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Holy crap, the comments on the Boy Scouts of America Facebook page are 🔥🔥🔥 (Original Post) kpete Jul 2017 OP
Excellent! The creature that gave the speech to them should be held accountable by BSA RKP5637 Jul 2017 #1
Thank God the parents are speaking out - the BSA cannot ignore this FakeNoose Jul 2017 #26
Or, this is what the BSA wanted!? n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #49
One hopes not GeoWilliam750 Jul 2017 #66
It's the last thing they wanted. Gore1FL Jul 2017 #79
When I was in scouting way back I never heard anything politically or religiously based. It was RKP5637 Jul 2017 #84
I also put the blame on any adults who were cheering him and booing Clinton and Obama. phylny Jul 2017 #67
It's not like the BSA didn't know what they were getting. Invite a reprobate, get a reprobate. TheBlackAdder Jul 2017 #46
Exactly! Many of TPTB in the BSA IMO knew exactly what they were getting! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #50
It's tradition for the President to speak. tecelote Jul 2017 #62
And the creature is named: Koch, repuglicans, slime erronis Jul 2017 #72
Yep!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #74
One comment says Trump posted a tweet after his speech and then deleted it. tblue37 Jul 2017 #2
Not sure this is it but it's the only post I found: ATL Ebony Jul 2017 #30
This web site archives all of his tweets -- even deleted ones: Raine1967 Jul 2017 #41
I've still not seen.......... MyOwnPeace Jul 2017 #3
+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Jul 2017 #5
That is what disturbs me iamateacher Jul 2017 #57
I wonder how many thousands of scout troops in the USA luvtheGWN Jul 2017 #4
Amen!! Duppers Jul 2017 #7
Hitler Youth comes to mind. maddiemom Jul 2017 #19
Exactly! nt avebury Jul 2017 #53
Putin has successfully mixed religion with authoritarian gov. lunasun Jul 2017 #39
One Of The Tweets Eluded To A Tweet Trump Sent Out About His Appearance & Speech.... global1 Jul 2017 #6
That's what I was wondering as well NewJeffCT Jul 2017 #20
A good place to leave comments The Blue Flower Jul 2017 #8
Here's the address for the BSA perdita9 Jul 2017 #9
Absolutely true! The man is poison personified, with every word, action being toxic. Akamai Jul 2017 #12
What's President Shitstain going to do, bomb Irving, TX? hatrack Jul 2017 #15
I believe public funding plays a role in BSA activities, and access to the public lands is Akamai Jul 2017 #18
So what? Be quiet and smile about this or the all powerful trump will rumble?? lunasun Jul 2017 #40
Hopefully they will criticize him. Of course perhaps Scouts could be in the anti-trump ads in the Akamai Jul 2017 #45
Trump and his party are toxic to every good thing left in this country workinclasszero Jul 2017 #24
Sadly true perdita9 Jul 2017 #43
Any response from BS of A ? Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #10
Not enough but here's one ATL Ebony Jul 2017 #36
They had a withering lame non-response response BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #37
Vomit. That's not an engaged response, it's just redundant rule-quoting. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #76
I sure don't blame the kids -- they were controlled by an evil sociopath. Also, it would be almost Akamai Jul 2017 #11
Yeah, I'm not going to be too hard on the scouts, either gratuitous Jul 2017 #22
Some one on Daily Kos posted a YouTube video of scouts booing Obama's speech in 2010 nt maryellen99 Jul 2017 #25
Yep and some are now old enough to vote Trump . No one forced the kids this week to boo and it lunasun Jul 2017 #42
Yep and scary because now with trump in office,it's ok to be a bully and sexual harasser nt maryellen99 Jul 2017 #44
12-17 year olds are not as dumb as trump supporters. pangaia Jul 2017 #35
Put 45,000 of them in a group setting gratuitous Jul 2017 #48
Sounded like a lot of them did. calimary Jul 2017 #83
Looks like it's running about 100-1 against Circus Peanut-In-Chief and the BSA . . . hatrack Jul 2017 #13
Once an Eagle Scout - always an Eagle Scout... Almost. Blue Idaho Jul 2017 #14
Glad to see so many negative resposes from thuse associated with the scouts- VaBchTgerLily Jul 2017 #16
A woman called Joe Madison this morning (5-year Scout Master) BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #17
I heard that too. mountain grammy Jul 2017 #28
Can't remember exactly BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #32
Just added a few of my own to their page. Ligyron Jul 2017 #21
I know a texas based scout master bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #23
Just tried calling the BSA headquarters... number is busy... neeksgeek Jul 2017 #27
K&R. dchill Jul 2017 #29
I live in southern West Virginia, and was appalled Homer Wells Jul 2017 #31
Republicans have ruined the Boy Scouts of America. Thanks a fucking lot you degenerates. Sunlei Jul 2017 #33
I was a Boy Scout. MarvinGardens Jul 2017 #34
FOR CONTRAST HERE IS PRES OBAMA addressing the last Jamboree- (pres is ALWAYS invited to speak) Sunlei Jul 2017 #38
Exactly what one would expect GeoWilliam750 Jul 2017 #65
still some man in the audience booed because Obama had commitments & sent a video. a GOOD video. Sunlei Jul 2017 #71
Funny thing... Gore1FL Jul 2017 #82
2001 National Jmboree attendee, 2003 Eagle Scout bluevoter4life Jul 2017 #47
Kick dalton99a Jul 2017 #51
Let see if these boy scouts are cheering Twittler's privatizing muntrv Jul 2017 #52
You ought to check out their twitter account. nt avebury Jul 2017 #54
To the leaders of the BSA you made your bed, now sleep in it, I am now going to send turbinetree Jul 2017 #55
"You let a sexual predator speak..." The BSA fought tooth and nail for years to conceal their own hi keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #68
Remarkable is it not turbinetree Jul 2017 #80
new BSA Trump Youth merit badges alterfurz Jul 2017 #56
Don't forget this one, very popular with Trumpscouts: rgbecker Jul 2017 #58
Need to elect republicans? keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #69
A lot of message boards out there are all over this Warpy Jul 2017 #59
The half assed statement MontanaMama Jul 2017 #60
Excellent. Thank you Scouting families Hekate Jul 2017 #61
BSA is reminding us of problems in the catholic church... lefthandedskyhook Jul 2017 #63
i only know one bora13 Jul 2017 #64
As a Scout in my youth, Trump would need to read between the lines of my salute... Thor_MN Jul 2017 #70
Fuck the Boy Scouts, A.K.A. the new Hitler Youth Still In Wisconsin Jul 2017 #73
At least there's an encouraging pushback. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #75
Fact is, the BSA are not a very diverse/accepting group. Perfect for Trump. Hoyt Jul 2017 #77
Why in the world would any President want to speak to a BSA Jamboree? They're way napi21 Jul 2017 #78
A good chunk are 15-17. They'll vote for their first times in 2018 or 2020. nt Gore1FL Jul 2017 #81
And yet BSA remains silent save for that lame "we're a non-partisan organization" statement catbyte Jul 2017 #85

