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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 10:55 AM Aug 2017

Dinesh DSouza: "Hitler got his ideas from the Democrats!"

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/08/01/fox-guest-dinesh-d-souza-hitler-took-three-very-destructive-genocidal-ideas-democratic-party/217465

"Well, the book uncovers a sort of secret history between fascism and the Democratic Party and the left. This is important because, as you know, fascism is now the card that is played by the left against [President Donald] Trump. Trump is a fascist, Republicans are the party of fascism. I show that the opposite is true. Fascism has always been on the left. I also point out three ideas that Hitler got, very destructive, genocidal ideas from the Democratic Party."





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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Germany has just suffered a brutal, humiliating defeat in WWI.
Communism is threatening the european way-of-life.
Historical economic crises are crushing the german economy in 1923 and 1929.
Pseudo-darwinian racial theories are widespread in european society.
Mussolini invents fascism in Italy.
The NSDAP brown-shirts are regularly getting into bloody streetfights with communist thugs.

But it was the Democrats who gave Hitler his ideas. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
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Dinesh DSouza: "Hitler got his ideas from the Democrats!" (Original Post) DetlefK Aug 2017 OP
Yes, he called Obama on the Magic Time Phone right after the Beer Hall Putsch . . . hatrack Aug 2017 #1
It's consistent with Obama placing notices of his birth in Hawaiian papers... JHB Aug 2017 #27
Right. It was those damn leftist Jews that gave Hitler his ideas. onenote Aug 2017 #2
oh, fuck this guy spanone Aug 2017 #3
Who cares what a felon thinks? Gothmog Aug 2017 #4
I really thought that asshole was in prison. Dave Starsky Aug 2017 #12
Exactly. dalton99a Aug 2017 #33
Dinesh D'Souza - fraud of the highest order. JHan Aug 2017 #5
Will there be a new movie for the stupid people in the world who follow him? lunasun Aug 2017 #6
I thought Jonah Goldberg had the market saturated in liberal-Hitler comparisons Johonny Aug 2017 #7
You beat me to it underpants Aug 2017 #19
Why isn't this evil liar itcfish Aug 2017 #8
So the joke, liar and criminal is now ripping off douchebag Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism" bullshit underpants Aug 2017 #9
When is Jonah Goldberg going to write a follow up book Doc_Technical Aug 2017 #13
I actually wanted to read that book underpants Aug 2017 #16
What have I told you angrychair Aug 2017 #10
:-) underpants Aug 2017 #17
Hitler and DSouza - two evil liars SharonClark Aug 2017 #11
Well yeah... CincyDem Aug 2017 #14
Did he learn that in prison? Renew Deal Aug 2017 #15
Adulterous ex-con says what? gratuitous Aug 2017 #18
Here's a classic. Colbert (old show) makes a complete FOOL out of D'Souza underpants Aug 2017 #22
fantastic ProfessorPlum Aug 2017 #29
The vacuousness of modern conservative intellectual thinking these days truly astounds me. Yavin4 Aug 2017 #20
Why this empty-headed lawbreaker still gets attention is a mystery. (nt) Paladin Aug 2017 #21
If he wants to go THERE, all right. no_hypocrisy Aug 2017 #23
Well, look who crawled out from under his rock louis-t Aug 2017 #24
When you invoke Hitler you lose the argument automatically. lpbk2713 Aug 2017 #25
D'Souza should learn D'Google C_U_L8R Aug 2017 #26
Flunked History 101, gets his factoids from Alt History Fiction novels. nt procon Aug 2017 #28
He wrote a book, in jail? Good use of his time MiddleClass Aug 2017 #30
You got some details mixed up. DetlefK Aug 2017 #34
The history denier speaks nonsense again. sinkingfeeling Aug 2017 #31
No but the republicans are getting their cues from Hitler. Initech Aug 2017 #32
So the Governor of Indiana who engaged in eugenics was a Democrat? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #35

JHB

(37,162 posts)
27. It's consistent with Obama placing notices of his birth in Hawaiian papers...
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 12:22 PM
Aug 2017

Oh, dang, I think I know who the 15th Doctor is going to be.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
12. I really thought that asshole was in prison.
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 11:15 AM
Aug 2017

Literal voter fraud, or something.

Like all such crimes, it's okay if you're a Republican.

Johonny

(20,888 posts)
7. I thought Jonah Goldberg had the market saturated in liberal-Hitler comparisons
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 11:02 AM
Aug 2017

Conservative, one who is never afraid to take a dried up failed idea and try to squeeze another buck from it.

underpants

(182,879 posts)
9. So the joke, liar and criminal is now ripping off douchebag Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism" bullshit
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 11:03 AM
Aug 2017

Yes I actually fit that all into the subject line.

No one takes this miserable joke seriously except the easy marks.

