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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSusan Del Percio: $250,000 is a fire fighter or Police Officer in NY working overtime WHAT!!!!!!
Susan your fine as hell BUT your out of touch there is no Police Officer or Fire fighter in NY yet alone in this country making $250,000 a year in overtime maybe $100,000 even that's a stretch these days .Anyone see her on Eds show make this stupid statement. JESUS!!!! these republicans don't have a clue
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)She said. What a goofball. I'm sure those firefighters and cops and teachers making $250,000 a year don't know about it.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)Eddie Haskell
(1,628 posts)Had my wife been paid for it, she might have made $250,000.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)...what did she say...$350 in taxes?
Those Republican supporters must go through some training to learn to talk over everyone else on the panel. They are beyond disgusting.
If you're going to argue the point, better learn the facts, Susan. How disgusting.
slor
(5,504 posts)and hope Ed follows up on it, and I agree, she is "fine".
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Peregrine Took
(7,415 posts)malaise
(269,061 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I do find it completely disgusting that most of the wealthiest in our country do nothing to contribute to society. They make money by destroying families.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)I think the public is getting a deal!
Initech
(100,081 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)And I'm betting she makes well over 250,000 as CEO and owner of this company http://susandelpercio.com/about-us/
struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)I make more than a two year NY cop being a retired Correction Officer in NJ $53,000 a year
former9thward
(32,026 posts)http://articles.boston.com/2012-02-10/metro/31042525_1_police-overtime-police-officers-payroll-records
That is just one city.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)former9thward
(32,026 posts)It is why cities are cutting services all over because this bs is allowed to continue.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Is there some reason to think he didn't work those hours? If so, I missed that in the article.
Overtime is paid by the employing town or county, road details are paid by whatever town the detail is in ( not always the same)
I'm saving my anger for the politicians and big corporations who are truly robbing us blind while contributing little or nothing to society.
former9thward
(32,026 posts)Physically/mentally could not be doing it. Total mismanagement or fraud is occurring. Politicians are robbing us blind when they allow this to continue.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)That is maybe 2 extra shifts a week of overtime and maybe 2 or 3 road details a week.
former9thward
(32,026 posts)But I think you are part of the problem not the solution.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Median salary: 55, 387 - about 26 dollars per hour.
16 hours a week overtime at time and a half (39 ph) : 32,448 - Median rate, not including holiday or Sundays.
16 hours a week detail at the minimum pay (36.30) : 30, 201
If you are looking at someone on the higher side of the pay scale (such as the officer listed in the article) the numbers could definitely go there.
former9thward
(32,026 posts)Do that math that gets to 260k a year.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)The one in the article is a lieutenant. Not only would his pay be higher but if he has college degrees that would also put his salary higher.
His salary is 104,339: 50.16 cents an hour
Quinn pay ( education bonus): $14,615
Overtime: 39,028 at time and a half that would be 10 hours a week
Other: 13,582
Details: 88,405 @46 per hour - 36 paid hours per week average
Officers are allowed to work up to 90 hours per week.
former9thward
(32,026 posts)And to think you think someone can work 90 hours a week all year and be effective. That is beyond ridiculous. The police chief should be fired for either fraud or mismanagement. There is mismanagement if he is having officers work 90 hours a week for 52 weeks -- not even any vacation time! And you defend that. Classic.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Also details are paid by a block of hours, not necessarily the hours worked. The minimum is 4 hours paid.
Yes, I defend public employees who work long hours at a difficult and dangerous job. I save my venom for the 1% who love nothing more then seeing people get angry at union jobs with good pay and benefits.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Oh the horror!!!!!
former9thward
(32,026 posts)Across the country who knows. I was responding to the OP who claimed it was not possible. Eight over 230K How many over 200K? Over 150K? You may think financial mismanagement and fraud is no big thing. It leads to cuts in services elsewhere but you don't care about that. Are you one of those engaging in this financial mismanagement? It sounds like it.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)You are f**king HILARIOUS!!!!!!
Did you actually just say .... "Are you one of those engaging in this financial mismanagement? It sounds like it."
Apparently you think Paying Cops leads to cuts in other services ... next you'll be tell me that paying Teachers cuts into other services. Or paying Fire fighters cuts into other services.
BW .... I currently work in the private sector, and I do very well ... and unlike some, I do not hold a grudge against my brothers and sisters who work in the public sector.
Are YOU engaging in an effort to pit the private sector employee against the public sector employee .... It sounds like it!!
former9thward
(32,026 posts)Since you have no problem with that should they all be paid 260k? If not why not? What is the limit? 500k? Should we pay all public employees a million a year? What is the limit if any? If there is a limit, why?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And ... if you want to LIMIT salaries, you might want to start with the CEOs.
They are the only folks who went through the Great Bush Recession without losing a DIME!!!!
But hey ... let's screw teachers, cops and firefighters!!!!
former9thward
(32,026 posts)Not surprising. The CEO of the police department is the police chief. He is limited. To far less than 200K and above. The CEO of Boston is the Mayor. He is also limited to far less than these officers. Would 2 million a year for every public employee be ok as a limit? Or never any limit of any sort?
Should federal employees be limited by President Obama's salary. Or are there employees who deserve more than Obama?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Your question is nonsensical.
You seem very concerned that a handful of cops make over 200k.
As if THAT is the core issue we face.
My question back to you ... should a CEO make more than Obama?
Well?
former9thward
(32,026 posts)1) I think CEOs, athletes and entertainers are all over paid. I would have no problem with limits on all of them. I think the president is very underpaid. I don't like that they go around making speeches for groups for huge amounts after they leave office. I think they should be paid in the area of five million a year for life with no other compensation allowed.
I would have no problem with a $5,000,000 a year limit on CEOs, entertainers and athletes.
Now I answered your question but I doubt you will answer any of mine.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)I thought that something must have short-circuited in my brain and that she could not have possibly said something so outrageous.
rational_democrat
(18 posts)Every city and state is different... Cops can easily make 100k+ in wealthy suburbs with around 60-80 hours a week
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Doing ANYTHING 60-80 hours a week, particularly police work, does not equate with EASILY.
A CEO making over 5M while flying on a private jet for 60-80 hours a week ... now the word EASILY applies.
Just saying.
rational_democrat
(18 posts)We are talking about compensation.... A marine private in Afghanistan works more than 80 hours a week but makes far far less. Is the marines job harder and more demanding than a police officers? Compensation would say otherwise
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Both the COP and the MARINE, deserve high compensation.
Do you know who does not ... the corporate CEO. The corporate CEO has his lunch in a very expensive and exclusive restaurant. He counts the lunch as part of his business day.
The COP eats his lunch in a squad car, and the marine often eats his lunch from a plastic pouch. Both of them could get killed during lunch. Not so much an issue for that CEO.
But hey, let's nickle and dime the COP and the Marine. GOP seems to be ok with that.
Mosby
(16,319 posts)They should be exempt from OT.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)- because if anyone deserves to be rewarded for their work it's Firefighters and Teachers.
The work they do makes them a hella more deserving than some asshole CEO.