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
1. Excellent! The creature that gave the speech to them should be held accountable by BSA
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:56 AM
Jul 2017

denouncing his creepy speech.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
26. Thank God the parents are speaking out - the BSA cannot ignore this
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:38 AM
Jul 2017

Trump has no right to turn the BSA Jamboree into a Trump Rally. It's completely unacceptable and the parents have a right to be livid about this. These innocent kids had no concept of what they were cheering for, and most of these boys were there without their parents to explain what was going on.

Trump can't get a loving adoring audience anymore so he has to use these innocent kids. It's completely outrageous that the BSA allowed it to happen.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
79. It's the last thing they wanted.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:08 PM
Jul 2017

The BSA is full of leaders across the political spectrum (I was one from 2004--2011). They jumped head-first into politics in the late 1990s with a homophobic stance compelled by the LDS. The membership suffered (at least in comparison to the GSA--which seems like a good benchmark).

They finally broke ties with the LDS and some of the bad policy. As things were turning around, Trump took a giant shit on the organization.

They did not ask for this. They (ironically) were not prepared for this. They have no idea how to make this right. So far they have come up with mealy-mouthed excuses in an attempt to deflect the issue.

If they don't come up with a meaningful way to separate themselves and the scouting values from Trump and his horrific display an organization that has done a lot of good is going to suffer terribly.

Lord Robert Baden-Powell is rolling in his grave.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
84. When I was in scouting way back I never heard anything politically or religiously based. It was
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 08:45 AM
Jul 2017

all about scouting, learning things and working with people as a team. I was really stunned by what Trump said and then the endless applause for his debasing statements.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
67. I also put the blame on any adults who were cheering him and booing Clinton and Obama.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:01 PM
Jul 2017

Way to set a good example, guys.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
62. It's tradition for the President to speak.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 05:31 PM
Jul 2017

They didn't invite Donald Trump. They invited the President of the United States.

