The White House is a Dump Because A Black Family Lived There.

[VermontKevin]

That is what President Trump means. It's a dump because the family living space was lived in by Black people.

Let me tell you a little story. The first house my wife and I bought was in a section of NYC that was slowly turning into a gentrified neighborhood. We bought our home from a very nice couple with three kids who were moving to the Midwest because he got a job editing a major paper out there. We made a lot of New Yorker jokes, and moved in and began to paint. And paint, and paint.

My now deceased mother-in-law visits. She stays for three weeks and about midway, at dinner, she announces:

"You never told me they were Black!" I assumed she was having a stroke and went for the phone.

"The family was Black! Did you have the place cleaned before you moved in? They have hairs that go everywhere!"

I and my wife sat at the table, stunned. Then she told the kids to go upstairs and watch tv.

"They smell!"

My wife told her to shut up, but I really could not say anything. I should have. I did discuss it with my kids after she left but I know I didn't do the right thing at the time.

My mother in law told the entire family we lived "in a slum." In a house "that Black people moved out of." The other racists in the family knew what she meant. Another family member told me to make sure to change the toilet seats.

That's what a racist like Donald Trump means when he talks about the White House being a "dump." Fuck anyone who voted for him, and anyone who helped.

[dalton99a]

1. The Trumps are nothing but racist trash who live on Fifth Avenue

[VermontKevin]

3. At our expense.

[RKP5637]

28. It's very true. Take away their money and what would be left! n/t

[LiberalArkie]

43. A family who owes millions to the Russians.

[RKP5637]

46. Yep! n/t

[LiberalArkie]

50. Calling John Wick... Calling John Wick..

[Big_K]

86. Yeah. I think he's back.

[LiberalArkie]

90. He maybe be the only one who can save the Trumpsters et al. That is if he decides to help them

which I doubt. I think him and the Accountant have too many morals for that job.

[haveahart]

75. An ignorant head of a privileged and ignorant family who would never have been able to make it

otherwise. They made it through corruption, racism, and white skin from the beginning.

[RKP5637]

76. Yep! I wonder if many of his supporters understand this, or is this want they want in a president

of the US.

[DBoon]

79. Trump is the pinnacle of white privilege.

No matter how detestable and useless you are as a human being inherited privilege wins out

[Angry Dragon]

98. Trump's grandfather was a pimp .......... runs in the blood

[oberliner]

2. That is ridiculous

And not what he means at all.

[VermontKevin]

4. Really? Tell us what Trump thinks of living in taxpayer-funded housing

recently decorated and vacated by a Black family.

[oberliner]

5. He is used to insane opulance

He also likes bragging to his rich friends.

So, in his mind, the properties he owns are the most luxurious in the world, and The White House is "a dump" in comparison.

That's where I think he was going with those comments.

[EarnestPutz]

19. That was my first impression.

The speculation about the Obama family having just
left was a surprise to me. Donald is a racist, but an
arrogant asshole first and foremost. Just look at his
penthouse decor and one can see that he wouldn't be
impressed with The White House, and bragging to his
friends is completely in character.

[Purveyor]

92. I hate the color gold and when I had my.mom and sister visit NYC, we visited the

Trump Tower. Every damned thing was "gold color". This was 1996.

BTW, the Trump casino at AC equally sucked if not more. Just had the feeling of a dying enterprise, which it was.

AC was a sad place in itself. Deteriorating neighborhoods within 3 blocks of the casino district.

Hope it has changed since then but have no desire to go see...

[maddiemom]

54. I agree. Racist pig 'though he may be, i don't think that was what he had in mind.

[VermontKevin]

66. Read the allegations in the Steele dossier.

[maddiemom]

67. In THIS particular case.

[Eliot Rosewater]

70. That is a part of why he said it for sure. First and foremost Donald Trump

is a narcissist, so his instant reaction is "i have gold toilets, WH doesnt, I earn the money for those toilets by stealing from middle class Americans, by the way"

His second reaction almost simultaneous with that is "I hate black people, they put their coodies all of the place here and they are icky"

Donald trump doesnt belong sweeping the floors there, let alone living there.

