Who would you rather have in the senate, Bob Casey or Rick Santorum?

[Eliot Rosewater]

Bob Casey on every social issue is as progressive as there can be, except choice. On that one issue is full hard right. The reason Casey is the perfect example is because he was running against Santorum, and he won.

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I am using quotes because I didnt say this, a friend did. I did not know this or remember it, but it is the perfect example of how the American two party system works and how to use it to your benefit and control.


I could list Bob Casey on the issues, but I shouldn't have to, as this person said, they are as liberal as can be but on abortion, which meant the choice was him or Santorum.

period - in the REAL world that was the choice

[Weekend Warrior]

1. Casey by far.

And he isn't even close to "liberal as can be".

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Well, uh

LGBT equality
Casey was a co-sponsor of and voted for the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010.[41][42]

Casey was a co-sponsor of and voted for the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act.

Casey is a co-sponsor of S. 1584 (Employment Non-Discrimination Act).[43]

Casey has been a longtime supporter of civil unions and as of April 2013, he announced his support of same-sex marriage.[44][45]

Casey on several occasions supported same sex partners adopting children,[46][47] and specifically expressed his opposition to legislation that would prohibit adoption by same-sex couples.[48]

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. and

Education
According to the candidates' questionnaire, Casey opposes school vouchers.[47]

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. and

Casey opposes drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Instead, he supports increased federal investment in hybrid and alternative fuel technology

[Eliot Rosewater]

5. and

Casey voted for the confirmation of both Sonia Sotomayor[56] and Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court of the United States.[57]

[Weekend Warrior]

9. None of that makes him as "liberal as can be". nt.

[Eliot Rosewater]

11. The person said outside of the choice issue, they were, and I assume this person

meant in relation to other senators.

Is he as liberal as me? Hell no, I am a Nordic Socialist, but I dont think that was the point.

[Weekend Warrior]

13. "I assume this person meant in relation to other senators."

Not as "liberal as can be" when compared to other senators on our side.

[Eliot Rosewater]

8. and

Casey's website reports he has also criticized what he views as "draconian cuts to Medicare and Medicaid,"

[Weekend Warrior]

10. Still haven't made him as "liberal as can be".

Probably because he isn't.

[blue neen]

12. So, you didn't answer the question in the OP.

Casey or Santorum?

[Weekend Warrior]

14. I didn't?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029402453#post1

[blue neen]

15. I guess you did.

Sorry about that!

[Weekend Warrior]

16. All good.

That was the easy part for me. It would be Casey all the way.

[blue neen]

17. I've met him several times, worked on his campaign.

Senator Casey is a genuinely nice man, a rare thing for politics these days.

[Weekend Warrior]

29. That's really nice to hear.

I'm not slamming him. I take issue with some of his positions. He is on the side I'm on more often than not.

[DeminPennswoods]

46. I met him, too

and had a short chat. He listened to what I had to say and then asked a relevent question. He has a grip like a vice as well when shaking hands.

[still_one]

27. Here is Bob Casey "On the Issues", and they rate him as a liberal populist

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Bob_Casey.htm

[Weekend Warrior]

30. That's where I went for some my info.

Some I was already aware of. I read his positions.

[blue neen]

6. I will proudly vote for Senator Casey next fall.

Apparently Lou Barletta (R-PA-11) has thrown his hat into the ring. Barletta is a big Donald Trump supporter.

[Expecting Rain]

7. Casey.

No contest.

[meow2u3]

18. Bob Casey, hands down!

Casey goes out of his way to respond to the needs of his constituents, whereas Santorum is too busy licking the boots of corporations and his rich paymasters.

[Eliot Rosewater]

19. Thanks for responding. I havent seen any of the purity folks chime in yet.

Some of whom are well meaning, for sure.

I am hoping some will see this and a light will go off.

[Freddie]

20. Casey is a great example of a pro-life Democrat

He supports Planned Parenthood because they *prevent abortions*. He is personally opposed to abortion due to his Catholic faith, but AFAIK he has never sponsored or voted for any legislation that would outlaw the procedure. If we get pro-life Dems like him and Joe Biden and Tim Kaine, I'd happily support them. (His father, the late Gov. Casey, was another story.)

[Eliot Rosewater]

21. Thank you for helping make the point.

As I am not posting this to get into an argument with one of those folks who have an agenda that is very obvious to me, I am doing it to appeal to well meaning liberals who can be swayed.

[boston bean]

42. That is pro choice!

[femmocrat]

22. Bob Casey has been a real fighter for Medicaid and the ACA.

The day he defeated Sanctimonious Rick was one of the happiest days of my life.

I am proud that he represents PA. Compare him to that worthless empty suit, Toomey! There is no comparison!

[Eliot Rosewater]

23. Thank you, I learn more and more about him every day.

[MyOwnPeace]

38. Toomey is NOT an empty suit..........

Those pockets are filled with Wall Street and Corporate money!

[femmocrat]

48. Definitely.

He is a worthless senator though. He only shows up at election time. Otherwise, he is in hiding.

[ProudLib72]

24. Fine, I'll chime in. Casey

He supports contraception including the morning after pill and abortion in cases of rape or incest.

Santorum is less desirable than a bag of stale farts.

