The Bain story has no legs

[jaysunb]

Last edited Thu Jul 12, 2012, 11:24 PM - Edit history (1)

It's just something to distract the left from what we should be doing or talking about.

How do I know this ?

I just watched the network news (ABC) and there was absolutely no mention of the faux left wing scandal. The lovely Diane Sawyer opened by telling us:

The outrage of Olympic clothes were made in China. The national outrage !
And then.....

What they're talking about in the Sandusky/Paterno scandal
and then....

Dentist give children too much anesthesia
and then...

And now we're "reporting" on tunnels Mexicans use to smuggle drugs into the Country.
And then....

Something about the dangers of Propcia
and then...

Some other dumb shit that had nothing to do w/ "news" and everything to do w/ infotainment.
So, if us lefties thought we'd put another nail in Romney's coffin by exposing him for who he really is...think again. MSM is 75% responsible for the situation this country finds itself in

[ForgoTheConsequence]

1. Damn librul media.

They're going to protect Romney all the way till November.

[freshwest]

2. +1

[xtraxritical]

59. I know you're being sarcastic but MSM is anything but liberal, it's the opiate of the masses.

[bluestateguy]

3. Don't pee in my Wheaties

[jaysunb]

8. That's not pee...

it's a dose of reality.... and btw, I only watched that show to see how this story would be presented to the mainstream public. It wasn't

[bluestateguy]

9. No. You are trying rain on my parade

and it is not appreciated.

So I reject this.

[jaysunb]

15. C'mon Bluestate

This post is designed to keep people paying attention and to encourage this and other Romney negatives to stay on the front burner.

Maybe I should have used the sarcasm button.

[Voice for Peace]

30. we start with You tube, Facebook, etc.

eventually the msm catches up, sort of.

[progressivebydesign]

4. it has legs.. it just takes a little longer to develop for the McNews crowd... n/t

[robinlynne]

24. like 20 years.... Now it is ok to say there were no weapons of mass destruction.......

[Rozlee]

48. I heard nary a peep from the MSM about

Jeff "Tighty Whities" Gannon at the time his story was unraveling in liberal websites and he's practically forgotten today. Whenever I've mentioned him to anyone outside progressive websites, I've gotten blank looks. We Democrats are wusses. If a Jeff Gannon had happened on a Democrat's watch, Republicans would have started on congressional investigations and hearings. We just grumble and talk about Republican malefeasance, but it never gets any traction because we don't pummel it with threats of grand juries and getting subpoenas. If there's even the possibility Romney's done something wrong, Obama's got governmental power to shake plenty of trees to get investigations underway or to threaten to. As desperate as Romney is about refusing to reveal his records, he's probably hiding anything from a major felony to receipts for hair implants.

[robinlynne]

67. yes.

[turtlerescue1]

5. Mitters is looking more and more like a repeat of the wonderful

world of Danny Quayle. Spell POTATO Mitters.

BUT then I remember when Garrison Keillor wrote about the incident involving an RNC Senate candidate. Learned later the RNC spent almost $40,000 to "purchase" tapes of this outstanding person at a strip club. Imagine what they would be willing to do with so much "interest" from the SuperPACs? Time will tell eh?

[ChoppinBroccoli]

23. I Keep Calling Him Bob Dole Without The Likability

If this keeps up, he'll end up getting slaughtered way worse than Bob Dole did in 1996 too. He never had a chance to win, but at least he could have tried to keep it respectable.

[turtlerescue1]

34. I am sure praying for that.

To keep something "respectable", first a person has to understand what the word "respect" means and then try to live the idea of it in real life.

[Blanks]

6. This is why I believe fighting campaign funds with campaign funds isn't gonna work.

Sure, the democrats have to fight back on the TV to some degree, but if Romney has donors that are gonna whip out the check book every time an ugly story about him comes up; we aren't going to come up with more to get them to run the story.

Television runs on advertising. If you think that someone who pays for a lot of ads doesn't have any control over the programming; you're not cynical enough.

This is gonna have to get its legs from the Internet. I think it's too early to come out in full force yet anyway. Everyone will have forgotten by election day. Unless they've got another good pile of dirt queued up to follow right behind this.