BTW, ignore those people out there who downplay trump's overt racism, if you can. It is hard to do though, I get it. I know I cant. They REALLY piss me off.

FOR SURE
FOR SURE
FOR SURE
FOR SURE
FOR SURE

[whathehell]

78. There's no "for sure" about it...We're not fact-free Republicans

who just make things up. Seriously...It's important to respect facts and keep them straight.

[TheBlackAdder]

81. He does not live in insane opulance. He's white trash, living white trash dictator chic fantasies.

[oberliner]

82. This is what I mean

?w=960

[TheBlackAdder]

83. Tacky and tasteless. Scots & Brits like silver. He has the taste of Putin, Erdogan and Qaddafi.

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.

Silver or gold, it's gauche to use either in excess.

It reinforces his base intellect.

.

[LanternWaste]

96. Distinguishing opulence from tacky seems outside your experience.

Distinguishing the opulent from the merely tacky seems outside your experience. Good luck.

[whathehell]

94. Why would "trash" have a color?

In terms of character, "trash" comes in all colors and all income levels.

[pansypoo53219]

84. FAUX opulence. louis XIV SUN king. he is the mcmansion hell of taste.

TACKY TACKY TACKY. but he still is a pigs ear. insulting pigs. i hear the ear is tasty. hmm. CASINO taste. bells & whistles.

[loyalsister]

88. That's how I read it

Also another way of bragging. "I live in extremely in such luxury. The white house doesn't even come close to the kind of luxury I'm used to."

[TheDebbieDee]

6. So what do u think Trump means

By calling the WH a dump?

Sorry. Meant to reply to Oberliner...

[oberliner]

7. He means he is so rich that the places he lived in/owns make the White House seem like a dump

In comparison to the luxury and opulence of his own properties.

(He was saying this to his wealthy "friends" who also live in places that are similar)

[RKP5637]

35. His remark was disgusting no matter for what reason entered his cluttered head. He

trashed everyone in the US. The WH is a historic place and a major focal point in American history. If he doesn't like it he should just get out, in fact better resign. I'm so tired of this asshole running around blabbering his mouth off. He's a disgusting POS and brings the US down every chance he gets.

[Lochloosa]

39. That is the important point. By calling the White House a "dump" he insulted everyone in the US.

Fuck him. I don't care why he did it. It shows the level of class he has by doing it.

[heaven05]

55. Oh, you read his mind and prez bannon too I assume

and your answer is to be taken to the bank as ultimate truth......okay I'm so glad you explained how the racist in chief really thinks....GOD!!!! I never would have known what he meant I really have tried to stay away from the noise I have found here since BS and the boy-potus became BIG news, but I couldn't today

[Eliot Rosewater]

71. You think that is bad, over at Fox, he didnt say it was a dump, at all

he said

"The White House is a lump"

or was it mump

or was it pump

or was it rump

maybe it was zump? not a word

Anyway, half the country doesnt believe he said it or if he did they know why he said it, those BLAH people lived there!

[yardwork]

15. How do you know what Trump means?

Trump is racist. He and his father lost lawsuits in the 1970s because their housing policies were so racist.

I have heard exactly the same kind of talk as the OP relates. Trump probably does feel that way.

[oberliner]

20. Common sense

Trump lives and stays in opulent places. He brags about how his properties are the most luxurious in the world. Relative to them, it makes sense that he would call the White House "a dump" to his rich friends.

Do you honestly think it's more reasonable to conclude that he called The White House "a dump" because of the Obama family having lived there? That seems like a pretty ridiculous stretch, regardless of how racist he might be.

