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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPowerful Testimony On Exactly What Vladimir Putin Wanted From Trump And Why
By Walter Einenkel at Daily Kos
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/28/1684989/-William-Browder-breaks-down-exactly-what-Putin-wanted-from-Trump-and-why
"SNIP............
William Browder, CEO of Hermitage Management Capital, knows Vladimir Putin and his political machine very intimately. It was Mr. Browders former Russian lawyerSergei Magnitsky, killed by the Russian State apparatus under Putins control in 2009that led to the passing of the Magnitsky Act under President Obama.
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Browder: Vladimir Putin, I believe him to be the richest person in the world, I believe him to be worth 200 billion dollars. That money is held in banks all over the world, in America and all over. The purpose of Putins regime has been to commit terrible crimes to get that money, and he doesnt want to lose that money by having it frozen. So he personally is at risk of the Magnitsky Act. Its a very personal, venal issue which is why, the first reason, hes so upset.
The second reason is that in order to get that $200 billion, he has had to instruct people working for himlets say ten thousand people working for himto do terrible things: to arrest, kidnap, torture, and kill to take people's property away. And as a result, the only way to get people to do such terrible things, is to say, if you do them, there will be no consequence. You will enjoy absolute impunity.
As a result of the Magnitsky Act, he can no longer guarantee absolute impunity, because all-of-a-sudden, we have created consequences in the West. I would not understate the value of the Magnitsky Act in terms of the consequences, because not only does it freeze the assets that are held in America, but the moment you get put on the Magnitsky List, you get put on the OFAC Sanctions Listwhich is a Treasury sanctions list. No bank in the world wants to be in violation of Treasury actions. And therefore, any bank, even if it is in South Korea or Dubai, if they see somebody on the Treasury sanctions list, [they] will close their account that day. And as a result, you basically become a financial pariah, and so its a real consequence.
..............SNIP"
The Polack MSgt
(13,191 posts)Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)talking about (as many DUers have said) - too many bells and whistles are distracting from his dramatic, searing testimony...PLUS, he lays out the whole Magnitsky issue in a way even a dullard like myself can grasp -
His entire testimony from Wednesday is here in the Atlantic, as well:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/bill-browders-testimony-to-the-senate-judiciary-committee/534864/
applegrove
(118,759 posts)Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)current shitstorm of "current events!! - but Mr. Browder's words literally changed my life...or my heart and brain, anyway. He's a singularly great man who has been through holy hell for years now in a relentless pursuit of justice.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)This is probably all we need to understand about why Vlad and AnusMouthTrump are so buddy-buddy!
Leghorn, you are not a dullard!
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)sheshe2
(83,859 posts)Trump just delivered the most chilling speech of his presidency
The president of the United States is explicitly encouraging police violence.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/28/16059486/trump-speech-police-hand
Jeff Sessions Removes Restrictions on Controversial Police Seizures
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jeff-sessions-removes-restrictions-controversial-police-seizures-n784476
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)despise Trump even more, but he continues to disgust and mortify me in new and horrific ways. He and his bloodthirsty base care nothing for justice. They just want to exert force and punish someone, even if it turns out to be someone innocent.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)Browder said in an interview that he has feared for his life.
News: Trump has just now signed the Sanctions Bill. Putin is going to be furious! And...Putin gets even, so TRump will not be safe after he leaves office, even with a SS detail or, as we hope, in prison. Not sure that dumbass TRump understand this.
Correction: Richard Engel said live on msnbc that Trump signed the Sanctions Bill. BUT the AP is reporting that Trump INTENDS to sign the bill. Big difference.
AP tweeted:
BREAKING: White House says Trump intends to sign bill that imposes new sanctions on Russia and bars him from easing the penalties.
9:28 PM · Jul 28, 2017
SalviaBlue
(2,917 posts)Recommend
spanone
(135,861 posts)MiddleClass
(888 posts)Even people not interested could read this and understand the whole Trump Putin dynamic.
Without even trying
byronius
(7,400 posts)Prison, preferably. Perhaps the same prison Magnitsky died in.
With Donald next door.
ouija
(398 posts)I can't believe this man is still alive?
tclambert
(11,087 posts)and the Magnitsky Act. Don, Jr. may have been too dim to realize it, but now we know what quid Putin wanted for his quo.
lastlib
(23,271 posts)You hit it square on the head, pardner!
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)simple-like.
(well - according to me, anyway!!)
annabanana
(52,791 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)....have become real.
Need Super Heroes too.
Jim Dandy
(358 posts)kick
lastlib
(23,271 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Get this to the Greatest Page....
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)(Mr. Browder tells - in chilling, profoundly sad detail - the origins of the Magnitsky Act......Putin reacts
Putin was furious. Looking for ways to retaliate against American interests, he settled on the most sadistic and evil option of all: banning the adoption of Russian orphans by American families.
This was particularly heinous because of the effect it had on the orphans. Russia did not allow the adoption of healthy children, just sick ones. In spite of this, American families came with big hearts and open arms, taking in children with HIV, Down syndrome, Spina Bifida and other serious ailments. They brought them to America, nursed them, cared for them and loved them. Since the Russian orphanage system did not have the resources to look after these children, many of those unlucky enough to remain in Russia would die before their 18th birthday. In practical terms, this meant that Vladimir Putin sentenced his own, most vulnerable and sick Russian orphans to death in order to protect corrupt officials in his regime.
Why did Vladimir Putin take such a drastic and malicious step?
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)Important stuff I'd missed. Thanks for posting.
yodermon
(6,143 posts)In addition to voting against sanctions.
Either one by itself might be ok. Both of these plus Tad Devine... makes me nervous.
(Strong Bernie supporter here, check my posts.)
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,624 posts)A friend of Putin's said America deserves whatever it gets for tying to be the police of the world and we have no right. I wanted to smack him since he has the same look and characteristics as Putin.