersNemesis]

Even if Trump were to go we have Pence. Maybe worse.

[gordianot]

1. 1:22 AM here I woke up from a nightmare.

It appears he also causes during the day fully awake. My mistake I went to bed at 10:30.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

2. Don't let what you can't do stop you from doing what you can

Focus where you can have an impact. Local issues. Non-profits. Legal aid. Seek out like minded people.

Kennedy/Johnson was followed by Nixon/Ford. That's the nature of our bizarre republic.

[Alice11111]

4. Good reminder!!

[WinkyDink]

7. Ahem. Johnson/Humphrey. Nixon/Agnew. Nixon/Ford.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

13. I was refering to 8 year presidencies

So from 61-69 we had JFK and LBJ. From 69-77 we had Dick and Gerry. Gerry, of course, was never elected.

[WinkyDink]

14. You were not exactly clear on your rather unusual way of looking at Presidential

"terms."

E.g., I highly doubt that anyone---historians, biographers, the men themselves---viewed Johnson's Presidency as part of JFK's (yeah, yeah, Civil Rights, 1964).

[Algernon Moncrieff]

15. I look at as blocks of the party in power in the White House.

So I look at FDR/Truman as one 20 year stretch. Similarly, I see Bush 1 as -- essentially -- an extension of Reagan.

Johnson is really odd, historically. His pairing with Kennedy was about as much of an odd couple as Andrew Johnson's pairing with Lincoln. LBJ essentially leverages the death of JFK to get the social safety net we know today through Congress, and (albeit reluctantly) gets the Civil Rights act passed. On the other hand, he was a hawk -- Vietnam, the Dominican Republic, etc.

[FreepFryer]

3. Still neither hopeless nor discouraged by such jeremiads. (n/t)

[aeromanKC]

5. Yes, the damage to America and American Democracy has been done

BUT, Trump can be (and will in my opinion) be totally professionally and financially destroyed. That helps me sleep at night.

[pnwmom]

6. Bill Moyers lists evidence that Pence is complicit.

http://billmoyers.com/story/timeline-pences-role-white-houses-russia-related-mess/

[PBass]

10. Umm, that's a rather extensive list LOL (NT)

[SergeStorms]

8. Yeah, it's just a........

giant smorgasbord of incompetence and archaic beliefs. Their entire agenda revolves around stealing from the poor and giving to the rich.

Hopefully we can keep anyone who's in line for the position wrapped up in law suits and general mayhem until we can vote them all out. Due diligence is the key phrase for the next 3 1/2 years.

[PBass]

9. Pence is almost as incompetent as Trump, and without the media skills.

Pence would be a step up from Trump, IMO.

Also, Pence is implicated in the Russia scandal too. If Trump goes, Pence probably does too. But Pence will certainly be in an extremely weak position, if he does take over.

[BSdetect]

12. Add Ryan and McConnell to the list of traitors.

[whathehell]

11. Conservative as he is, Pence isn't crazy -- That's a huge advantage right there.

I'd much prefer Pence to Trump.