[VermontKevin]

33. Read the Steele dossier and put that in perspective.

[fleur-de-lisa]

89. I agree. That whole 'hookers-peeing-on-the-bed-the-Obamas-slept-in'

part explains Cheetolini's "dump" statement quite succinctly.

[VermontKevin]

91. It does. I shudder to think what that trash has done to the WH

[heaven05]

59. your "common sense"

those who live in the real ameriKKKa, now, today, Aug 3, 2017, know better. Period. You may be right...but given he and prez bannon's track record, NO!!!!!!!!!!!! I really don't think so. Anyone with common sense, in these EXTREMELY racist times, knows better. But you need your 'comfort bubble', have at it...

[Honeycombe8]

45. I agree. There's no indication that's what he meant at all. He meant...

it's not gilded enough or nice enuf, compared to what HE is used to (HE, being so far above the rest, and a very rich man, as he keeps reminding everyone).

[BannonsLiver]

60. More likely it's both

What about Trump says he wouldn't be totally freaked out by using a space occupied by black people for 8 years?

Answer: Nothing.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

62. +1

It's both. He's shown time and time again that he's a racist asshole. And he's used to everything being covered in tacky gold and looking like crap.

He's been trying to dismantle everything about President Obama's two terms. Every law, every EO, everything he can.

The fact that he has to live in a place that President Obama lived for eight years must piss him off to no end.

[LanternWaste]

95. The power of absolute inference is a heavy burden indeed for the closed mind to bear.

The power of absolute inference is a heavy burden indeed for the closed mind to bear.

[Weekend Warrior]

99. I will admit that I had to think about it for a minute.

Thanks for the thought. Well placed.

[pnwmom]

103. Oh, are you a mind reader? How can you be so sure he's not appealing to racism

with that comment -- and/or a racist himself?

[WinkyDink]

8. Trump likes Golden Beds! Gilded sofas! Stuffed dead endangered species! Samovars!

[burnbaby]

9. When the bush's

Moved in after the Clinton's the same thing was said. They even accused the Clinton's of stealing.

[TheDebbieDee]

11. I remember that! There were articles abt missing

Historical pieces and even the "W"s being removed from keyboards! Ha!

[burnbaby]

17. Lol I remember the w thing nt

[yardwork]

16. Not the same thing. The Bushes didn't call the White House a dump.

[Dustlawyer]

10. I wonder what they would have said to me about marrying a black woman!

What words of caution would they have said? If they said never get a black woman's hair wet it would have been great advice, but somehow I get the feeling that like most racists, they do not have a clue about black people and that is the problem. Being separated from each other by neighborhoods, schools etc., encourages racism. When two races get to live and intermingle what they will learn is that they are not so different after all. Aside form some physical and cultural differences, we all want the same things, have the same feelings.

It is like Mitt Romney not knowing about poor and middle class people. He goes to a McDonalds trying to look like an average American and then comments on how neat the little cardboard box is that his hamburger came in, turning it over in his hands fascinated. He totally defeated his purpose because he demonstrated that he did not have a clue how regular Americans live. How could someone like that be able to understand us and lead us? It is the same with racists, they spread BS among themselves about what minorities are like but have no real concept of it.

[VermontKevin]

27. My brother married a black woman. It was his second marriage.

Some members of my family just don't even consider him married to his second wife. More like he abandoned his legal first wife and went to move in with his _______.

[Eliot Rosewater]

72. Not to worry, since some people .... .... oops, cant talk about that

pretty soon interracial marriage will be illegal again anyways.

[CakeGrrl]

93. My guess, if I may, as to your family members' attitudes

is that his second wife isn't really a 'person' to them - at some level, it's ingrained in the minds of racists that black people are inferior, lesser, don't quite count as real people.

That makes sense based on the OP's example - was the house sterilized against - let's be real - 'n*gger germs'? That's the underlying attitude there. No appeal to the logic of the reality of caucasian germs and diseases - and the same need to disinfect any house occupied by ANY human - will work. The racist programming is deep.

