Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev: Trump is an "incompetent player" who will be "liquidated" by the US esta

[MelissaB]

It's interesting this is coming from a conservative website...

Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev: Trump is an "incompetent player" who will be "liquidated" by the US establishment

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Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev: Trump is an 'incompetent player' who will be 'liquidated' by the US establishment

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In a Facebook post specifically referencing Trump, the Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev (No. 2 only to Putin), warned that Congress sees Trump as "an incompetent player" who must be "liquidated".

Yes, you read that right.

While Medvedev is suggesting that Congress will liquidate Trump for opposing their efforts to sanction Russia, this also reeks of a Russian warning to Trump specifically. The rest of Medvedev's post was equally aggressive. He suggested that Trump has shown "complete impotence, in the most humiliating manner, transferring executive powers to Congress" and that this is the "beginning of full-fledged trade war" and "the end of our hopes of improving relations with the new administration."

Let's be clear, this a very cold, very traditional Russian threat. And if it comes from Medvedev, it comes from Putin.


As John Schindler warned earlier this week], it seems increasingly likely that the Russians have abandoned Trump. Their first priority was sanctions relief and now they've got the opposite.

More: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/russian-prime-minister-dmitry-medvedev-trump-is-an-incompetent-player-who-will-be-eliminated-by-the-us-establishment/article/2630446

[C_U_L8R]

1. Liquidated? Liquidated?

Interesting choice of words there.
Is he dangling the Pee Pee Tape out there?

[MelissaB]

2. Bwahahahaha! I hope so.

[FM123]

3. I like how you connect the dots

[C_U_L8R]

6. The drip drip drip was pretty revealing

Now what's he inferring with 'impotence'?
Donnie's got a dysfunctional dongle too?

[njhoneybadger]

9. I'm thinking also financially liquidated.

That would scare the bejesus out of tRump

[Fresh_Start]

14. normally when putin liquidates someone....he isn't trying to embarrass them

he's trying to bury them

[Alice11111]

74. That's my take. It is also a thinly veiled threat.

[Ernest Partridge]

48. Did Medvedev say "ликвидируются"?

"The choice of words" was by the translator.

Medvedev, presumably, spoke in Russian. I'd like to know what Russian word was translated a "liquidated."

Perhaps that word translates accurately as "liquidated" (i.e. killed, like during Stalin's purges). Perhaps not.

Perhaps it merely means "removed from office." Or something else.

Translation is a tricky business and invites malicious mischief.

Any Russian language scholars out there who can help us?

[Igel]

56. Here ya go.

Medvedev:

Американский истеблишмент вчистую переиграл Трампа. Новая санкционная тема возникла прежде всего как еще один способ поставить Трампа на место. Впереди новые заходы, конечная цель которых – отстранение его от власти. Несистемный игрок должен быть ликвидирован, - делает вывод Медведев и тут же озвучивает прогнозы на будущее. Весьма печальные.

https://www.kp.ru/daily/26713.4/3738372/ (That would be Komsomol'skaya Pravda. Just peachy.)

"The American establishment outplayed Trump. The new topic of sanctions came about first and foremost as yet another means to put Trump in his place. Other tries lie ahead, the end goal of which is to remove him from power. The outsider player has to be be liquidated," concluded Medvedev and immediately gave his prognoses for the future: Very dismal.

"Liquidated" is ликвидирован, "likvidirovan," the past passive particle of likvidirovat' "to liquidate".

[Alice11111]

75. Thank you. Impressive

[elehhhhna]

52. No, this is chilling. Intel "assets" are "liquidated". This is a direct explicit threat.

This is scary and brazen.

[rock]

54. Well I hope he's talking about a very large

Cuisinart!

[Danascot]

73. Snort!

[SummerSnow]

59. Liquidated? Wow!

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liquidate


Definition of liquidate
liquidated; liquidating
transitive verb
1
a (1) : to determine by agreement or by litigation the precise amount of (indebtedness, damages, or accounts) (2) : to determine the liabilities (see liability 2) and apportion assets toward discharging the indebtedness of
b : to settle (a debt) by payment or other settlement liquidate a loan
2
archaic : to make clear
3
: to do away with especially by killing was hired to liquidate a certain businessman
4
: to convert (assets) into cash liquidated his securities
intransitive verb
1
: to liquidate debts, damages, or accounts
2
: to determine liabilities (see liability 2) and apportion assets toward discharging indebtedness

* wow, if someone said they were going to do me in by liquidating, I would be scared.