[jillan]

7. And that is exactly why The Newsroom is such a big hit. It is what people miss & long for...

THE NEWS....Factual NEWS!

[jaysunb]

11. I gotta watch that

I've heard lots of positive things about the show..

[Voice for Peace]

32. question: is the show dealing with fictional reporters reporting on actual real life current news?

I watched the first episode but can't remember anything except that I wish I had HBO>

[spanone]

12. the reason they're NOT reporting on it, it has legs

[leveymg]

13. NBC covered it as one of the lead stories. But, then they switched to Syria regime change mode

Damned "Liberal media" is on one hand neo-liberal and on the other neocon. Make up your damn minds.

[pnwmom]

14. There's plenty of times for the story to grow longer legs. In fact, it's better this way.

I'd rather cut him off at the knees AFTER he wins the nomination, not before.

[jaysunb]

16. I agree and you're right. n/t

[Voice for Peace]

35. maybe if he keeps shooting himself in the foot

nobody will have to cut him off at the knees.

[rufus dog]

17. Duly noted!

Which is a polite fuck off!

Last month I heard that picking on Romney for Bain was a loser

Try again!

On second thought, give it up.

[jaysunb]

19. Please re read the first line of the post.

And, no, I won't "give it up." We must stay focused like a laser on this election and not let the MSM get away w/ blurring the facts Americans need to make an informed opinion.

Sorry if you're offended.....

[rufus dog]

21. your first line

"It's just something to distract the left from what we should be doing or talking about."


No, it is something that Mitt Romney owns, it is his core. Again, I won't quit talking about his scummy ways, I don't give it fuck if Bill Clinton says to move on and I sure as fuck don't give a shit when some poster tells me to move on.

Got it!?

Edit: because a lot of us didn't understand the first line was sarcasm.

Like Robert DiNero, "I'm watching you"

[creeksneakers2]

18. ABC is worse than Fox

[Art_from_Ark]

57. I don't know if it's worse than FOX, but

every time I go back to the US and watch ABC News, I think, wow, it is trying to sink to FOX's level.

[Kalidurga]

20. You know what would be funny

So funny I don't know when I would stop laughing funny? If this story gets pretty much ignored and the Feds decide they are going to arrest Mitt Robme for lying to the SEC. And MSM is just stunned that they have ignored this story til it is too obvious to ignore.

[Drunken Irishman]

22. Top story on ABCnews.com:

Romney's Time at Bain: Did He Break the Law?

[jillan]

26. Wow! Thanks DI for posting that.

[jaysunb]

27. Wasn't when I posted this thread

also, the majority of Americans STILL get their news from the nightly network shows. But I'm glad they've put it up after knowing the story all day.

And here's the rest of the headline story:

Full Story|Related:Who's Lying? Obama, Romney and the Bain Debate

ok ?

[Drunken Irishman]

39. That's fine...the more we have the Bain Debate, the more Romney is in trouble.

Remember, there was a lot of fact checking in '04 on the Swiftboaters, even stories in the MSM that said it was false, yet it still inflicted damage to Kerry. This will do the same.

It's like putting out the story that your opponent is a goat fucker. It may prove to not be true, you might be called a liar for it, but it's far more damaging just to hear the opponent say he hasn't fucked goats.

[jaysunb]

41. I totally agree

This post is intended to remind progressive that you can't think everything we know is being communicated to the public.

I for one am deliriously happy to see Democrats on the offensive.

[Drunken Irishman]

45. It's about time, right?!?

Keep Romney on his heels.

[jaysunb]

55. It's the way to win. :) n/t

[wordpix]

60. hahahaha, karma

[Tx4obama]

25. CNN covered it tonight. And MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell spent ONE HOUR on Romney :) n/t

[99th_Monkey]

29. That's good to know

I dropped my cable package that included MSNBC and CNN,
once the 1 year "trial offer" expired, cuz I'm living on the
proverbial edge financially these daze.

[Lars39]

37. CNN was covering it this morning also...had a lovely time in the waiting room. :-)

[Drunken Irishman]

40. It's out there. It's becoming a big pile of steaming OMFG SHIT for Romney.

[99th_Monkey]

28. I noticed that too .. "even" on OPB

ho-hum.

