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The explosive claim is part of the lawsuit filed against Fox News by Rod Wheeler, a longtime paid commentator for the news network. The suit was obtained exclusively by NPR.
Wheeler alleges Fox News and the Trump supporter intended to deflect public attention from growing concern about the administration's ties to the Russian government. His suit charges that a Fox News reporter created quotations out of thin air and attributed them to him to propel her story.
http://www.npr.org/2017/08/01/540783715/lawsuit-alleges-fox-news-and-trump-supporter-created-fake-news-story
The money shot:
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)disgusting.
FSogol
(45,525 posts)DBoon
(22,397 posts)They don't believe in facts, they believe in truthiness
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)Revoke their broadcasting license, kick them off the network, do something!
dawn frenzy adams
(429 posts)The Hacking Scandal is Great Britain produced over 100 arrests. James Murdoch was basically thrown out of Great Britain because of it. News Corporation is an American company. We should have demanded that their license be suspended then. The question about America is why have we allowed this kind of dangerous rhetoric that Fox propagates on our airwaves? It all speaks volumes about us.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Without validating every Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones fan?
And who is "we?"
I hear from many that "the Dems are milquetoast wussies" but I never hear how the hell "Dems" are supposed to override the Constitution.
And you don't include me in your ongoing ragging on "us" who never seem to "do anything" to stop them.
What is your deal?
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)Remember when Bill O'Reilly was politely asked to leave Fox News? It wasn't that long ago, and it wasn't that polite either.
A lot of people (including many of us from DU) contacted O'Reilly's advertisers and made it clear that we wouldn't buy their products if they continued to sponsor him. It was that simple and it didn't take long to get him out. He was gone in less than a month as I recall.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Because consumers don't "take someone off the air," their producers do. If the government steps in - no matter the party - it's censorship.
When you stated that Democrats should have "taken Fox off the air when they could have" that implied censorship.
I don't know if the boycott was the deciding factor on O'Reilly being exited. His out of court settlements with sexual harassment victims were costing them a lot more money than any boycott was costing advertisers. And settling out of court wasn't keeping the victims quiet. Also, they were trying to purchase another company, and negative publicity wasn't helping the asking price, or getting the deal approved.
https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/04/why-was-bill-oreilly-really-fired/523614/
"Another factor in the death of the Factor: 21st Century Foxs pending takeover of Sky TV, the European pay-TV company, in a deal said to be worth $14 billion. On May 16, New York magazine reported, the British media regulator Ofcom is set to judge whether the Murdochs are fit and proper to own such a large media property. And removing OReilly could appease critics and help close the Sky deal.
You know whats worth more than $446 million? $14 billion.
Morality via math: Its not a particularly pleasant way to go about righting wrongs. Capitalism looks decidedly awkward when it tries on a superheros cape. But this is a time in which companies do act, often, as arbiters of discourse, and in which they are increasingly cognizant of their need to stay on the right side of historyfor financial reasons if for no other ones. "
summer_in_TX
(2,752 posts)revoked. Most of their shows are on cable channels, not regulated like broadcast media like the so-called legacy networks are (ABC, NBC, and CBS).
In some markets they bought stations that do broadcast. Austin's Fox channel used to be a CBS affiliate. It's theoretically possible that its license could be revoked. But the FCC has steadily weakened those measures. Now stations are up for renewal once every eight year, instead of the three years that were previously required - and some critics give up when it takes that much time.
In Texas, TV licenses will be due for renewal around 2022. TV stations now have to have their public files online and you should be able to check the FCC database on what complaints may have been filed against it. Google to find the renewal dates in each state. Radio stations are up for renewal one year sooner.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...NOT!
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)FUCK YOU; You're a complete fraud!
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)And I concur!
Zoonart
(11,878 posts)Direct manipulation of the media too obstruct justice.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)iluvtennis
(19,871 posts)Yrs ago, I complained to fcc, about fox's lies. Received nice form letter stating basically that since fox was entertainment and not news, they could lie all they wanted.
Iwasthere
(3,170 posts)Volaris
(10,274 posts)And any 'newsroom' that doesn't claim to be entertainment, should be forced by law to be non-profit (or at least revenue-neutral).
The networks shouldn't be able to turn a profit of what should be a Public Service. If Fox doesn't like it, they can get the hell out of the news business.
calimary
(81,466 posts)I'm from California and I love my blue state, too!