[Azathoth]

4. It's a clever move by Medvedev

When you want Trump to do something, just question his strength and manliness when he doesn't do it.

[MelissaB]

5. Russia's state TV re: challenges posed by Congress forcing Trump to sign sanctions. Host concludes:"

Russia's state TV re: challenges posed by Congress forcing Trump to sign sanctions. Host concludes:"We need to elect our own U.S. Congress."

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[CrispyQ]

17. They might pull it, off too.

Your response deserves it's own post.

[MiddleClass]

22. "Elect our own U.S. Congress" sounds like she thinks they already elected a US President

This is way bigger than the original post, it shows intent

[NewJeffCT]

45. well, if you're talking a $500 billion oil deal

dumping $1 or $2 billion to elect more guys like Rohrbacher and Trump is small money

[Cosmocat]

65. That is EXACTLY what that was

a dig that they got 45 electeed.

[Alice11111]

76. No doubt.

[Maraya1969]

93. Found this scary post down in the thread

[link:|

[MiddleClass]

94. OMG, wholly shit, that's probably what happened in Michigan and now Wisconsin

Russian oligarchs worked in with American oligarchs, Mersers, Romneys, Koch's, Betsy Devos, Freddy Prince

, something stinks in Denmark, I mean, Michigan

[flibbitygiblets]

33. This deserves it's own post. Lots to unpack here.

[Duppers]

64. K & R, MelissaB. Agreeing with previous replies.

[Skraxx]

7. Oh Snap!!! "Liquid"dated!!! INCOMING!! Putin now knows Trump can't deliver the goods!!

Bwhahahahahahahhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Downtown Hound]

8. Eat a dick Russia

Those sanctions will stay in place forever if they have to be, but your days of interfering in our democracy without repercussions are over.

[MelissaB]

10. Important to conversation, tweets by Dmitry Medvedev:

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[Skraxx]

11. Trump is gonna lose it! Ha!

[smirkymonkey]

41. My only regret is that I won't be there to see the meltdown

when it happens.

[leftstreet]

12. Jeebus. "Handing over executive power?"

Uh, the US has this thing like separate gvt branches?

Good grief!

[RKP5637]

29. Yeah, they don't get it. Trump is not Putin's singular rule! n/t

[Lucky Luciano]

43. They know this, but they also know how to push shithead's buttons. nt

[Igel]

57. Yup.

There are breeches in the fence.

Some of the bill's language, Trump's official signing statement says, are iffy. Some of his lawyers' claims are far more clearly right than others, to say the least.

It's worth noting that it's a commonplace claim that Congress is usurping executive power. Usually doesn't make it into signing statements. Obama/Clinton didn't like the Magnitsky act, instead wanting a repeal of the Jackson-Vanik Amendments from 1975 that restricted trade. Obama signed both the Magnitsky Act and the trade-restriction repeal that was bundled with it. Trump's points are Obama's: The president is in charge of foreign policy, and while Congress has authority over international trade-deal approvals like pipelines, this isn't it. (Even then, Obama tried to argue that Congress really didn't have authority, and vetoed the bill.)

Ford didn't much like the Jackson-Vanik Act when it was signed, but didn't document it with a separate signing statement. Kissinger thought it tied his hands. But Kissinger didn't get to issue a signing statement.

I did like the Jackson-Vanik Act, though. Sort of still wish it were around.

[leftstreet]

69. Wow

I was refreshing my memory on Jackson-Vanik and I totally didn't realize Magnitsky Act actually repealed J-V !! Interesting. How did I not know that?

Have to wonder what Scoop would think

Thanks for bringing it up

[MelissaB]

13. The Russian Embassa in the USA retweeted the first tweet.

Just an FYI.

[R B Garr]

15. Wow, they are scolding Trump personally! What a glaring insight into

how much he is beholden to them. It looks like they are frustrated he can't just eliminate people who stand in his way.

Wow....scary.