Up until now, they have all left politics out of their speech.

We're in new territory now.

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
2. One comment says Trump posted a tweet after his speech and then deleted it.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 09:59 AM
Jul 2017

Does anyone know what Trump tweeted and then deleted about his speech there?

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
30. Not sure this is it but it's the only post I found:
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:44 AM
Jul 2017

"Jambo: Remember your duty. Honor your history. Take care of the people God puts into your life - and LOVE & CHERISH your country!"

Seems appropriate if he deleted it since it goes against the grain of who he really is or what he actually does.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
41. This web site archives all of his tweets -- even deleted ones:
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jul 2017
https://factba.se/topic/deleted-tweets

It doesn't appear that he tweeted and deleted after the speech.

MyOwnPeace

(16,928 posts)
3. I've still not seen..........
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:11 AM
Jul 2017

much comment about the "leaders" who were present that allowed this poor behavior on the part of the "youth squad" to continue.
Yes, kids are young and impressionable, but their "leaders" should have taken a responsible position and corrected an ugly scene.

iamateacher

(1,089 posts)
57. That is what disturbs me
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:39 PM
Jul 2017

My husband and I were leaders. Someone should have addressed those boys right after the speech and told them booing was inappropriate. And today made them write essays...

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
4. I wonder how many thousands of scout troops in the USA
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:12 AM
Jul 2017

are sponsored by rightwing evangelical churches? I'm guessing a lot, and perhaps that accounts, in large part, for the cult-like behaviour of the scouts in attendance at the Jamboree. Scary stuff.

global1

(25,253 posts)
6. One Of The Tweets Eluded To A Tweet Trump Sent Out About His Appearance & Speech....
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:19 AM
Jul 2017

it said it was tweet and then was pulled back. Does anyone have a copy of that tweet? What did Trump tweet?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
20. That's what I was wondering as well
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:18 AM
Jul 2017

Was just about to post that - the Kimberly Hatton Reid comment (second one)

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
8. A good place to leave comments
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:28 AM
Jul 2017

The outrage is clear. The leadership had better distance itself right away.

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
9. Here's the address for the BSA
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:30 AM
Jul 2017

I'm the mother of an Eagle Scout and I'm mailing my letter today. I don't know what's going to happen the next time we do a car wash fundraiser. People also stop by just because it's the Boy Scouts and they have such a tremendous reputation for integrity. Trump has poisoned the BSA the same way he poisons everything he touches


Michael Surbaugh
Boy Scout of America
P.O. Box 152079
Irving, TX 75015-2079

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
12. Absolutely true! The man is poison personified, with every word, action being toxic.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:43 AM
Jul 2017

Sorry for your situation -- our son earned his Eagle badge and we have nothing but good things to say about the treatment he received.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
15. What's President Shitstain going to do, bomb Irving, TX?
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:47 AM
Jul 2017

BSA is a private organization, so I don't think Trump can do anything worse to them than they already let happen yesterday.

On edit - Sorry, Akamai, meant to respond to your next post below!

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
18. I believe public funding plays a role in BSA activities, and access to the public lands is
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:59 AM
Jul 2017

also important. I would imagine that many of the good work projects the scouts do can be curtailed by trump if he gets angry.

He can sure motivate a lot of people to really hate the scouts.

And I am sure that trump and bannon can think of many evil ways to hurt the scouts.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
40. So what? Be quiet and smile about this or the all powerful trump will rumble??
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:05 PM
Jul 2017

Nah no f'n way
The Good Germans already played that

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
45. Hopefully they will criticize him. Of course perhaps Scouts could be in the anti-trump ads in the
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:27 PM
Jul 2017

future.