[VermontKevin]

97. I think that describes a lot of my family. Irish Catholic and stuck to themselves.

[maddiemom]

56. AND, calling Obama black (granted Michelle is more "traditionally" black)

shows how little we've progressed since the "one drop of black blood" days. Obama is black, even though his mother was white and he was raised by grandparents. Terms like "mulatto" have a negative, old-fashioned connotation now, and we really have no accepted term for "mixed racial," more awkward to use than black or white. Therefore, Obama is black, period.

[MoonRiver]

12. Bingo! Never thought about that but I'm sure you are correct.

[kentuck]

13. Well, Donald, if the White House is not good enough for you...

...leave.

Resign.

Get the hell out of our House.

[Hokie]

14. I think you nailed it

I have a racist brother who thinks that way.

[Catmusicfan]

18. I see what you are saying you may be right but

Have you seen pictures of Trump's residence? Ever see pics of Mar-la-go or how ever that place is spelled. The interior of his places is covered in gold. Fixtures & walls. Marble floors.

You are right he isn't thrilled that the Obamas lived their before him but he also has this really crazy taste.

[Girard442]

22. Dictator chic.

God forbid the man should decorate the White House to his tastes (and I use the word loosely.)

[Amimnoch]

31. "Dictator chic." Oh, I'm sooo using that from now on!

Thanks for the great laugh

[maddiemom]

57. GREAT term!

[maddiemom]

58. Trump didn't name it.

That's the only thing I'll ever defend him over.

[Girard442]

21. The man is a walking dog whistle.

[VermontKevin]

23. Yes, he is.

[Nitram]

26. I think he's a walking talking racist. He is never subtle enough for a dog whistle.

[Nitram]

24. Wow! Thanks for sharing your story of True Racism. Those who have never experienced it

firsthand cannot imagine how vile it truly is. But you did the right thing to let your wife handle it and then speak to the kids later. She's your mother-in-law, and you did the right thing.

[VermontKevin]

32. I think I should have confronted her then and there. But honestly I was

just surprised. It took me a bit to understand what the heck she was talking about.

[Nitram]

36. I understand. More than once I'ver been so surprised and flabergasted by what

someone has said that absolutely no words come. Until later. But if I had spoken at the time,without thinking, it could have caused irreversible damage to the family. It is hard to calmly tell someone how very very wrong they are. The natural reaction is an explosion of emotion.

[Amimnoch]

25. It's just not gaudy and nuevo riche enough for his taste

This is the Whitehouse he envisions:


Understated class and historical elegance isn't his niche.

My complete sympathy for your family. How awful. I'm soooo thankful that I was raised by 60's hippies who raised me to love the person, and embrace differences, not fear them.

[dlk]

29. The "R" Stands for Racist

[Shell_Seas]

30. Fuck Donal Trump

[irisblue]

63. yeah, what you said

[madokie]

34. With a splintery two by four

if you get my drift

[bobbieinok]

37. I honestly thought

That if a GOPer won, tney would fumigate the entire building and get new furniture, esp mattresses. Never thought of 'need' to replace toilet seats though!

[hunter]

110. I'm certain Trump did replace it all, most especially the toilet seats he tweets from.

Didn't one of his TV shows, fix up an old Atlantic City hotel or you're fired episode, go that way?

(Shit, don't even ask me how I remember this... I'm sure I was being held against my will at the time. In my life it happens.)

[barbtries]

38. that kind of ignorant hatefulness is just...

she caught you flat footed. that happened to me during a conversation with a co-worker during election season. she's a lifelong, die hard republican and she gish galloped me, dominating the conversation. and she said, "we all want the truly deserving...blah blah blah."

it haunts me to this day that i didn't just say, "Please define truly deserving." but i didn't. i harbored from that moment on to this day hostile feelings toward her, but also guilt toward myself because i just let her talk.