Doc_Technical

(3,527 posts)
13. When is Jonah Goldberg going to write a follow up book
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 11:16 AM
Aug 2017

to "Liberal Fascism" and call it "Conservative Communism".
You need a second oxymoron to counteract the first.

underpants

(182,879 posts)
16. I actually wanted to read that book
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 11:18 AM
Aug 2017

But I'm not buying it and I'm not going to be seen walking around with a Hitler 'stached smiley face. That's the only copy my library had.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
10. What have I told you
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 11:06 AM
Aug 2017

Never go full Hitler, no one takes you seriously after that, never go full Hitler!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
18. Adulterous ex-con says what?
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 11:20 AM
Aug 2017

Oh look, Dinesh has another book to sell. Isn't it sweet that some publishing house thinks his scribblings are worth money? Now, let's talk about how raising the minimum wage turns workers into slothful, lazy layabouts who don't contribute anything to society.

underpants

(182,879 posts)
22. Here's a classic. Colbert (old show) makes a complete FOOL out of D'Souza
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 11:26 AM
Aug 2017

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/2tdkm8/the-colbert-report-dinesh-d-souza

This s is my recap the next day on DU. 2007.


So D'Souza was on to promote his latest book "The Enemy At Home: The Cultural Left and Its Responsibilty for 9/11" (remember that title it comes in handy later) and after he claims that Reagan's selling of Hawk missiles to Ghaddafi kept him out of the terrorism business (huh?) he went on to claim that gays were part of the reason that 9/11 happened oh and then he admitted that he really didn't know very much about gay culture.


THEN it got weird.

Colbert actually got him to admit that he, D'Souza, agreed with "some of the things that these radical Islamic fundamentalist have to say" as Colbert put it "you do agree with that statement don't you"

D'Souza "Yes"

then and I mean right then Colbert says (~paraphrased) "So the left is the cause of why 9/11 happened"

D'Souza "I think that is taking it a bit far"

Colbert "That is why I had you on the show because I agree with that statement (pointing to and reading from the book cover)The Cultural Left and Its Responsibilty for 9/11"

D'Souza (incredulously) "I DIDN'T DO 9/11!!!"

Colbert then went on to turn it back on the the left and Hollywood taking his foot off D'Souza's neck if you will.

The funniest part was that D'Souza didn't seem to know what was happening. Colbert used an old tactic that RW radio host do all the time-keep reasking a question cutting off the replies until you make a statement and ask if they agree with it. I watched this thing a couple of times (sorry didn't take exact notes on the quotation), the audience's response is muted a bit but some appear to realize what Colbert had just gotten D'Souza to do-REJECT HIS OWN THESIS.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
20. The vacuousness of modern conservative intellectual thinking these days truly astounds me.
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 11:22 AM
Aug 2017

They've gone beyond pure greed and ignorance to highly fanciful, completely delusional discourse. They're literally pulling ideas out of thin air.

no_hypocrisy

(46,190 posts)
23. If he wants to go THERE, all right.
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 11:47 AM
Aug 2017

1. Hitler got his ideas for mass extermination of Jews, gypsies, lesbians & gays, etc. from the United States. In the Twenties, states were sterilizing wholesale populations that were poor and uneducated and sometimes mentally challenged under the guise of feeble-mindedness. Hitler started with sterilization and moved ahead with extermination.

2. Hitler had a photo of Henry Ford hanging in his anteroom because of Ford's virulent anti-Semitism (published in his newspaper) and Ford's endorsement of state-sponsored eugenics to breed a better generation.

3. While the *Southern* democrats of the Twenties and the Thirties leaned toward segregation, the KKK, and Jim Crow laws, it was a segment of the party, not the party itself. If anyone was Fascist, it was a certain segment of republican business leaders who proposed a Putsch to remove FDR from office by the military and install a corporate leader in his place to run the country.

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
24. Well, look who crawled out from under his rock
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 12:04 PM
Aug 2017

puked on the sidewalk and farted out a lie before returning to the damp, stinky place under his rock. It's Dense DeSousaphone.

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
30. He wrote a book, in jail? Good use of his time
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 01:57 PM
Aug 2017

Obviously, facts are stubborn things.

Hitler was one of the founders of the Nazi party.

The opposition at the time was called the Socialist Democrats.

The opposite, in the reasons the Nazis got a footing.

Socialist Democrats were enamored with Stalin and communism. The opposite of fascism.

It looks like prison time did not help his brain,

if he didn't go to prison for election fraud maybe, should have

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
34. You got some details mixed up.
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 04:51 AM
Aug 2017

The biggest parties at the time were:
NSDAP - nationalist, fascist, anti-liberal, racist
Zentrum - basically centrists
SPD - social-democrats, center-left
KPD - communists, extreme left

The democracy of the Weimarer Republik was young and inexperienced and had no system in place how to deal with political sabotage.
The Communists and the NSDAP both wanted to see democracy gone and both sabotaged the parliamentary process. Crisis ensued, except the NSDAP was able to outmaneuver the KPD by allying with Big Money and used the political chaos to their advantage. The KPD lost the power-struggle and was destroyed.

But make no mistake: Hitler rose to power because democracy was under attack from both sides.

Initech

(100,102 posts)
32. No but the republicans are getting their cues from Hitler.
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 02:39 PM
Aug 2017

Things like white supremacy and Christian nationalism, for starters!

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
35. So the Governor of Indiana who engaged in eugenics was a Democrat?
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 05:34 AM
Aug 2017

It seems Din-Din is blinded by his colonial mindset and ignorant of the history of the party he serves.

*The governor in question is J. Frank Hanly of Indiana, in 1907. They were a nasty bunch even before the 60's.

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