That's pretty ridiculous - that they'd say something isn't news when its very NAME includes the word "news," their very presentation suggests "news," and unlike spoof constructs like The Daily Show and other such programs that are CLEARLY amusement and satire, they carry on like they're legit, all the way down to the graphics and mic flags. And they had White House press credentials. If I were president, that's one thing I'd yank away.
mitch96
(13,924 posts)They claimed that they were "info-tainment" and not a main stream news outlet.. They won the case.. So the law says they are not news and they can entertain us the way we want... ugh..
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Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)This family begged for privacy and they were hounded relentlessly.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)exboyfil
(17,865 posts)and still appeared in follow up on Fox makes me question his credibility.
On the other hand this can be important.
"The first page of the lawsuit quotes a voicemail and text from Butowsky boasting that President Trump himself had reviewed drafts of the Fox News story just before it went to air and was published."
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)fake news stories? We can call them all b.s.?
no one needs to answer...
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)they were in the concoction of their fake news. And, it involves the White House. Holy cow.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)story hard before he got blowback.
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)you hardly ever see them (Cons) flip like that.. I guess his check didn't clear ... or he has a concience?
Moostache
(9,897 posts)I worry that it is just more fabrication on top of fabrication so that in the end, you end up with a gumbo-style mish-mash of real stories with exaggerations and fake stories with partial truths and then totally fabricated nonsense to such a degree that the majority of people simply write it all off...their end game desire from the start.
If this story is accurate and proven true, this is getting so far beyond Watergate that it is truly stunning. The White House coordinating its propaganda with a complicit "news" outlet and then using this as a megaphone to obfuscate and flat out lie to the public? Jesus H. Christ...makes me WISH this was about a botched robbery and third rate cover-up...this is about completely dismantling the government of the United States and doing the bidding of a madman and his criminal family...we're becoming an insult to banana republics now...
maxrandb
(15,351 posts)will be to INVESTIGATE HILLARY CLINTON
Mark...My...Words!!!
underpants
(182,877 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,730 posts)THis should be exhibit 1 of intent to obstruct justice.
underpants
(182,877 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,281 posts)Screaming "#FakeNews!!!" at everything is really just waging a credibility war
DarleenMB
(408 posts)We just hit light speed.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)SDJay
(1,089 posts)This is unbelievably despicable. I'd be suing anyone and everyone to the fucking stone age if I was one of the poor people whose tragedy was overtly manipulated for petty and selfish reasons.
Disgusting. This entire administration disgusts me, and it starts at the top. Yet another reminder of why it's only the true scum that want to work for this awful person in the WH.
yuiyoshida
(41,861 posts)den of Liars, and Assholes. Worst US Government EVER... George Washington and Thomas Jefferson would hang their head in shame over what these Tea baggers have done to the WHITE HOUSE Reputation.
All-In
(312 posts)Knowingly producing false propaganda makes it necessary to remove the word news from their name.
Lietanemant.
underpants
(182,877 posts)WHAT STANDARDS?!????
gademocrat7
(10,667 posts)Everday another revelation of obstruction and distraction.
lark
(23,155 posts)For years we've known that Faux was just the communications dept. for the Repug party, now it's proven that they get their marching orders directly from the President!
Is that legal?
Orrex
(63,224 posts)We can expect this to harm Trump's approval ratings not at all.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)vkkv
(3,384 posts)Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
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Gothmog
(145,554 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Bengus81
(6,932 posts)SunSeeker
(51,697 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)Tell me again how "both sides" are responsible for degrading the culture in DC?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)during Dump's election and spit on their son's grave in service to a damn yellow draft dodging coward, BLOTUS 45!
There are no depths the fucking republicans will not sink to after that outrage.
Kingofalldems
(38,475 posts)No change since Watergate.
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)They do it 24/7!
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)Why? Because it works. At least on the brain challenged deplorables. It at least sows confusion about the bottom truth.
They set it up beforehand just in case they do get caught. Case in point: Trump proclaiming that the election is rigged at his last debate. So much so that he may not even accept the results. So that if and when the MSM news ever finds out the collusion he has done with Putin, at the very worst, his supporters are left with the impression that EVERYBODY does it. Or that both sides are claiming the other are guilty, or the MSM are inventing fake news about them. So Democrats believe that Republicans are cheating (which they are) and Republicans think that Democrats are cheating (because their big orange leader, plus all the RW media, says so).
Hekate
(90,793 posts)How many of "my generals" are loyal to the Mad King, and how many are 100% sure if their loyalty to the US Constitution?
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)ConWay famously said that everyone lies cause they are not under oath. The only way to force them to tell the truth is in the court. I wish Hillary would sue for defamation that caused real damage to her. This way in the court of law, all the lies would be revealed in front of the public eye.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)They smear her reputation and she has to take them to court to get it back. Do not let a lie take hold.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)You would be called a "paid Hillbot from correct the record."