[GulfCoast66]

40. It is now occupied by the worst type of white trash

A term I do not use lightly.

[gordianot]

41. I would guess Jackie Kennedy would have straightened out this orange toad.

The history of that house is as sacred as any symbol this nation can muster. The mere thought this assault came from a tasteless sober clown on a golf course is infuriating.

[Guilded Lilly]

42. The Cretin is a walking, talking, nose sniffing "dump"...

His crass, emperial, self-aggrandizing, gold-plated elitism includes hideous, thug racism most certainly. And I imagine he will never get over the superior wit, intelligence, class and integrity of Barack Obama. Or anyone of any race who so easily and effortlessly bests him in every human category.

My take was that he thinks he is far above the social, economical and historical status of a public "house" that so many others "had" to live in - and not stamp their name across in guilded letters. I'm sure it pains him to pass through the portals of someplace so tacky.

Accordingly, I hope the American people are very soon able to throw him out of their beloved and cherished "dump" and into a nicely padded, tacky gold-plated cell, with his own name plate and number above the lock- which is far more than he deserves.

[yankeepants]

44. It's old. He dosen't understand History.

Just look at his ridiculous wife and his stupid hair.

[Gothmog]

47. K&R

[MineralMan]

48. Trump wants to live in a castle and wear a crown.

Anything less is just wrong in his addled mind.

[IronLionZion]

49. It's disgusting because people should know better by now

but they just won't accept it.

People still associate the worst of their imaginations to minorities: disease, crime, drugs, poverty, filth, etc. Even with a family as educated, classy, and wonderful as the Obamas.

If the white house is a dump then maybe Trump should live elsewhere.

[leftstreet]

51. I wish I hadn't read this n/t

[kag]

52. I wonder if he knows that the White House was BUILT by black people.

Probably not.

In fact those days of slavery are probably the "great" days he wants to take this country back to.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

53. When we were househunting in a

suburb of Kansas City, MO, in 1990, the one I liked best was occupied by a black family. I took that to mean the neighborhood was mixed, and happily bought it. To my distress, I later figured out that we'd bought the ONLY black-owned home anywhere around. I actually felt bad about that. In fairness, the family was moving to another city because of a job change, but I was not crazy about having turned the neighborhood lily-white. For years I never saw anyone of color at the grocery store or the local shopping mall, but fortunately that changed over the years.

[The Polack MSgt]

61. Why on earth are there vehement posts defending 45's statement as not racist?

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According to the Steele Dossier, he paid 2 women to piss on the bed that the Obama's slept in while he watched.

Despite how intentionally weak and easy to deny anti-discrimination laws are, he was found guilty twice.

He got his political foothold fronting the birther movement.

He has been consistent in his support for white supremacist policies and people.

But several posters on DU immediately jump to defend his remarks as not racist. Of course they do.

They do that because calling anything racist on DU or any where else has to be shut down.

Not even blatantly racist statements on twitter out in the open for all to see can be labeled as racist.

Ya see in the opinion of the majority of white Americans the only racial problem in America is that "Some People" keep accusing others of being racist. That is the issue that gravels their ass. Not the ACTUAL PROVEN RACISM of the person accused - nope the accusation is the issue.

It's just the current generation of "those people should know their place and shut up."

[VermontKevin]

65. The Steele dossier is what I thought of and referred to upthread.

So far I've gotten no answer on that one.

[ismnotwasm]

64. K&R

[erpowers]

68. Trying To Promote His Wealth

I think Trump was actually trying to promote his wealth. He was trying to say that he is so wealthy that and has such nice homes that the White House is a dump to him. Can you imagine how wealthy someone would have to be in order to view the White House as a dump?