[leftstreet]

25. Bad example. Casey is shifting left to save his seat

PA-Sen: Bob Casey (D), "Being pro-life doesn't mean defunding Planned Parenthood"

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/8/1670025/-PA-Sen-Bob-Casey-D-Being-pro-life-doesn-t-mean-defunding-Planned-Parenthood

Leading up to this year’s Convention, we spoke to the media on the fraud that was presented to the American people, that Bob Casey, Jr. is pro-life.

The truth is that Casey, Jr. has a NARAL voting record of 65 percent but considers himself pro-life. We stated that if a Democrat voted with the National Rifle Association two out of every three times, no one in his right mind would call that person an advocate of gun control. So why is Casey, Jr. considered pro-life? The Pennsylvania senator can mouth the virtues of pro-life all he wants, but at the end of the day what really matters is his voting record.

http://www.catholicleague.org/bob-casey-mislabeled-as-pro-life/

He's taking a lot of flack for disappointing the anti-choice nutters who thought he'd push through their legislation, so he's not a good example of an anti-choice Democrat

[Eliot Rosewater]

34. NO example would work for you I bet.

[mcar]

26. Casey, of course

He's been a good Democratic senator for PA.

[Warpy]

28. Would you rather be drowned or shot?

Casey's great for men.

He votes the RCC religious line, bad for women.

I would not vote for him. Or Santorum. It's just not going to happen, ever, no matter how many temper tantrums are thrown on DU.

[blue neen]

37. No temper tantrum here.

Just a reminder that this is PA, a relatively conservative state, except for Pittsburgh and Philly.

Abstaining on voting here could help put someone like Trump lover, Lou Barletta in the Senate. No, thanks.
Read on:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/07/trumps-political-godfather-is-reportedly-running-for-senate/

Thanks for your time.

[MyOwnPeace]

39. "I would not vote for him".............

and thanks to all of those Dems that said the same about Hillary, look what we have now............

[Warpy]

40. False equivalency and YOU KNOW IT

Shameful post.

[MyOwnPeace]

41. According to YOU.............

but it is NOT a "false equivalency" - and YOU know it.

Shameful response.

[Eliot Rosewater]

50. Yeah, I fucking dont get it, I truly dont.

You see we are on the precipice of possibly world fucking war, America is done for good, that much is clear, and STILL we get this attitude from people who claim to be liberals.

I will keep trying to appeal to them, because if they dont vote for the Dems, we die.

[Motley13]

31. I have no idea who Casey is, I will ck him out, but Rick is one of the worst

Good grief, he brought his dead baby home to meet the other children, what could possibly be more disgusting than that?

[DefenseLawyer]

32. I would demand that Ted Kennedy come back from the dead and move to Philadelphia

Otherwise I wouldn't vote!

[iamateacher]

33. Casey is my Senator

I am pro-choice, but I will proudly vote for him again.

[frazzled]

35. Use your leverage, folks

Some time ago, the town in which I lived got redistricted on the state level, and my half of our uber-liberal town was slated to get a new state rep. from a neighboring Democratic, but far more conservative, town. The "Progressive Democrats" group on which I served was stymied as whether to endorse this guy for re-election or simply withhold any endorsement. They were leaning toward not endorsing.

I told them that we shouldn't just sit as judge and jury before talking to him, but rather get smart and use our leverage to get him to accede to our positions (he was running a tight race against a Republican). He was going to need the votes of this new bloc of constituents if he wanted to get elected. So we invited him to an interview. One of our big questions was about his personal views on abortion. He was a devout Catholic (as were most of his old remaining constituents), and personally opposed. He got the message, and stated unequivocally that he would never vote for any bill that would take away a woman's right to choose. He also committed to support marriage equality, which existed nowhere in the nation at that time but was a contentious issue in the Statehouse, which was about to pass a constitutional amendment against it. After our endorsement, he held true and worked hard to oppose the amendment, which would have banned marriage equality. Our state became the first in the nation to permit gay marriage.

I moved after that, but I see he is still the state representative after all these years, and doing a pretty good job of it, I believe. You have to remember that politicians will vote the way their constituents want them to, especially if they need your votes to win. But you have to be proactive: organize, and make your endorsement or votes contingent on promises to respect your positions. It works.

Many excellent senators come to mind who were personally opposed to abortion but always voted to preserve a woman's right to choose.

[Gothmog]

36. Casey

[nkpolitics1212]

43. Bob Casey is an ally to the LGBT community unlike Rick Santorum.

[Blue_true]

44. Is that a question? Bob Casey. nt

[DeminPennswoods]

45. The Caseys believe in the Catholic Social Teachings

They don't believe in abortion or the death penalty. Gov Casey essentially put executions on hold during his 8 years in office. They are "pro-life" from conception to death. They don't just stop caring after a new life enters the world.

Sen Casey is not his dad. He's a lot more liberal.

[Mr. Ected]

47. Frankly, I'm shocked so few DU'ers understood the intent of this post

Basically, a challenge to the purists to see if a "tainted" Democrat who fails the pro-choice litmus test is a better candidate than the whackjob Republican that ran against him. Of course he is, but that's not the point. Good post.

[Eliot Rosewater]

49. Thanks.

Jim Jefferies , who I love to watch and enjoy, on his show last night (Comedy Central) didnt get it either and that saddened me.

But I can promise you if I could explain it to him in detail he would.

My hope is people who read this will stop and think for a minute, even if they dont admit to us here that this makes sense, they might still follow the idea and act on it.

We really dont survive, literally, otherwise.

[TEB]

51. Casey