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mcar

(42,334 posts)
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:43 PM Jul 2017

Pierce: The Price of John McCain's Republican Loyalty

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a56570/mccain-healthcare-speech/

It was an ugly day in the United States Senate on Tuesday, as ugly a day as has been seen in that chamber since the death of Strom Thurmond, who used to make a day ugly simply by showing up. The Senate took up the Motion To Proceed on whatever the hell hash Mitch McConnell wants to make out of the American healthcare system. (The decision now seems to be between whether we kick 30 million, 22 million, or 18 million of our fellow citizens to the curb.) There was a loud protest in the Senate gallery, and the Capitol police, who were everywhere, went out of their way to prevent any media coverage of the ensuing arrests. (In this, they were helped immeasurably by a bunch of little omadhauns from the office of the Senate sergeant-at-arms, one of whom was so insufferable that he was even money to get thrown out a window.) That was really ugly...

But the ugliest thing to witness on a very ugly day in the United States Senate was what John McCain did to what was left of his legacy as a national figure. He flew all the way across the country, leaving his high-end government healthcare behind in Arizona, in order to cast the deciding vote to allow debate on whatever ghastly critter emerges from what has been an utterly undemocratic process. He flew all the way across the country in order to facilitate the process of denying to millions of Americans the kind of medical treatment that is keeping him alive, and to do so at the behest of a president* who mocked McCain's undeniable military heroism...

For longtime McCain watchers, and I count myself as one of them, this is something of a pattern. In 2000, George W. Bush's campaign slandered him and his young daughter, and radical fundamentalist Christians joined in so eagerly that McCain delivered the best speech of his career, calling those people "agents of intolerance." By 2006, he was on Meet The Press, which ultimately always was the constituency he cared most about, saying that the late Jerry Falwell was no longer an agent of intolerance. He was hugging Bush, and he was speaking at Liberty University. All of this seems to support the theory that the best way to win over John McCain is to treat him as badly as possible...

I wanted this to be different. In 2000, I thought McCain might be the person to lead his party back to marginal sanity at least. But he wanted to be president, so he became like all the rest of them. Yes, he scolded that person who said Barack Obama was a Muslim, but he chose as his running mate a nutty person who still may believe he is. Yes, he put his name on a campaign finance reform bill, but he also voted for every member of the Supreme Court who subsequently eviscerated that law, and others like it, and he's been absent from that fight ever since. There have been very few senators as loyal to the party line as John McCain. He has been a great lost opportunity to the country. Now, he will end his career as the face of whatever wretchedness is brought on the country by whatever the bill finally is.

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Pierce: The Price of John McCain's Republican Loyalty (Original Post) mcar Jul 2017 OP
But but but malaise Jul 2017 #1
Toobin on CNN wasn't impressed mcar Jul 2017 #6
The basic fact is this: Republicans and the biggest threat to the Republic. They are simply Fascist olegramps Jul 2017 #50
He was called a loser and a "dummy" by the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief Achilleaze Jul 2017 #2
He is as vile and sadistic as his tormentors dalton99a Jul 2017 #3
Ohio's Portman voted yes for the debate, and said he was a no vote for the bill. Nt Ninga Jul 2017 #4
Really? ladym55 Jul 2017 #25
McCain also a No vote on current bill SCantiGOP Jul 2017 #39
But he could have given the speech at a press conference and voted against opening debate. pnwmom Jul 2017 #40
I'm not defending him SCantiGOP Jul 2017 #44
in the end, zero honor Skittles Jul 2017 #5
No honor, no integrity, no ethics mcar Jul 2017 #7
Not too many chances left for his redemption. If one arises, oasis Jul 2017 #8
The rethugs are truly corrupt. gademocrat7 Jul 2017 #9
That will be McCain's legacy mcar Jul 2017 #10
How? Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #11
Yes mcar Jul 2017 #34
Ah-Ha! The invocation of Strom Thurmond got my brain synapses firing! DemoTex Jul 2017 #12
Maybe McCain feared Trump would cut his health care left-of-center2012 Jul 2017 #13
The entire piece is worth reading. mountain grammy Jul 2017 #14
I agree ladym55 Jul 2017 #26
K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #15
Especially considering the beautiful worry-free health care of which he's just taken FULL advantage. calimary Jul 2017 #33
This is a man who voted against MLK day mcar Jul 2017 #36
I liked his use of "omadhauns" phonetic translation from the Gaelic "Amadns" ... Fools or Yahoos OnDoutside Jul 2017 #16
My dear father used that term regularly mcar Jul 2017 #37
He spoke against partisanship and then voted partisan. What a hypocrite. SharonAnn Jul 2017 #17
Hatred for Obama rainin Jul 2017 #18
Well said extvbroadcaster Jul 2017 #19
And with chemo/radiation, he may not be back adigal Jul 2017 #30
Welcome to DU, extvbroadcaster! calimary Jul 2017 #35
Hey Arizona! SCVDem Jul 2017 #20
It's all too sad. TomSlick Jul 2017 #21
It's... 2naSalit Jul 2017 #22
No self respect. Fuck him and I hope he rots in hell as he deserves! BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #23
McCain, you have done your dirty deed. Feel better? nt NCjack Jul 2017 #24
I'm sure he does. As Paul Ryan said, they are family. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #46
McCain as the child of an Admiral has always had healthcare. DK504 Jul 2017 #27
Exactly! world wide wally Jul 2017 #48
He may have killed millions. broadcaster90210 Jul 2017 #28
Thank God I am not alone in feeling McCain did an evil thing today adigal Jul 2017 #29
McCain's reputation as an independent voice is based on the same logic that calls guillaumeb Jul 2017 #31
Snarl. Knew he's do that. ChazInAz Jul 2017 #32
McCain was corrupt until he said he wasn't anymore. One of the worst. Now he is also a PIG. deminks Jul 2017 #38
you are insulting our porcine brethren and sistren! niyad Jul 2017 #42
funny how all the adulation of glenn never gets around to mentioning this. niyad Jul 2017 #43
I have never been able to stand him, and the one atom of possible redemption I held for niyad Jul 2017 #41
Excellent article. The LA Times wrote an article critical of McCain's actions, too. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #45
Never, ever, EVER count on McCain to do the right thing. world wide wally Jul 2017 #47
I agree mcar Jul 2017 #49