[sinkingfeeling]

20. Note to Russia: Congress is equal to the executive branch.

[Blue_Roses]

62. Now someone needs to remind Trump of that fact

[Voltaire2]

91. not with respect to foreign policy

they can impose sanctions, but that is pretty much all they can do.

[ecstatic]

72. Welp...that's one Tweeter that I will NOT be responding to

lol. As much as I'd like to.

[get the red out]

87. Trump's signing statement

talked about Congress taking executive powers. It was also in full sentences and stuck to topic, so I am sure Trump didn't write it.

[MiddleClass]

16. "Liquidated" interesting word choice,

if the dossier is correct, you could say 2 prostitutes urinating on Cheeto is "having him urinated"

sounds like a threat about sanctions

[klook]

18. Trump is Putin's best shot.

He's not getting the results he paid for, so he's trying to intimidate him into complying. Not Pence, not Ryan, nor any other politician wouldn't be the malleable stooge he expected Trump to be, so he's trying to work with what he's got while it lasts.

[Alice11111]

79. I think Putin just owns Trump. They loaned him so much money,

he can never repay it. They made deals, he gets rid of the sanctions, all loans are forgiven. He helps make it easier to laundry money or a few other smaller tasks. They give him a very small percentage of Gazprom, easily disguised, but it still amounts to billions. It is the carrot and stick

DT thought it would be carrots. Putin thought it was a bet, and if DT didn't win, he could still stick it to Hillary and rattle the elections. If DT did manage an outside victory, Putin already owned him. However, Putin didn't count on it going so far that it backfired.

Now, thete aren't any more carrots. Even though DT was desperately trying to apologize to Putin by signing the sanctions bill, and it's obvious to Putin that Trump had no choice, his usefulness is now limited, or even a liability.
The sticks will come out eventually.

Isn't this obvious?

[MiddleClass]

89. Exactly, this is the scenario I came up with when everyone was talking about Hillary's emails

James Comey was scolding Hillary Clinton as careless, implying classified information.

I was like, what's going on really, why does Don the con cover for Vladimir Putin.

I googled "Donald Trump, Russian connections" and came up with Time magazine.

Article about Drake Hotel, Trump Soho, Mister Sadr, Trump Tower, Russian investment firm.

Read – studied the whole article. While James Comey scolded Hillary, thinking W T F

now that Mister Browder testified, the whole picture is coming into focus.

Wording tells us Vladimir is cracking the whip getting Trump's attention.

Prime Minister using liquefied. I thought referring to urinate, I think it's referring to financial liquidation.

Donald Trump financial liquidation, congressional presidential liquidation (i.e. impeachment)

[Alice11111]

95. Yep! Yep! Of course, liquidation of assets.

[MiddleClass]

96. Pressing buttons that Donald Trump is most fearful of

[Chemisse]

19. Awww. They're disappointed.

All that effort that went into swinging the election, and it turns out that Trump is so stupid and bumbling that he's rendered himself completely impotent.

[unblock]

21. i think we're taking this far too lightly. this is a russian government death threat against potus

much as a loathe benedict donald, i don't want him assassinated, for many reasons.

[flibbitygiblets]

31. He said POTUS would be liquidated by US establishment

I don't take that as a death threat. I take it as a sign of regret that their puppet can't perform for them. It's taunting trump, daring him to stand up and do better.

Russia went to all that trouble to intervene in our elections and all they got were these stupid sanctions. They didn't bet on congress forcing the issue.

[unblock]

40. they're not going to come out and say they're going to commit a very flagrant act of war

of course they're going to try to pin it on someone else.

if people didn't have pee on the brain (ok try not to take that expression literally) it would be obvious that "liquidate" is a death threat.

no doubt russians have some people in the "us establishment" they could pay to do their dirty work for them.

[Alice11111]

83. They have undisclosed sgents here, who ate here and trained

for such things, jus like they dd in the UK.

[Voltaire2]

92. but it clearly was not "we are going to liquidate Trump" it was "the US establishment is going to

liquidate Trump". That is not a threat from Russia, it is a Russian observation about the US political system. Construing this as some sort of cryptic threat is a bit silly.