Throughout his adult life, Trump has been trying to convince people he is extremely wealthy. Either right before he was elected, or shortly after, Trump was making suggestions that he might keep his personal plane because he viewed it has far better than Air Force One. Many people knew that in truth Trump's plane was no match for Air Force one; however, some in the media indulged Trump and questioned whether Trump's private plane was better than Air Force One. There was actually a news segment, on CBS This Morning, that started by questioning whether Trump would be taking a step down by giving up his plane in order to ride on Air Force One. During the segment it was reported that Air Force One was bigger, could carry more people, and was more technologically advanced than Trump's private plane.

I think the dump comment was another attempt by Trump to promote the idea that he is very wealthy. I think he was also trying pretend that his is making a major sacrifice by being President. He is trying to claim that he gave up a massive salary and multiple palatial mansions all for the good of the American people.

[moondust]

69. Possible if not probable.

The other thing is that it's just low-grade gubment quarters doncha know. He's a compensatory narcissist with a God complex who has no idea what he is doing so he compensates by pretending to be a supreme being from the supreme business world stooping to do the simple commoners' work of running the government.

All that glitters is gold in Dumpworld.

[haveahart]

73. It just isn't gawdy enough for his taste. And a black family lived there for 8 years.

[Azathoth]

74. Normally I'm hesitant to read racism into things like this, but given his father's history

of housing discrimination at his properties, I'd say you are probably onto something. The family's own business practices make this a very plausible dog whistle.

[whathehell]

77. This is an "assumption" of yours, not a fact -- Please don't state it as fact.

You have no evidence whatsoever of this being his meaning. ..
Aren't the things he says and does bad enough -- Why make things up?
.
Seriously, it's fine If you want to post your opinions or imaginings, but you must prefaces them with "I think" or "I believe" . You have no right to post them as confirmed fact.

[Wolf Frankula]

80. The White House is a dump because a Rump lives there.

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Everywhere that Rump goes he leaves a dump.

Wolf

[tclambert]

85. Do you suppose Trump had the White House toilet seats changed?

That seems like a Trump amount of racism.

[George II]

87. What's sad was my mother, who was one of the earliest "progressives" probably before...

...the word was ever used. She worked tirelessly for human rights for ALL Americans - black, Hispanic, LGBT, prisoners returning to society, etc. She march down Fifth Avenue when she was in her 80s. But her age got to her late in life.

In 2008, I asked her who she was going to vote for. She said she wasn't sure but it wasn't going to be Obama. I asked why, she said "I can't vote for a Black man for President"! I was floored, and sad. But by that time she was so bad that she thought I was older than her.

Gratefully, we all knew she wasn't racist, just suffering from advanced dementia.

[zentrum]

100. OMG. You're right.

What a pig he is.

[ThoughtCriminal]

101. It's a clear "Dog Whistle" for his base

Not very clever though.

[alterfurz]

102. "If he thinks the White House is a dump...

...he's really gonna hate the Big House." -- Twitter

[iluvtennis]

106. Ding, ding, ding - agree

[CrispyQ]

104. "They have hairs that go everywhere!"

Good grief. She should visit this white woman's house. Even though I wear my long hair in a French twist most of the time, it's everywhere! It wraps around the vacuum roller to the point I have to cut it out with a razor every six weeks.

[VermontKevin]

107. I use a seam ripper. Works like a charm.

[librechik]

105. I felt that.

how evil is this subhuman freak???

[bottomofthehill]

108. Angry he has to live in public housing

What a duche

[SergeStorms]

109. There is simply......

not enough gold covering everything there. Trump's place in NYC looks like a poor man's vision of what a rich man's house should look like. Gold covering everything, over-sized ostentatious chandeliers, nothing even remotely tasteful. It's a monument to conspicuous consumption. It's exactly how poor white trash would decorate if they won the lottery. That's where Trump's tastes lie, and that's why the White House doesn't live up to his "standards" (as if Trump has standards about ANYTHING!).

[Rhiannon12866]

111. My mother was just the opposite - she really liked Obama, until she found out he was a Democrat