Or an agent of the Deep State.....
Those that believe this shit want to believe it. And you know that if HRC dares to show her face in public, let alone sue to prove their pet conspiracy theories about her murderous/corporate whore/salivating to turn our country over to WALL STREET fantasies wrong, they will just spread it faster than gamers spread the address of a woman who dares to call them out.
syringis
(5,101 posts)reminds me who keep complaining about "fake news" day after day?
berksdem
(595 posts)almost out of words... this is not a democracy. This needs to be all over the M$M networks. I mean... unreal!
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)along with our alt-President.
bobGandolf
(871 posts)Quite frustrating that this white noise approach has not been talked about more openly. Every Friday, like clockwork, some outlandish piece of "fake news" is released so it swamps the network's weekend news, and Sunday talk shows.
I hope this is mentioned more frequently.
Freethinker65
(10,048 posts)underpants
(182,877 posts)Boomerproud
(7,964 posts)Extremely depressing and demoralizing.
GoCubsGo
(32,088 posts)OnDoutside
(19,970 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,730 posts)Seth Conrad Rich (January 3, 1989 July 10, 2016) was an American employee for the Democratic National Committee (DNC) who was fatally shot in the Bloomingdale neighborhood of Washington, D.C.[1][2][3] As of May 2017 the shooting is under investigation by the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department.[4]
The murder spawned several right-wing conspiracy theories about the crime, including the groundless claim that Rich had been involved with the leaked DNC emails in 2016, which runs contrary to U.S. intelligence that concluded the leaked DNC emails were part of 2016 U.S. elections interference.[5][6][7] These theories were debunked by law enforcement,[5][6] as well as by fact-checking websites like PolitiFact.com,[6][8] Snopes.com,[9] and FactCheck.org.[5] The fabrications were described as fake news and falsehoods by The New York Times,[10] Los Angeles Times,[11] and The Washington Post.[12]
Rich's parents condemned the conspiracy theorists and said that these individuals were exploiting their son's death for political gain, with their spokesperson calling them "sociopaths" and "disgusting".[13][14][15] They requested a retraction and apology from Fox News,[16] and sent a cease and desist letter to the investigator Fox News used.[6][15][16] The investigator admitted he had no evidence to back up his claims, and Fox News issued a retraction.[5][6][17]
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)They published a story they KNEW to be untrue and that caused harm (emotional distress) to a non-public figure. Get a good lawyer and sue for a couple of hundred million!
Blue Owl
(50,494 posts)MiddleClass
(888 posts)Maybe the law demanded they drop the second part, now force them to drop "NEWS"
and prominently display the word "ENTERTAINMENT"
Initech
(100,102 posts)Who will stop at nothing to hurt everyone they come in contact with to gain power. They are psychopaths.
Hulk Smash II
(11 posts)Every time I think I couldn't hate Fox News and that smarmy asshat Hannity any more, something new comes along and proves me wrong.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Fabricate news and peddle it to the masses?
Doing so is undermining one of the major underpinnings of American democracy: freedom of the press.
The culprits should face the full consequences of the law for KNOWINGLY engaging in the dissemination of false and misleading information under the guise of reporting the news.
This country dies when real news is dismissed as fake, and fake news is allowed to become the mainstream. We're getting perilously close to that right now. PRAVDA, here we come.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)They knew their audience.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)Funny how they are indistinguishable from Trumpsters in every single way.
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)greeny2323
(590 posts)I think the chyron on MSNBC said that Wheeler will be on with Ari Melber coming up.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)that Trump/GOP decided to allegedly fabricate a conspiracy story out of Rich's death.
Takket
(21,625 posts)I don't expect the FCC to revoke their license over this but can they be fined or punished over this somehow? This action means they are no longer a news organization but rather a propaganda mouthpiece for the executive branch. Allowing that to go on threatens our country. i know "first amendment" but that is meant to protect the press and when Fox works with the government on made up stories they are not acting as a press organization at that time. one thing to lie on their own but another to do 45's dirty work for him
videohead5
(2,181 posts)Over Fox News.they are a cable network not a broadcast network.
oasis
(49,407 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)They're using a small shiney bauble, the Seth Rich story, to distract us from something bad enough the Republicans will HAVE to impeach the bastard and all his cronies to save their own seats if said terrible thing ever comes to light.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)The entire FOX morning news crew was invited over for a thank-you dinner.