He has put them in a very difficult position, and probably many of their supporters voted for trump.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
37. They had a withering lame non-response response
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:56 AM
Jul 2017

NBC News' twitter feed posted it




TEXT
NBC News?Verified account @NBCNews

JUST IN: Boy Scouts release statement after backlash to President Trump's speech at national jamboree

8:46 AM - 25 Jul 2017

More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/07/25/after-trumps-partisan-speech-boy-scouts-of-america-reiterates-that-it-is-wholly-non-partisan/

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
76. Vomit. That's not an engaged response, it's just redundant rule-quoting.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:21 PM
Jul 2017

I hate that. Cowardly action of an authoritarian mind-set. It completely allows the most outrageous of actions to stand unchallenged, while allowing the spokesperson/organization to avoid the discomfort of walking the talk.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
11. I sure don't blame the kids -- they were controlled by an evil sociopath. Also, it would be almost
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:41 AM
Jul 2017

impossible for the BSA leaders there to have stood up to trump. He has the microphone, the stage, etc.

But I sure hope that BSA criticizes trump, although that might be politically dangerous for them to do.

My view -- trump has created a terrible, terrible mess and he has been in office for just over six months

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. Yeah, I'm not going to be too hard on the scouts, either
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:21 AM
Jul 2017

These are just kids, after all, and 11-17 year olds are quite possibly the dumbest creatures on the planet. But the BSA leadership knew this dog wasn't house-broken, and should have insisted on a transcript of the prepared remarks ahead of time.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
42. Yep and some are now old enough to vote Trump . No one forced the kids this week to boo and it
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:10 PM
Jul 2017

was I assume, not practiced. Spontaneous and straight out of thier mouths

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
48. Put 45,000 of them in a group setting
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jul 2017

And a bunch of them are going to follow the herd in doing something stupid. It's the BSA leadership that should have insisted on getting the text of the president's remarks ahead of time, and insisting that he stick with the script or his mic would be cut off. How inappropriate is it to have the president hinting around about a hookers-and-blow party on some wealthy guy's yacht? Someone for BSA should have been monitoring the president's remarks and ready to intervene.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
13. Looks like it's running about 100-1 against Circus Peanut-In-Chief and the BSA . . .
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:45 AM
Jul 2017

That's after about ten minutes on the site reading through the comments.

Per multiple posters, BSA was pulling comments, but to no avail, with plenty of commenters urging everyone to adopt full screen-capture mode.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
14. Once an Eagle Scout - always an Eagle Scout... Almost.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:47 AM
Jul 2017

I earned my Eagle rank in 1969 and have often talked to folks about the positive aspects of Scouting. Well - all that ended yesterday. Scouts and their leaders in years past would have never allowed the national jamboree to turn into a Hitler Youth rally. Yes, Trump played the buffoon - again - but Scouts should know how to act when faced with hateful speech. It was SHAMEFUL!

I told the Scouting organization exactly that in a letter I wrote and I enclosed my Eagle Scout badge.

I'm done with them.

VaBchTgerLily

(231 posts)
16. Glad to see so many negative resposes from thuse associated with the scouts-
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:53 AM
Jul 2017

If they are waiting for an apology I think they will have a long wait because that BIG ASS cant ever admit he is wrong!

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
17. A woman called Joe Madison this morning (5-year Scout Master)
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:55 AM
Jul 2017

and she was livid and just unloaded. She is active in her local region and had indicated long time involvement in the organization (I think in various capacities over the past 15 years), and said that she has been calling the national HQ in Dallas almost non-stop.

I think you'll still have that hard core "30%" Drumpf idiot group out there who are probably cheering and chuckling... However I expect the vast majority of scout families are apolitical (and a good chunk are liberal) and are not political junkies like us on DU, but are realizing that this went way over the line, and are finally waking up and pushing back.

I come from a Girl Scout family (mother and sister were/are leaders) and I was one from Brownies to Seniors and I am glad to see that pushback.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
32. Can't remember exactly
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:47 AM
Jul 2017

but I think she said she was involved with the Shenandoah Area Council. I was cheering at her call!

Ligyron

(7,633 posts)
21. Just added a few of my own to their page.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:20 AM
Jul 2017

Every day, this President does at least one thing to disqualify him from holding that sacred office.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
23. I know a texas based scout master
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:30 AM
Jul 2017

Doesn't surprise me a bit that this happened based upon what I know of him.

Girl scouts still get my cookie money but I gave up on the BSA years ago.

The organization is in need of an internal reevaluation.

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
27. Just tried calling the BSA headquarters... number is busy...
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:40 AM
Jul 2017

That's got to be a thankless job right now, answering the phones at BSA headquarters.

Homer Wells

(1,576 posts)
31. I live in southern West Virginia, and was appalled
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:44 AM
Jul 2017

At the local new station (WOWK Huntington) reporter virtually drooling
over the arrival of Air Force 1 landing at Beckley airport.