[MelissaB]

34. I do think it's a threat, but I'm unsure of what kind.

I don't want him assassinated, either. I want him humiliated... bigly.

[ProudLib72]

46. Meh, PINO at best

[unblock]

49. fair point. still, it's a threat to our sovereignty.

[jrthin]

63. I don't advocate assignation!!! However, Putie got to do what Putie got to do. nt

[central scrutinizer]

70. No shit!

That would bring about martial law and an end to the Constitution.

[Alice11111]

80. Why would you care? It might unite the Republicans?

[AlexSFCA]

23. don't take the bait yet

I would be cautious to make any conclusions based on putin's early signals. Questions remain how the sanctions will be enforced by trump admin. If there is a war, would they be temporarily stopped? If he gets one more SC justice, will they the court rule that trump has the power to lift sanctions w/o congress? Putin's response is obviously meant for russian people to continue his anti-american propaganda leading up to next year's election.

[Alice11111]

84. Yes, the Court thing is DT'S best hope. He he weren't so obsessed

with gutting the ACA, he should be pushing to confirm federal judges...if he really wants to screw his country.
The Repubs are so determined to repeal regulations and get tax cuts, that they are holding on to him. However, as Wall Street has said, so what if he's impeached, we get Pence, who will do the same things, but without all of the noise.

[MiddleClass]

24. I almost feel, I would have more respect for trump if he released the urination video himself

Just to stick it up Vladimir's rear. We're talking none now, miniscule, then

[njhoneybadger]

25. tRump you are pathetic and veak man vith little fingerz.

[Rabrrrrrr]

26. Trump is the best thing that could have happened to Russia.

He is so manipulatable.

Medvedev (and thus Putin) is just pulling the strings on Trump, calling him impotent against Congress to get Trump to get even more angry against the politicians he is supposed to work with. They know him too well - the KGB are good at psychology, and they know how to get Trump to do stupid shit. And they also likely have a shit ton of black mail on the guy and his family as well, so that only helps. But even without the blackmail stuff, Russia wanted Trump because they knew that he'd do their bidding because he never reacts like a normal person would.

Playing him like a fiddle. Medvedev calls him incompetent, which is the exact same thing as saying to Trump "You are a small-dicked boy who knows deep inside that you totally suck but never did the adult work of figuring out your shit", and Trump will strike back, which is exactly what they want. There is no bait at all, no matter how small or trivial and now matter how huge and obvious the hook to which it is attached, that Trump won't bite on, and bite on hard.

And the more they get him caught up in dealing with bullshit, the more Russia can become the superpower of the world.

These thoughts are clearer in my head than I wrote them here, but hopefully they are intelligible enough to get the point across.

[Gothmog]

27. The russians are catching on as to what an idiot trump is

[Volaris]

28. Transferring executive powers to Congress...

My ass. That's a dare to Trump to act like a fucking Tyrant (because putins lapdog just called him Congress' bitch). And trump will do it because he's an idiot, you mark my words...

[MiddleClass]

32. One can only hope

[RKP5637]

30. tRump's walking on shaky pilings! n/t

[orangecrush]

35. Well, that's that

If Putin drops Trump, it's game over for Benedict Donald.

[Frustratedlady]

36. Trump was liquidated during that episode with the prostitute(s), right?

Seriously, I don't trust anything the Russians throw at us in this regard. This could all be show or a warning to Trump to straighten up and fly right. I think they have their claws in too far to give up that easily unless they have another fish on the hook like Pence.

[onetexan]

81. could also mean now that lifting sanctions aren't possible

that agent orange is no longer useful to them.

[geek tragedy]

37. man, that's industrial strength trolling. nt

[ButSeeYa]

38. Hmmm...now that Trump signed the Sanctions bill into law...

Russia may be ready to pounce.

[Grammy23]

39. Wonder what the Short Fingered Vulgarian thinks about his pal, Putin, now?

Remember when it blew his skirt up that Putin said he was "brilliant"? Only turned out Putin didn't mean what tRump thought he meant.

These latest comments might make our Dear Leader toss his cookies.

Expect even more erratic behavior from tRump while he scrambles around the White House figuring out what the holy hell he needs to do now. Who to blame? Who to blame?