malaise

(269,054 posts)
1. But but but
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:46 PM
Jul 2017

M$Greedia is painting his return as something truly special.

McCain is a ReTHUG...PERIOD!

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
50. The basic fact is this: Republicans and the biggest threat to the Republic. They are simply Fascist
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 04:36 PM
Jul 2017

McCain, when he saw his wife in a wheelchair, headed for the nearest bar to pick up some bimbo bitch. He is nothing more than a third rate man at best, a loser that would have been kicked out of Annapolis except for the fact that his old man was an admiral. Yes, I despise the way that he was treated as a prisoner, but that doesn't give him a pass to deny millions of his fellow citizens health care while he receives the best the care that OUR money can provide. Fuck that bastard and every fucking Republican Fascist bastard. Perhaps, as some have suggested it time for pitchforks and torches. No violence, just a uncompromising show of resolve.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. He was called a loser and a "dummy" by the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:47 PM
Jul 2017

and now he comports himself like a submissive republican lemming. Sad.

I would never let a freaking Five-time republican Draft Dodger put me down for serving my country. Hell no.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
25. Really?
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:01 PM
Jul 2017

Where did you see that? I'd love it if he actually grew a pair and represented his state for once.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
39. McCain also a No vote on current bill
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 12:03 AM
Jul 2017

The article was written before McCain's speech. He regained a bit of his soul with what he said. He basically endorsed the Democrats preference: start over, bi-partisan committees and full debate.
And he urged the Congress to not be subservient to the Executive branch.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
40. But he could have given the speech at a press conference and voted against opening debate.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 02:04 PM
Jul 2017

Which would have ended everything.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
44. I'm not defending him
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 03:02 PM
Jul 2017

But relative to the rest of his party he rational and thoughtful. Being in your last term helps I guess.
And I was disgusted at all of the 'hope he dies soon' comments from supposed liberals.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
11. How?
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 06:53 PM
Jul 2017
There was a loud protest in the Senate gallery, and the Capitol police, who were everywhere, went out of their way to prevent any media coverage of the ensuing arrests. (In this, they were helped immeasurably by a bunch of little omadhauns from the office of the Senate sergeant-at-arms, one of whom was so insufferable that he was even money to get thrown out a window.) That was really ugly.

If this shit happened during Obama's time, Greenwald and Assange would still be howling about it...

DemoTex

(25,399 posts)
12. Ah-Ha! The invocation of Strom Thurmond got my brain synapses firing!
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 06:54 PM
Jul 2017

That's where über-racist Don-the-Con purloined his hair color!

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
26. I agree
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:02 PM
Jul 2017

It's one of Charlie's better pieces (which is saying something because he does such consistently good work).

