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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIdiot Rand Paul just told @jaketapper that "in all likelihood" Trump can pardon himself.
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Sopan Deb?Verified account @SopanDeb Jul 23
Rand Paul just told @jaketapper that "in all likelihood" Trump can pardon himself.
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Kay Vandenberg? @kay_vandenberg Jul 23
Rand Paul is a doctor not a constitutional lawyer
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Stephen McLain? @wolfmanjaks
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He is an EYE doctor about as far from a constitutional lawyer as it gets.
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Stephen McLain? @wolfmanjaks 19h19 hours ago
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And evidently not a very good eye doctor. And a worse senator!
Kenneth Gourlay? @GKEnviro 22h22 hours ago
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Yes but he has 20:20 hindsight. He looks at POTUS and sees a great big beHind.
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Stephen McLain? @wolfmanjaks 20h20 hours ago
Yet he keeps kissing that big behind every chance he gets
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Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)occupied by rightwing sycophants who wouldnt know the law if it fell out of the sky, landed on their faces, and wiggled.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)What a phony piecec of shit!
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)That's a perfect title for old Rand.
FM123
(10,053 posts)Said Robert Mueller.
(Ok, he didn't actually say that - but I bet he thought it)
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)pbmus
(12,422 posts)Doesn't know wtf he is talking about....never has, never will...anyone who votes for this guy is jerking himself off.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)And for the sake of accuracy, Paul did not endorse this, he just said he thinks he could do it. This would be a more political SCOTUS case than Bush v Gore, and I think they would likely side with the Executive.
Everything I know and have read about how the constitution deals with this issue is that it gives impeachment as a remedy, but gives the President wide powers concerning impeachment.
Let's keep in mind that facts, or opinions about what the facts are, should not be ideological. That is the province of FOX News.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)It says he can pardon offenses against the United States except in cases of impeachment. Nothing in those words say he can't pardon himself. It COULD have said except in cases of impeachment or in crimes committed by The President himself.
So it seems reasonable to view it as Paul does, it seems no idiots could see it that way.
That doesn't mean Paul thinks that is a good idea.
And Paul may be wrong based on general principles of law understood when the Constitution was written. But no one has shown any document from the time showing self pardons are not allowed.
What matters is that he be removed from office and once he loses the election in 2020 then we can be safe again.
I don't view Pence as much better so I don't see a criminal indictment as much of a solution.
inwiththenew
(972 posts)I don't think we can unequivocally say one way or the other because there really isn't a precedent for this that I'm aware of. I could be wrong though.
I believe the courts won't allow it but it seems like everything I thought I knew about what could and couldn't happen has been turned on its head.