All about Sanduski, Penn State, predicted food shortages and
increase in food prices, due to ?? Climate change was maybe
mentioned once in passing.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

[Gman]

31. The MSM runs a few days behind the Internet

Give it a couple of days. Granted the timing isn't good going into the weekend. But it could be gathering steam in the MSM by Monday.

[jberryhill]

33. A lot of this needs re-confirmation before networks will run with it

One problem is that guys like Brooks Jackson over at Factcheck.org are suggesting the SEC documents show that Romney's participation was passive. The SEC documents themselves don't fully resolve that question, but the way factcheck.org phrases it, conveys the impression they do.

There are likely a couple of more shoes to drop yet.

[Coyotl]

36. So, someone actually watched the network news tonight. Now that's a gripping story

about an outdated and rather irrelevant media

[jaysunb]

38. The majority of Americans STILL get their news from the networks n/t

[mzmolly]

42. Hopefully, it will grow legs

at just the right time.

[aquart]

43. And here I was calling it Secretariat.

[JVS]

44. Wait, did they finally tell the public that handling propecia causes pregnant women to bear dragons?

[lynne]

46. Washington Post take on the story -

- is that if it has any legs at all, it's limping badly -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romney-and-his-departure-from-bain/2012/07/12/gJQAASzUfW_blog.html?tid=pm_pop

[wordpix]

61. but that pic shows Rmoney is all beat up so this is taking its toll on him

"This" being all his lies he's being called out on.

[msanthrope]

70. Glenn Kessler already got the shit beat out of him by Brad Delong....

http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2012/07/is-this-the-silliest-thing-glenn-kessler-of-the-washington-post-has-ever-written.html

[ProSense]

47. Don't worry

Romney is busy giving it legs: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002939317

I mean, ads! What a great way to educate the public on the defensive.

The GOP shills in the MSM are busy trying to sweep the story under the rug by setting up as a he said, she said piece.

John King: Why is 1999 so important in 2012?
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/12/politics/john-king-bain/index.html

Where are the documents and the tax returns?



http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002935125

[jillan]

49. What should happen next is someone from Bain needs to go onto a show

like Lawrence, or Rachel or - since David Corn broke most of these stories, maybe it should be him.

They need to be questioned by someone that is not afraid to ask follow up questions - and they need to have answers for what happened.


But - that would never happen.
As the song goes - "there's nobody home but us chickens".

[HooptieWagon]

51. "Aint Nobody HERE But Us Chickens"

Sorry. Its a Louis Jordan classic, and I love Louis Jordan. He bridged the era from big band to early rock and roll.
Saturday Night Fish Fry, Five Guys Named Moe, Is You Is Or Is You Aint My Baby, Whats The Use Of Gettin' Sober, Open The Door Richard, Fat Sam From Birmingham, etc.
I turned a punk rock musician from Iceland on to Louis Jordan... now hes playing it all over there!

[jillan]

68. You're right! Smack me!! I first discovered that song when my kids were little.

They had a cassette tape from a funky kid's band that called themselves The Peanut Butter Cookie Band.
"Ain't Nobody Here But Us Chickens" was on that tape, and I feel in love with that song. In fact their whole tape was pretty good for a kid's group.

As usual, with cassette tapes, it broke. I tried to find it online and couldn't but came across Louis Jordan on You Tube and listened to him singing it. I ended up sitting there on You Tube going thru all his music. I had never heard of him before.
He was phenomenal!! Glad to hear that his music is being played again. More people need to listen to him.

[HooptieWagon]

73. Im happy to find another Louis Jordan fan!

My mother used to sing me his songs, and a lot of other depression and WW2 era songs, when I was a boy. She never told me who did them though. So as an adult Ive had to go back and rediscover and learn that music. Such fun!

[caseymoz]

50. Actually, it still has time to work.

These events live on the Internet now, and the MSM follows what happens there if anything.

[elleng]

52. In NYT:

Campaigns Trade Salvos Over a Romney Role at Bain After 1999.

For weeks, President Obama’s top campaign strategists have tried to establish that Mitt Romney was at the helm of Bain Capital when some of its companies moved workers overseas.