[Skittles]

42. HAHAHAHAHA, they underestimated the incompetence of Trump

after spending all that time and money helping to get him installed into the White House, they're not going to get any payoff.......

[Boomerproud]

44. trumps reluctance to sign the bill is a slap in the face of every American citizen who cherishes

the most important right of all-the right to vote (cleanly and fairly) and also a big middle finger to all the men and women who fought and died to preserve that right. The Russian reaction is for Russian consumption, as other posters have said, and I agree with that. I only hope that everyone (the media and Congress) keeps a very close eye on whether trump upholds the law.

[ProudLib72]

47. Will Faux Nooze finally have to admit that Russia is our enemy?

Will tRump finally admit it? Millions of his supporters are going to need ACA to treat their whiplash.

[PatSeg]

50. I was pretty sure that Putin

would drop Trump when he no longer served a purpose for him. There is no real loyalty in the Kremlin, much like in today's White House.

[Motley13]

51. Finally, someone with clear thinking

[octoberlib]

53. The use of the word liquidated would make me nervous if I was Trump.

The Russians are experts in the art of liquidation.

[Ilsa]

66. They even "liquidate" Russians in the United States. nt

[Xolodno]

55. Interesting that Medvedev suddenly speaks out....

He usually remains in the background. Why not Putin?

Going to guess Putin knows he looks too close to Dump so his comments won't appear serious.

This could be a sign that Russia is done with him. Then again, they should be. They got everything they wanted and then some. The US is not going to re-emerge from the international damage for some time. And we will be hampered down at the same time, making sure something like this doesn't happen again. A door was left open and they walked in.

Putin will negotiate directly with the EU, treat it as an equal partner and without US influence. Then legitimize the Crimea Annexation and insure eastern Ukraine will have significant autonomy....and will never join NATO or EU unless Russia happens to.

[Igel]

60. Not really.

A quick search showed that he was in the far east on 8/1/17, at the Novobureisk hydroelectric plant. Then he was going to do some fishing. As of 8/4 he'll "work" in Buryatia, and he's going to be in Abkhazia on 8/8.

It's vacation time.

[moondust]

58. "liquidated" *may* be a sensational translation.

I don't think Medvedev speaks English and I don't know what Russian word he used.

At any rate, the "establishment" won't get rid of TheRump until they've milked him for all he's worth in terms of tax cuts, deregulation, and other stuff that drives up the stock markets.

[VMA131Marine]

61. Maybe now we'll find out how much money

Trump owes the Russians.

[lindysalsagal]

67. Ok that's gonna leave a mark.

FRump knows they can get to him here at home.

[Mr. Ected]

68. I have a feeling that Russia is about to leak something very damning to a Trump family member

I don't think they'd start with a bombshell on Trump himself. They'll prefer to harm a family member, Ivanka or Jr., to let Trump know they have him by the balls, and to hurt him deeply.

Putin set a trap, and the Trump family will do anything for another chunk of cheese.

[Alice11111]

82. I was thinking that too...warning him by destroying a family

member, figuratively, probably.
Geez, we might get in a war over Ivanka or Eric, but he seems to have deliberately been kept out of the loop. He goes off in interviews about how they got their credit from the Russian banks, evidently with the objective of saying there was no conflicts with their loans, because they weren't even US. Sharp kid.

Yes, Putin set up a win-win, until the overkill and unexpected, grandiose incompetence and bragging of the Trump clan damaged his plan.

[adigal]

71. So the Russians are trolling Trump? On twitter, I read Trump talked to Putin

Before he signed the sanction bill.
We live in interesting times.

[donco]

77. I wonder how

rubber padding/wallpaper would look in the oval office?

[Motownman78]

78. Sorry Pootie-Poot

Our Congressmen and women are not scared of being arrested or killed if they defy the "President".

[Alice11111]

85. Good thread. Thanks

[DetlefK]

86. My, that establishment-lapdog surely knows some big words.

[HAB911]

88. US establishment, What's taking so damn long?!

[D23MIURG23]

90. Hopefully "liquidated" doesn't mean they will try to bump him off.

I want Trump to live a long ignonimous life when this is over, far from the attention he craves.

Of course, if they want to screw him over, they could probably do it with anonymous tips to journalists and maybe law enforcement.