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
15. K&R
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 07:04 PM
Jul 2017

I really can't believe McCain would stoop this low. You would think a dying man would have a change of heart and want to go out as a hero to the American people. But no, he would rather be seen as a hero to the greedy, miserable bastards in his party who couldn't give a flying fuck about him and will never give him a second thought once he is six-feet under.

calimary

(81,320 posts)
33. Especially considering the beautiful worry-free health care of which he's just taken FULL advantage.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:01 PM
Jul 2017

MAN. TRULY the IGMFU party. "I Got Mine, F-U."

Shame on him. And his surgical scars haven't even healed over all the way.

SHAME on him.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
36. This is a man who voted against MLK day
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:08 PM
Jul 2017

Gave us LA Palin. Embraced both Bush II and Drumpf despite the despicable attacks on him and his family.

He is a RWNJ. That is it.

extvbroadcaster

(343 posts)
19. Well said
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 07:31 PM
Jul 2017

My thoughts exactly. You have to wonder about rich people in general. If you are pay check to pay check, with kids at home, and your boss humiliates you in front of people - well, you might make the decision to take it. For the wife and kids, and because you know it is the right thing. But McCain, the rest of them? They are rich. And old. They don't have to take any crap. Unless the most important thing is power, and being close to it. That is all I can figure. McCain is a real disappointment. He could have looked at his life, his age, his cancer, and his money and said screw it - I'm voting against this because it is the right thing to do and it would shove a hot poker up Trumps ass. But no. He went along with it, and voted yes. Now he will go back to his great healthcare and let the chips fall where they will. If millions lose their healthcare, so what? He was a good GOP soldier. What a way to end up.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
30. And with chemo/radiation, he may not be back
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:40 PM
Jul 2017

At his age, with his health, the treatment is going to kick his butt.
But I am sure he will fly back to vote YES on Repeal only.

calimary

(81,320 posts)
35. Welcome to DU, extvbroadcaster!
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:06 PM
Jul 2017

Indeed. "Now he will go back to his great healthcare and let the chips fall where they will." They're not only the "IGMFU" Party ("I Got Mine, F-U&quot , they're the "Sucks to Be YOU" Party.

Damn. Shame on him. Shame on them all.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
20. Hey Arizona!
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 07:34 PM
Jul 2017

Do you have a sewage treatment plant or landfill which can use the McCain name?

He just treated us like shit so those choices are fitting.

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
21. It's all too sad.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 07:36 PM
Jul 2017

A legitimate military hero (despite what Trump said) - years of public service (often on the wrong side of issues but public service nonetheless) - a brave return to his job facing a terrible diagnosis. Now, he will be remembered for helping throw tens of thousands out of the health care system.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
46. I'm sure he does. As Paul Ryan said, they are family.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 03:28 PM
Jul 2017

He flew back from the grave, welcomed into the busom of his family. One of them. No fights, no bad feelings. Everything is rosy on Capital Hill, that shining city on the hill that Reagan spoke of. The rich, white, usually older, rich men in the Boy's Club. They relish in their happiness as they shake hands and look into each other's eyes, comforted by the knowledge that everything's all right. Everything's staying the same as it was decades ago.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
27. McCain as the child of an Admiral has always had healthcare.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:10 PM
Jul 2017

As a student at Annapolis, he had healthcare, in the Navy he had healthcare. The only time in his LIFE he didn't not have outstanding healthcare was as a POW. Now as a man that has terminal cancer, he won't resign either, that will not overcome this terrible disease he will still deny other Americans any thing he has had handed to him his entire life.

He is not, nor has he ever been good enough for the station in his life. He and his pals in the Congress need their healthcare taken away and see how fast they pull together single payer healthcare.

Fuck all of them.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
29. Thank God I am not alone in feeling McCain did an evil thing today
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:38 PM
Jul 2017

From now on he will be John Beelzebub McCain to me.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
31. McCain's reputation as an independent voice is based on the same logic that calls
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:41 PM
Jul 2017

Donald Trump a successful businessman.

ChazInAz

(2,569 posts)
32. Snarl. Knew he's do that.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:51 PM
Jul 2017

He never passes up an opportunity to fail to do the right thing.
No sympathy for you, Johnny-Mack.

niyad

(113,344 posts)
41. I have never been able to stand him, and the one atom of possible redemption I held for
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 02:07 PM
Jul 2017

him is now gone. may he, and all of them, receive everything they deserve.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
45. Excellent article. The LA Times wrote an article critical of McCain's actions, too.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 03:17 PM
Jul 2017

This has been noticed across the country.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
47. Never, ever, EVER count on McCain to do the right thing.
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 04:21 PM
Jul 2017

His image is as phony as that orange anus mouth character.

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