Proving his presence at Bain between 1999 and 2002 would create a direct link to what Mr. Obama’s team describes as the outsourcing of American jobs. And it would contradict Mr. Romney’s repeated assertions that by then he had left Bain, the private equity firm he founded, to rescue the Salt Lake City Olympic Games.

But definitive proof about Mr. Romney’s activities remains elusive, leading to another day of increasingly bitter charges and countercharges from the two campaigns.

On Thursday — even as Mr. Romney started broadcasting a television commercial accusing the president of approving dishonest attacks — Mr. Obama’s campaign seized on a new report in The Boston Globe about Securities and Exchange Commission documents showing that Mr. Romney was listed as the chief executive, president and owner of Bain Capital during that period.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/13/us/politics/campaigns-trade-salvos-over-a-romney-role-at-bain-after-1999.html?_r=1&hpw

[xtraxritical]

62. There is no better evidence than the SEC filings, they cannot be disputed

if the filings say he was managing the company then he was, period. The President should rip him a new one on this.

[iamthebandfanman]

53. what i dont understand is ... opensecrets.org

says that bain contributed 72% of $802,778 spent on candidates/party to democrats...yet when it comes to PAC spending, they are 100% of $2,250,000 to conservative groups/causes..

[SammyWinstonJack]

54. Funny how the MSM had no problem nailing a progressive candidate for Pres. in 2008

for a personal indiscretion to the wall and then making sure that person was forever destroyed politically.

Yet this sleaze bag repuke, a totally vile person whose wealth consists of screwing over the working class is the equivalent of a boy scout?

How does that work, exactly?

The corporate whore media has it's marching orders with regard to RMoney as it had with regard to Edwards.

Attack a Democratic candidate with a progressive message, over a personal indescretion, and protect the lying corrupt conservative candidate.

[Phlem]

56. Amen Brotha

I've lived in an intellectually vacant environment growing up. But that did not stop my discovering critical thinking. According to the recent edition of "Scientific American", there is some considerable effort involved in Critical Thinking, and so much so, that most of the population doesn't do it.

Combined with low paying wages, available jobs, and Merica looking like Mexico.

Infotainment it is and it captures the heart of the willing.

Willfull ignorance, the greatest evil of all.

-p

[underseasurveyor]

58. Look at bush the lesser run for president.

Cocaine use, AWOL, Silverado, Oil, god what else, he got so many passes it was sickening... Anyway with every breaking story we were sure there was no way the people would vote for a bush/cheney ticket but the media helped him by under-reporting or not reporting at all, propped him up like a shining star and there we have it, the next president of the United States. Then there was the chad issue after that but still I for one was positive after each and every story of all the bad shit that came out about gw during his campaign there was no way in Hell he'll even get close. Was I wrong but it opened up my eyes to how the media world works.

MSM will do the same thing with Rmoney.

[jaysunb]

63. Your facts are spot on,

but, I hope we've learned from the past.

[underseasurveyor]

66. I hope so too jaysun but that may be too much to ask.

If the media won't "report" the people will never know despite having all the info at their finger tips. Theyre too damn lazy and ignorant. Sadly. But some of us know better.

[xtraxritical]

64. Not only the media but electronic rigged voting machines!

[underseasurveyor]

65. Yes I touchedon that too.

But it was the campaign up until that time that the media propped up the bush puppet under a shining light and they failed miserably to investigate and report unbiasly as they are suppose to do. The few that did try were suddenly yanked off the air. Ashley Banfield comes to mind first. Or they were threatened with jail, etc. Hell the b/c administration exposed a CIA agent for goodness sakes a few piddley reporters are akin to smashing bugs to them.

[EVDebs]

69. Pierce Romney's corporate alter ego veil.

Then the story has legs.

[MustBeTheBooz]

71. I'd put it at more like 57%. At that's pushing it! Too many other factors.

[thesquanderer]

72. Romney going onto every network demanding Obama's apology...

...is serving to call more attention to it on the main news programs.

Likewise, I don't know if the accusations ever made it to the front page of nytimes.com, but Romney's asking for an apology is there now.