He breathlessly went through the landing, taxiing, even the opening of the door
of the plane, like it was the King of America arriving to bless his subjects.

Normally, I watch local news at 6:00 pm, but I changed the channel after about
five minutes. My God, these fools don't have a clue, nor do they no where
to buy one.

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
34. I was a Boy Scout.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:48 AM
Jul 2017

I achieved Life rank. It was a positive experience. My son is 2 yo. I looked forward to him being a Cub Scout and Boy Scout. Now I'm not so sure.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
38. FOR CONTRAST HERE IS PRES OBAMA addressing the last Jamboree- (pres is ALWAYS invited to speak)
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:00 PM
Jul 2017

President Obama Addresses 2010 National Scout Jamboree

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
82. Funny thing...
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:33 PM
Jul 2017

I went in 1981. President Reagan didn't show up. He didn't show up again in 1985. Funny that Trump didn't ask for him to be booed, too.

bluevoter4life

(787 posts)
47. 2001 National Jmboree attendee, 2003 Eagle Scout
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:43 PM
Jul 2017

Held various leadership positions at both the troop level and council level, at one point being the Venturing President of the South Florida Council. Started as a wolf, and stayed involved until 2007. Served on summer camp staff in 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007. Was a paid paraprofessional for the Gulf Ridge Council in Tampa for a smester jn college. There are no words I can use to describe how disgusted I am with BSA. I was looking to get involved again as recently as a few months ago. I was willing to look past the (former) gay ban. As an agnostic, I was even willing to look past the religious requirement, knowing full well if discovered, I could be asked to leave at any time. I was willing to do that because I devoted 15+ years of my life to the organization, and wanted to give back, I wanted to see the kids succeed. I wanted to make a difference in their life. If I could help even one kid in acheiving his (or her, for those in Venturing) goal, I could rest easy at night. No more. I am ashamed to acknowlede my youth activities. I refuse to become involved, i refuse to lend support, financial or otherwise, to such disgusting organizations. Until they undergo a fundamental change, I am through with them.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
52. Let see if these boy scouts are cheering Twittler's privatizing
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:53 PM
Jul 2017

public land. No more whitewater rafting at Grand Canyon for you boys!

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
55. To the leaders of the BSA you made your bed, now sleep in it, I am now going to send
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:19 PM
Jul 2017

back everything that I earned while as a scout, FUCK YOU

You let a sexual predator speak at the jamboree, and one of the badges that every scout must have is the one about obeying the law

you have just failed this requirement did you forget this f*cking merit badge and how your suppose to earn it, here let me remind you


https://www.slideshare.net/rockmarttroop23/law-merit-badge







keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
68. "You let a sexual predator speak..." The BSA fought tooth and nail for years to conceal their own hi
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 08:16 PM
Jul 2017

"You let a sexual predator speak..."

The BSA fought tooth and nail for years to conceal their own hierarchy's molestation of young boys.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
80. Remarkable is it not
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:11 PM
Jul 2017

think I will send by merit badges back, they are worthless......................they have no meaning or principles

alterfurz

(2,474 posts)
56. new BSA Trump Youth merit badges
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:26 PM
Jul 2017

"At this point I'm just grateful that Trump didn't address the Girl Scouts." -- Andy Borowitz

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
59. A lot of message boards out there are all over this
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:27 PM
Jul 2017

About the kindest comment was mine, that he obviously has no clue how to speak to children (which says volumes about his performance as a father) and a lot of parents, especially of the younger scouts, are going to have a lot of explaining to do when they get home.

A whole lot of people out there are talking about pulling their kids out of this organization. This is just the final straw on top of years of Mormon mismanagement and hostility toward anyone who isn't a straight Christian male. Overt hostility to the political majority in this country is not playing well, not even in Peoria.

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
60. The half assed statement
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 04:45 PM
Jul 2017

From the BSA is not enough. Worthless. I just called the BSA foundation and gave them what for.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
77. Fact is, the BSA are not a very diverse/accepting group. Perfect for Trump.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:33 PM
Jul 2017

Glad to see the tweets in OP, but I bet a lot of Scouts parents agree with Trump. Sad.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
78. Why in the world would any President want to speak to a BSA Jamboree? They're way
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:45 PM
Jul 2017

too young to be recruiting them for voters, and why would they ever be interested in listening to anything politics?

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