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bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:06 PM Jul 2017

I do not want to be Hari Seldon. A rant and a prayer for us.

Hari Seldon is the fictional character from the Foundation trilogy. Isaac Asimov, author of Foundation, made Seldon a scientist who created a new discipline called psychohistory. This is an algorithmic science that allows Seldon to predict the future. Seldon predicts the fall of the "galactic empire" and through his use of psychohistory, seeks to shorten the period of chaos between the establishment of a new form of government and when the empire collapses.

If you look at how things are going in the Republic, collapse seems possible or probable. The systemic destruction of institutions and political norms by 45 and his toady GOP is the final manifestation of a disease that began to infect the country in the 1980s. These institutions and norms, once shattered, are extremely difficult to repair. Some of the obvious signs that the disease
has spread
include
1)the constitutional protection of dark money. The equation that free speech is money has alienated the public from the process. Singular control over media markets by the Murdoch clan and the death of the fairness doctrine are also similar disease states
2) the systemic dumbing down of public education by private enterprise assaults such as crippling student debt and Devos is the obvious end stage. Intelligence and rational decision based thinking(such as an awareness of secondary consequences of actions) is considered unamerican.
The kid Rockification of the political process.
3) cheating or gaming the election process. The GOP has "won" two major elections by the electoral college, a process remote in time for over a century before its rapid appearance in the 2 recent elections. The gerrymandered congress has unaccountable elections. The widespread use of computer based gerrymandering so that minority voters and city based voters are diluted.
Voter ID and voter purgers and election " commissions" designed to further disenfranchise voters.
4) the infection of right wing rhetoric into all civil areas of life, the idea that Jesus was a member of the GOP and the Boy Scouts! (recently).
5) the coming and present environmental crisis that is climate change. Our governments inability to plan for, acknowledge and confront the growing threat that is obvious to the entire scientific community.
6) a shattered alliance structure, NATO, and a flight from the European democracies that will cause a vacuum to be filled by Russia and/orChina(see today's report on Russia supplying the Taliban with weapons that will be used to kill the troops and young girls who happen to want an education). Americans have forgotten that competition exists among nations and that our failure to have allies and support things such as mutual science funding have secondary consequences.
7) the demonization of immigrants and the eventual loss of a pool of talent to other countries and the hardening of the American soul (see GOP deathcare bills).


I know I have missed a lot but that just confirms my belief that structural rot is in the foundation of the country. So ,as a party,we must win 2018 to have some sort of urgent check on this widespread rot or le deluge.
This will require the best of our leadership to put forth a coherent plan that talks about these issues. It also requires us to fight for every vote and in every state. We will be fighting in gerrymandered seats with all the money of the Kochs and Mercedes and Aldesons against us, but if we lose this battle we will need to be Hari Seldon and plan to shorten the chaos of our collapse.



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I do not want to be Hari Seldon. A rant and a prayer for us. (Original Post) bronxiteforever Jul 2017 OP
I agree wholeheartedly. The_jackalope Jul 2017 #1
It's not just that, it's just the complete abandonment Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #2
I agree. It's impossible to document the entirety of this cluster. bronxiteforever Jul 2017 #3
My hands shake when I think about the things they said Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #4

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
1. I agree wholeheartedly.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:18 PM
Jul 2017

Social collapse of some form is inevitable. What happens then is unknowable. But if it's true that a fish rots from the head, I shudder at the implications for global civilization.

On edit: I've held this view since 2004. Nothing I've seen since then has caused me to change my mind.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
2. It's not just that, it's just the complete abandonment
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:16 PM
Jul 2017

of decorum, order and principles... It's seeing the GOP get all chummy with Moscow... It's seeing Jason Chaffetz swear up and down he was starting his official Hillary investigations the first Monday after she was sworn in, and then punting on Trump... It's seeing Trump get away with the EXACT same shit the GOP and useful idiots on the left swore Hillary was going to do if she won, and nobody giving a shit... It's knowing that now that they have been successful, there's no way the Russians don't fuck with all our elections from now until eternity...

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
3. I agree. It's impossible to document the entirety of this cluster.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:42 PM
Jul 2017

Also, I never want to hear any outrage bullcrap from the GOP again. They have, as you have put it so well, abandoned decorum order and principles to the point that the country is rapidly becoming unrecognizable from a third world dictatorship.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
4. My hands shake when I think about the things they said
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:50 PM
Jul 2017

about Michelle Obama (who had to be 100% flawless EVERY day for eight years) and Chelsea Clinton since childhood only to be silent about this classless clan of usurpers...

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